Major deal signed to allow direct flights between Afghanistan and Bahrain

[randolph85]

just 2 days ago, this fool ghundal was cheering about the afghan government getting observer status in the sco, now he is against air routes LOL

[ghundal]

those treaties will help the future Afghan government. SCO and CSTO are the way forward for any developing nation. Your true colors are coming out. Didn't realize how nerve racked you got about the informative thread about the Taliban LOL

answer my post on the Taliban, or do you not have an answer except the same NA propaganda crap.

answer my last post here, stop running away. you made no argument, just threw accusation in anger about lies.

http://www.pashtunforums.com/political-talk-11/taliban-17202/index11.html

[randolph85]

nerve racked? u made an ass out of urself the entire thread, my sig is just one funny piece of that.

u are against karzai and the puppet government, and against corruption and this bahrain thing but for the karzai regime to be an observer in this economic block lol do u see how stupid u look?

[ghundal]

DID you answer my Taliban thread where you have been found WRONG on your claim that Taliban were against schooling for girls?? You were wrong on nearly everything else.

instead of resorting to this (Your so stupid), take your head out of Petraeuas asss, and understand that treaties and organization memberships can carry on with future governments. Its nothing new.

You try so hard to appear smart, but you just end up looking more stupid

Egypts treaty (treasonous as it is) with Israel still holds despite there being a huge change there. Egypt is still a part of UN and the joke Arab League. Your a waste of time. You have only made a fool out of yourself.

take your NA propaganda elsewhere OK

[ComradePashtun]

ghundala,

You take your Paki propaganda somewher else too, frankly speaking you are neither from Afghanistan and nor an Afghan. There are more than enough Afghan member here who can speak for themselves. Only an embicile would have a problem with Afghanistan making another leap in its aviation to establish direct flights with a country of great importance. There is a sizeable number of Afghans living in Bahrain and Qatar, and above all there is ever growing economic interrelationship between the region and Afghan business community with Qatar and the immediate region. Afghansitan has vibrant business class (despite everything Afghans have always had a businesses running even during Taliban) who are constant travellers, so the direct flight will be a big relief for them. Every one is neither corrupt nor are the corrupt who travels, we are talking about a country. Spee mo zaana joor karray aw ghapay.

[ComradePashtun]

Bark you imbeciles.

[BarakzaiAbdali]

Once I asked a person from Afghanistan who happened to be a member of Gulbuddin Hikmatyar party (Hizb-i-Islami-a wing of global Muslim Brotherhood) as what he thinks of the post-2001 developments in Afghanistan. He said, at least now a person in Jalalabad or for that matter any part of Afghanistan has a hope and plan for tommorrow compared to the uncertainty of pre-2001 situation where even the next moment of your life was un-predictable and your existence was not guaranteed (strong word). I could not but agree with him.

Had the Afghan leadership a magic wand or some omni-potent power to fix all the things at once, I am sure they would've accomplished that long ago. But looking the extremly difficult tasks/situation it faced post-2001 complicated by a number of actors and factors both internal and external (foreign powers and their priorities, political, tribal, ethnic, etc. factionalism, warlords and their influence, extremist militancy, unskilled populace, psychological scars left by 3 decades of war, an almost complete political and social fragmentation of the Afghan society, etc. ---all coupled with a non-existent state), it has not performed bad.

And of course, no person with a progressive and moderate/modernist vision could work under the brutal and inhuman rule of Taleban. Even their sympathizers on foreign lands preferred to remain where they were instead of returning to Afghanistan and helping their puriton brothers establish a holy society---not without reason---obviously every body loves security and lavishness in life sane those that never tasted it.

It is absolutely valid to criticise the current Afghan leadership but subjecting it to unwarranted ridicule in an attempt to undo what it has done or achieved so far and destablise Afghanistan would be a grave dis-service ( if not outright treason against Afghanistan) to people of Afghanistan. Every patriotic citizen of Afghanistan must show patience and let the present phase of stability progress and get matured and should abstain from doing things that force them towards a life of uncertainty as it was before 2001.

What is lost on you, and why your ideas continue to fail, as a member of an elite Pakistani political party, as do the ideas of the soft handed, effeminate, yellow belly Afghan elites who left the poor to die and bleed against the Russians, is that you both think you can hoodwink people with money and goods and forgo a proper analysis of implications. The idea of touting these developmental projects is: "Keep quiet... dont voice your concerns... after all, we have an airport now, some valuable rocks in the ground being mined for the overall benefit of some guy who works at JP Morgan, and some swimming pools, and telephone lines."

Where you lost the argument completely is that the man on the ground understands key terms that are lost on the governing elite: Sovereignty, independence, and economic autonomy.

There is a country that forms a very appropriate case study... a country whose history you seek to repeat with your attempts to stifle criticism... a country that Afghanistan should attempt to deviate from in terms of historical trajectory.

Ill give you a hint: That country has its own nationalized airline that flies to major countries, it has some resources in the hills of the Suleimaan Mountain range that require mining, it has wi-fi connections in capital city cafes, and it has nuclear arms. It has investment in its port city in the south as well. It sends a mass of medical students to the US every year as well as engineers abroad, even to Canada.

Yet, despite these false signs of "progress", this country, formed in 1947 (a bigger hint) is still a loser nation that has achieved nothing in terms of the key ingredients for success: SOVEREIGNTY, INDEPENDENCE, ECONOMIC AUTONOMY.

But what does one expect from a governing elite that mirrors the corrupt governing elite of that same nation? Were Pakistan to be invaded today, the Zardaris, Bhuttos, Sherpaos, Achekzais, would be on the first plane to Dodge, out of there on the fastest jet. Their people would suffer, fighting and toiling, and sacrificing, while these folks would land in the West to propagate their perpetual failures and laziness on a new host, like some parasite. What you will commonly note in these two groups of elites is that they tend to pursue nontrade and nontechnical based degree work without any scientific bent to it (because that actually takes hardwork)... they tend to chase higher level degrees in political "pseudoscience" and economics, yet they usually perform at a lower level. They then refer to themselves as "educated" compared to their rural brethren back in Afghanistan and refer to these folks as the Kiplingesque "Little Brown Brothers" in need of educating in the advanced ways of their world. Exceptions to this rule are folks like Ghaznavi who have made their roots in their adopted nation, actually do accomplish something on a larger scale, and do not lace their discussion with agendas to elevate themselves into governance enforced at the barrell end of a gun. Their goal is generally to urge nonintervention in Afghan affairs and spare their Canadian brethren the loss of much blood and treasure on a fools errand, propping up a government comprised of failed elites.

Tally these folks' accomplishments in the Western arena and what you find is that they generally are massive or submassive failures that shirked their duty to lead their people, as Washington, Jefferson, Franklin and others did, in their war of independence. Therefore, due to this inferiority complex, they take on this Wilsonian logic that it is their duty to implement their western "successes" or lack thereof on their "little brown brothers" who never asked for it.

As I noted, you see this same phenomena in Iraq where Mr. Chalabi and Maliki neither braved the gulags of Hussein and sons nor did they suffer under the crushing sanctions the masses had to endure. And like those elites, the effeminte, soft handed Afghan elites only understand the welfare check that comes from the American taxpayer. Their goal is to continue to line their pockets and throw the scraps to the Afghan people. They forsake economic independence an exchange it to build a parasitic state mirrored of their own existence as failures.

So certainly, by all means proceed along this path of touting "progress" as you build Pakistan next door to Pakistan.

At the end of the day, anyone who grasps the concepts of sovereignty, independence, and economic independence, ideas that even the malang or the zamidaar can understand knows what you are trying to sell here. Trust me, no one with two brain cells is buying your propaganda or theirs.

Regarding the Taliban, I think you once again allow your personal views and anecdote. I am sure that if they had the same welfare check mindset as the Afghan expatriot elites, they could have posted articles to the same effect:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp...1578-2002Jan15

"At a nursing school on the grounds of Mir Weis Hospital, female students and teachers this week expressed grave concern for their safety in the streets. Saying they feared being accosted and molested by gunmen, they begged the school's director for door-to-door bus service so they would not have to walk or wait outdoors.

During the Taliban era, the school received special permission to teach girls after agreeing to follow strict Islamic rules, with no men allowed on the premises, no music or parties and special curtained buses bringing veiled students to class. Now, the girls said, the atmosphere inside the school is more relaxed, but the conditions outside are far more frightening.
"We are so confused and worried. There are gunmen everywhere, and there is no stability," said Khatira, 18, a nursing student. 'I hate guns, and I only want to study. I was born in a time of fighting, and I never saw any stable conditions except with the Taliban. In the time of extremism, I could study safely. Now I can't.'"

[Niazi]

During the Taliban era, the school received special permission to teach girls after agreeing to follow strict Islamic rules, with no men allowed on the premises, no music or parties and special curtained buses bringing veiled students to class. Now, the girls said, the atmosphere inside the school is more relaxed, but the conditions outside are far more frightening.

Stop making staff out thin air ,I lived under Taliban ,I never heard such project.
دورغجن د نداي ندي خوشًًًي

[Karachi]

Bahrain is a really small country with only 400,000 people

THey should access Saudi arabia, which is a huge country of 30 million people

[BarakzaiAbdali]

Stop making staff out thin air ,I lived under Taliban ,I never heard such project.
دورغجن د نداي ندي خوشًًًي

Then write Pamela Constable with your complaints. Blame the Washington Post and learn to read. I cannot help it that you live in an alternate reality.