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    Rashid Latif targets Tests for Afghanistan

    Rashid Latif has explained that his aim during his tenure as Afghanistan's coach will be to take the national team towards Test status "within the next two years". Latif's turbulent relationship with Afghanistan cricket took a new twist after he returned to a coaching role with the national team days after stepping down as the Pakistan national academy's wicketkeeping coach, and barely a month after resigning as Afghanistan's batting coach.

    "Cricket is now more popular than the bullet in Afghanistan and I am moved by the interest and the available talent in Afghanistan," Latif told AFP after confirming that discussions with the Afghan cricket authorities had led to his coaching placement. "Some of the Afghanistan players are so talented that they can break into any international team and my target will be to guide them to Test status within the next two years."

    Latif resigned as the PCB's wicketkeeping coach after being issued a showcause notice by the board for remarks the former captain made about the ongoing spot-fixing scandal on a TV show. Latif had also worked with the Afghanistan national side as batting coach but he stepped down after a month in the post in August following coach Kabir Khan's sacking, citing irreconcilable differences with officials in the Afghan board.

    "They are an exciting team and my thinking and mentality, as a straightforward person, matches that of the Afghan players. They, like me, cannot tolerate wrongdoing. I will leave if my chemistry doesn't work there.

    "Afghanistan needs cricket to heal the scars of more than 30 years at war. It is my experience that with more and more cricket, the scars of war will be healed. A lot of people tried to dissuade me from travelling to Afghanistan but it is just like Karachi and I had no fear in Kabul or Jalalabad."

    Rashid Latif targets Tests for Afghanistan | Afghanistan Cricket News | Cricinfo.com
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    The men of Kábul and Khilj also went home; and whenever they were questioned about the Musulmáns of the Kohistán (the mountains), and how matters stood there, they said, "Don't call it Kohistán, but Afghánistán; for there is nothing there but Afgháns and disturbances." Thus it is clear that for this reason the people of the country call their home in their own language Afghánistán, and themselves Afgháns. The people of India call them Patán; but the reason for this is not known. But it occurs to me, that when, under the rule of Muhammadan sovereigns, Musulmáns first came to the city of Patná, and dwelt there, the people of India (for that reason) called them Patáns—but God knows!

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    I am proud of him.

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    • #3
      Good to have you back Rashid.

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        Er guys I've said it before and will say it again ..Latif isn't 'meant' to be a batting coach..At best he is a wicket keeping coach, Afghan's batting lineup is where they need to improve the most and I don't think Latif is fit for the Job..Look at his stats the dude didn't score a single century in an ODI in his entire career.. Not one century in 166 matches that he played and his career best is 79 scores in a one day

        What the hell were Afghan selectors thinking, he was a brilliant wicket keeper but to make him a batting coach is sheer stupidity
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        • #5
          ^ yes why do you ask ?
          It's enough that I know, Our time had a home, In your heart..Was a place..But the glass always breaks..

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Talal View Post
            Er guys I've said it before and will say it again ..Latif isn't 'meant' to be a batting coach..At best he is a wicket keeping coach, Afghan's batting lineup is where they need to improve the most and I don't think Latif is fit for the Job..Look at his stats the dude didn't score a single century in an ODI in his entire career.. Not one century in 166 matches that he played and his career best is 79 scores in a one day

            What the hell were Afghan selectors thinking, he was a brilliant wicket keeper but to make him a batting coach is sheer stupidity
            I agree, but we still need him till the ICC fills the gap!
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            • #7
              We need him because he is the best we can get.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Talal View Post
                Er guys I've said it before and will say it again ..Latif isn't 'meant' to be a batting coach..At best he is a wicket keeping coach, Afghan's batting lineup is where they need to improve the most and I don't think Latif is fit for the Job..Look at his stats the dude didn't score a single century in an ODI in his entire career.. Not one century in 166 matches that he played and his career best is 79 scores in a one day

                What the hell were Afghan selectors thinking, he was a brilliant wicket keeper but to make him a batting coach is sheer stupidity
                Well Latif might not have been a special batsman but he is an international cricketer who knows the game at the highest level. Many a times average players turn out to be wonderful coaches because they are better at making others do what they couldnt do themselves. Take all sports, many of the best coaches have been average players themselves. So being a great batsman is not a guarantee that they guy would be a good coach too and vice versa.

                And frankly, as somebody pointed out, he is the only one you can get. Many people would prefer coaching a county or a home/state team over coaching Afghanistan. and we should appreciate and thanks Latif for not doing that. May be when Afghan cricket's standing improves and they are monetarily well off they can hire the Whatmores and the Buchanan's of the world. But right now, Latif suits the purpose just fine.
                Last edited by KhalsaWarrior; 09-28-2010, 05:11 AM.

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                  Originally posted by KhalsaWarrior View Post
                  Well Latif might not have been a special batsman but he is an international cricketer who knows the game at the highest level. Many a times average players turn out to be wonderful coaches because they are better at making others do what they couldnt do themselves. Take all sports, many of the best coaches have been average players themselves. So being a great batsman is not a guarantee that they guy would be a good coach too and vice versa.
                  you cant hire an engineer to do a doctor's job, the dude was a pathetic batsmen and thats what he is being brought in to train Afghans for..Agreed kabir was probably worse than him but i think they need to branch out a bit more.

                  Originally posted by KhalsaWarrior View Post
                  And frankly, as somebody pointed out, he is the only one you can get. Many people would prefer coaching a county or a home/state team over coaching Afghanistan. and we should appreciate and thanks Latif for not doing that. May be when Afghan cricket's standing improves and they are monetarily well off they can hire the Whatmores and the Buchanan's of the world. But right now, Latif suits the purpose just fine.
                  who pointed that out to you ? Afghanistan's team is the most promising one among all the associates, and their homeground is Sharjah so its not like the coach would have to be in Afghanistan..All of their training is done in UAE so therefore no safety issues either. Latif wanted to be be picked by ACB, it wasnt the other way around.
                  It's enough that I know, Our time had a home, In your heart..Was a place..But the glass always breaks..

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Talal View Post
                    you cant hire an engineer to do a doctor's job, the dude was a pathetic batsmen and thats what he is being brought in to train Afghans for..Agreed kabir was probably worse than him but i think they need to branch out a bit more.
                    Thats a bad analogy. A wk is surely a better bastman than a bowler. If he was appointed the bowling coach, the it would have been weird. Again, he might not be the best batsman in his time but he surely played

                    who pointed that out to you ? Afghanistan's team is the most promising one among all the associates, and their homeground is Sharjah so its not like the coach would have to be in Afghanistan..All of their training is done in UAE so therefore no safety issues either. Latif wanted to be be picked by ACB, it wasnt the other way around.
                    Agreed. And I wasn't aware that their homeground is Sharjah. But its also about funds. Which good non-Asian player would be happy to coach a team in Sharjah at a not-so good remuneration? There defnitely better coaches around than Latif, but can the Afghan cricket federation afford them?

                    I actually support ICC or even BCCI to support Afghan cricket and maybe pitch in with grounds in Kabul and sponsor a better coach. BCCI has helped out other sporting bodies in India in the past. They should help Afghan cricket prosper, if they can.

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                    • #11
                      Hope SM Krishna ( India's foreign minister) advices Sharad Pawar ( Head of BCCI) to invite Afghan players to India.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by KhalsaWarrior View Post
                        Thats a bad analogy. A wk is surely a better bastman than a bowler. If he was appointed the bowling coach, the it would have been weird. Again, he might not be the best batsman in his time but he surely played

                        Agreed. And I wasn't aware that their homeground is Sharjah. But its also about funds. Which good non-Asian player would be happy to coach a team in Sharjah at a not-so good remuneration? There defnitely better coaches around than Latif, but can the Afghan cricket federation afford them?

                        I actually support ICC or even BCCI to support Afghan cricket and maybe pitch in with grounds in Kabul and sponsor a better coach. BCCI has helped out other sporting bodies in India in the past. They should help Afghan cricket prosper, if they can.
                        How is that a bad analogy ? And we aren't talking about if a wk can be a better batsman or a better bowler..we are talkin about wether latif was a 'good enough' batsman and wether he has enough experience to coach a team ? On both fronts that's a big NO..This decision was a political one, Afghan team isnt short of funds and even if they are they can still get better people to coach for them..There are tons of retired Asian players who are highly unlikely to be picked by any other foreign team just cuz they're Asian..ACB is playing politics just like PCB..
                        It's enough that I know, Our time had a home, In your heart..Was a place..But the glass always breaks..

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Talal View Post
                          How is that a bad analogy ? And we aren't talking about if a wk can be a better batsman or a better bowler..we are talkin about wether latif was a 'good enough' batsman and wether he has enough experience to coach a team ? On both fronts that's a big NO..This decision was a political one, Afghan team isnt short of funds and even if they are they can still get better people to coach for them..There are tons of retired Asian players who are highly unlikely to be picked by any other foreign team just cuz they're Asian..ACB is playing politics just like PCB..
                          Lol mate. There is not much sense in what you are talking. Rashid Latif is well qualified couch for The Afghan team. As it has been mentioned before, you don't need to be a great player to become a great coach. Dav Whatmore is a good example here. He was not any good player but has become a very successful coach. And btw Rashid Latif has his own cricket academy in Karachi so he has some experience in coaching and not only coaching he has plans as well for how to build a structure in Afghanistan so we keep producing good players.
                          “Pakistan, which plays a key role in Asia, is so famous for treachery that it is said they can get milk from a bull. They have two tongues in one mouth, and two faces on one head so they can speak everybody’s language; they use everybody, deceive everybody.

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                            Originally posted by kunar1990 View Post
                            Lol mate. There is not much sense in what you are talking. Rashid Latif is well qualified couch for The Afghan team. As it has been mentioned before, you don't need to be a great player to become a great coach. Dav Whatmore is a good example here. He was not any good player but has become a very successful coach. And btw Rashid Latif has his own cricket academy in Karachi so he has some experience in coaching and not only coaching he has plans as well for how to build a structure in Afghanistan so we keep producing good players.
                            well its your team so my opinion is irrelevant, your talkin about whatmore..he only played like 6 or 7 matches that is not enough time to even prove that your a good player or not..Latif played 166 ODI's, that is more than enough time to prove what kind of a player he is ( and not a really good one if you cant even score a single century ) comparing him to whatmore who only has like 8 matches under his belt ? nah dont think so

                            and forget even that rashid had enough time to prove himself as a wk coach for Pakistan, he failed miserably on that front too e.g Akmal

                            I rest my case
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Talal View Post
                              well its your team so my opinion is irrelevant, your talkin about whatmore..he only played like 6 or 7 matches that is not enough time to even prove that your a good player or not..Latif played 166 ODI's, that is more than enough time to prove what kind of a player he is ( and not a really good one if you cant even score a single century ) comparing him to whatmore who only has like 8 matches under his belt ? nah dont think so

                              and forget even that rashid had enough time to prove himself as a wk coach for Pakistan, he failed miserably on that front too e.g Akmal

                              I rest my case
                              Well You can also look at it that way. But then again how successful was Javid Miandad as coach? Not good if you ask me?

                              Only time will tell how good he is.

                              And yes its our team, you probably have more problems: corruption, match fixing, cheating and top of that You Have Ijaaz Butt as your President

                              And you probably need a good batting coach more then us.
                              “Pakistan, which plays a key role in Asia, is so famous for treachery that it is said they can get milk from a bull. They have two tongues in one mouth, and two faces on one head so they can speak everybody’s language; they use everybody, deceive everybody.

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