‘Punish a Muslim Day’ Letters Rattle U.K. Communities

[Akbar]

He never said any of those though,

What we've been saying is for YOUR OWN GOOD, it's because Muslims in UK have a culture of immature egoes that they think like bratty kids that when someone with insight tells them not to do something, they do it anyway because their insecurities gets in the way. Pride is one of the vices to watch out for in ISLAM. We're not saying keep a low profile for their SAKE, we're saying it FOR YOUR sake, Not to be scared, but to be Conscientious.....triying to get validation from those people is going to harm you in the end ..... As far as I can see, from the stuff you've posted ....getting stirred up and panicky is what the Islamophobes want, they don't want you to leave, they want you to cower ...remember the reason how Muslims ended up in the UK was because of Labor Protocols ...Indic Muslims (the first batch) did jobs those The right ring were too lazy to do.

I have read the first bunch if sentences and it is clearly you are being unnecessary judgemental towards Muslims in the UK. I will not respond to your unfounded arguments and machine gun tactic.

I see that you and firdousi have been portraying Muslims negatively and are looking for ways to criticize them while at the same pace defending Zionists and conforming to Islam haters.

It's very dubious that firdousi being an ex Muslim and somehow got back in the closet telling us Muslims what to do and how to practice our religion. His only so called reversion to Islam seem to be for the sake of being able to criticize Muslims as a "muslim" to gain more legitimacy.

As for you I invite you to visit London and will gladly show you around .

And no
Muslims don't need to give up their rights to appease the Islam haters and firdousi according to his own admission was one of them a bit ago.

[khushal]

Some of those "muslim" guys on speakers corner in London wear masks and hide their faces and seem to be preaching something that any rational English person would take offense to. EDL will use those people to convince their own people that violence needs to be used to protect themselves which is why politics in the West are turning right wing anti immigrant. Muslims are a very small minority in the UK and Europe. They need to watch out. The Jews hid in Europe and were not brash but they were still the scapegoats when things turned nasty.

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

I have read the first bunch if sentences and it is clearly you are being unnecessary judgemental towards Muslims in the UK. I will not respond to your unfounded arguments and machine gun tactic.

I see that you and firdousi have been portraying Muslims negatively and are looking for ways to criticize them while at the same pace defending Zionists and conforming to Islam haters.

It's very dubious that firdousi being an ex Muslim and somehow got back in the closet telling us Muslims what to do and how to practice our religion. His only so called reversion to Islam seem to be for the sake of being able to criticize Muslims as a "muslim" to gain more legitimacy.

As for you I invite you to visit London and will gladly show you around .

And no
Muslims don't need to give up their rights to appease the Islam haters and firdousi according to his own admission was one of them a bit ago.

If you feel I'm being too harsh, that's fine. Perhaps my tone does come off more like ridicule. But the criticism is to emphasize the approach being taken is foolish and it's NOT even Islamic. How can one preach about Islam but not even employ the ethics and principles of Islam in how they operate?

We're not here to tell you to give up your rights, but rather gets your heads on straight. The approach the UK community is taking over there is totally counter productive, you're mindlessly reacting rather than thinking and strategizing. You're playing into their narrative of right wing agenda while becoming patsies for the leftists. We're not saying be quiet so you can be domicile, we're saying be low profile so you can be CLEVER!. Being clever is not domicile.

As for Firdousi's re-conversion to Islam, this is not uncommon among Afghans, when you have psychopath so-called "mujaheddin" and Taliban running amok, it shakes people's faith a bit since these guys do what they do claiming they're following "authentic" Islamic teachings. But that's another issue. The fact he came back to deen could be some pathological agenda to "undermine Muslims" ...Or ......it could be that he's genuinely made a rational and conscientious decision regarding the value and merits of Islam without all the social baggage getting in the way.

While I can't read his heart, I am willing to believe the latter, partly because his views seem internally consistent and there's sound basis for his views in my opinion. TBH I'm more suspicious of people who convert to Islam than people who were born Muslim, fell out of sway and realized their heart is in Islam, because those converts could be MI6 , Mossad, FBI or CIA looking to infiltrate or run surveillance. That's not a conspiracy theory, stuff like that is actually being done.

[Akbar]

Some of those "muslim" guys on speakers corner in London wear masks and hide their faces and seem to be preaching something that any rational English person would take offense to. EDL will use those people to convince their own people that violence needs to be used to protect themselves which is why politics in the West are turning right wing anti immigrant. Muslims are a very small minority in the UK and Europe. They need to watch out. The Jews hid in Europe and were not brash but they were still the scapegoats when things turned nasty.

First of all wearing a mask or covering your face is not against the law. Secondly the one covering his face is a jamaican shia and most people consider him a charlatan.
What exactly is someone preaching that an English man would take offence to? The proper word would be a British person as English means someone from England and British is from the UK. Around UK different people from different parts of the UK live. Even Tommy Robinson has Irish background.
Again you are saying we should conform to EDL or what an English man wants, that's irrelevant. Muslims too are British citizens. There are more Muslims in UK than in America and in UK everyone has the same rights under the law.
The Muslims should be out there to remove misconceptions and demolish the lies propagated against them.
The EDL types actually want exactly what you guys have been suggesting that they go around and create lies against Muslims and Muslims don't rebuttle and scare away.

I think you guys still haven't got a proper picture of this society and how Muslims are part of it and can be openly Muslims. Only in America would a presidential candidate say that he won't allow a Muslim in the government or a president who bans Muslims from coming in and demonizing American citizens who are protected by the constitution.

The Jews controlled financial institution in Germany and England. How is that hiding?

[Akbar]

If you feel I'm being too harsh, that's fine. Perhaps my tone does come off more like ridicule. But the criticism is to emphasize the approach being taken is foolish and it's NOT even Islamic. How can one preach about Islam but not even employ the ethics and principles of Islam in how they operate?

We're not here to tell you to give up your rights, but rather gets your heads on straight. The approach the UK community is taking over there is totally counter productive, you're mindlessly reacting rather than thinking and strategizing. You're playing into their narrative of right wing agenda while becoming patsies for the leftists. We're not saying be quiet so you can be domicile, we're saying be low profile so you can be CLEVER!. Being clever is not domicile.

As for Firdousi's re-conversion to Islam, this is not uncommon among Afghans, when you have psychopath so-called "mujaheddin" and Taliban running amok, it shakes people's faith a bit since these guys do what they do claiming they're following "authentic" Islamic teachings. But that's another issue. The fact he came back to deen could be some pathological agenda to "undermine Muslims" ...Or ......it could be that he's genuinely made a rational and conscientious decision regarding the value and merits of Islam without all the social baggage getting in the way.

While I can't read his heart, I am willing to believe the latter, partly because his views seem internally consistent and there's sound basis for his views in my opinion. TBH I'm more suspicious of people who convert to Islam than people who were born Muslim, fell out of sway and realized their heart is in Islam, because those converts could be MI6 , Mossad, FBI or CIA looking to infiltrate or run surveillance. That's not a conspiracy theory, stuff like that is actually being done.

Brother I respect your opinions but they are far from truth.
I can clearly see you guys have no idea about Muslims in Britain and their interactions with the broader society.

Let me give you some examples

Most of the doctors at the gp are Muslims and I'm talking about hijab wearing female doctors and male doctors keeping sunnah. I haven't even seen a single white Dr.
At the hospitals the head Dr is either a Muslim or a Hindu.

The schools predominantly serve halal food not just to Muslims but all students.

The schools also hold charity events for Syria. The head of the school is a white English lady. The school uniform consists of a headscarf.

90 out of 100 takeaways and most likely over 50 percent restaurant serve halal. Kfc ,Nando's and subway are all halal.

The banks even give you option of Islamic banking.

[Kakar-Wardak]

Some of those "muslim" guys on speakers corner in London wear masks and hide their faces and seem to be preaching something that any rational English person would take offense to. EDL will use those people to convince their own people that violence needs to be used to protect themselves which is why politics in the West are turning right wing anti immigrant. Muslims are a very small minority in the UK and Europe. They need to watch out. The Jews hid in Europe and were not brash but they were still the scapegoats when things turned nasty.

90% of these so called dawah brothers are wahabies and the other 10% are shia who don't even come to give shia dawah rather to debate with the wahabies lol.

[Kakar-Wardak]

Brother I respect your opinions but they are far from truth.
I can clearly see you guys have no idea about Muslims in Britain and their interactions with the broader society.

Let me give you some examples

Most of the doctors at the gp are Muslims and I'm talking about hijab wearing female doctors and male doctors keeping sunnah. I haven't even seen a single white Dr.
At the hospitals the head Dr is either a Muslim or a Hindu.

The schools predominantly serve halal food not just to Muslims but all students.

The schools also hold charity events for Syria. The head of the school is a white English lady. The school uniform consists of a headscarf.

90 out of 100 takeaways and most likely over 50 percent restaurant serve halal. Kfc ,Nando's and subway are all halal.

The banks even give you option of Islamic banking.

You do know so called Islamic banking is not even Islamic they sell you a house at a stupid price than charge you "rent" instead of a interests based mortgage both are Haram, Intrest is haram and so is ripping someone off.

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

The Jews controlled financial institution in Germany and England. How is that hiding?

You have contradictory narratives, if the Jews are in some massive conspiracy and have control over everything and somehow there's some massive Jew-spiracy to undermine Muslims? then how are you guys supposedly able to express yourselves so freely?

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

Some of those "muslim" guys on speakers corner in London wear masks and hide their faces and seem to be preaching something that any rational English person would take offense to. EDL will use those people to convince their own people that violence needs to be used to protect themselves which is why politics in the West are turning right wing anti immigrant. Muslims are a very small minority in the UK and Europe. They need to watch out. The Jews hid in Europe and were not brash but they were still the scapegoats when things turned nasty.

Rightly said, I don't blame the typical British citizen getting antagonized about Muslims when you have low lives like this degenerate closet sex-predator talking about talking people's wives as war booty.



Imagine this guy going to Afghanistan and seeing Kuchi ladies who don't wear hijab, but just a poranai that shows their hair ...because Kuchi are not that strict when it comes to outward aspects of Islam...and then he deemed them murtadd, and then he says "take take them as war booty".

Seeing videos like this is what made me turn away from these erratic over emotional type of Muslims who are frothing at the mouth like donkeys.

[Akbar]

You have contradictory narratives, if the Jews are in some massive conspiracy and have control over everything and somehow there's some massive Jew-spiracy to undermine Muslims? then how are you guys supposedly able to express yourselves so freely?

I didn't claim that "Jews are in some massive conspiracy a.......".
Jews and Muslims have alot in common. Like ban on halal meat affects both of them. Also Jews are quite conservative and have their own neighbourhood in London where they have Jewish police, Jewish doctors. women and men are segregated . They have the right to live as such.

You asked about Jews in ww2 and claimed they were keeping a low profile.
Who is you guys? I'm expressing my own opinion and I consider myself open-minded.

[Akbar]

You do know so called Islamic banking is not even Islamic they sell you a house at a stupid price than charge you "rent" instead of a interests based mortgage both are Haram, Intrest is haram and so is ripping someone off.

This is a good topic for another discussion.
Start a thread and we can discuss. I'm eager to learn.

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

Brother I respect your opinions but they are far from truth.
I can clearly see you guys have no idea about Muslims in Britain and their interactions with the broader society.

Let me give you some examples

Most of the doctors at the gp are Muslims and I'm talking about hijab wearing female doctors and male doctors keeping sunnah. I haven't even seen a single white Dr.
At the hospitals the head Dr is either a Muslim or a Hindu.

The schools predominantly serve halal food not just to Muslims but all students.

The schools also hold charity events for Syria. The head of the school is a white English lady. The school uniform consists of a headscarf.

90 out of 100 takeaways and most likely over 50 percent restaurant serve halal. Kfc ,Nando's and subway are all halal.

The banks even give you option of Islamic banking.

As someone else pointed out, "Islamic Banking" is one of the BIGGEST scams there is....if anything this is evidence of Muslims being exploited and manipulted for the sake of trying to attain the status symbols of the host society. They realize Muslims are a target market and dress things up to lure them in.

Same with Take Aways, why should we be so proud of having Halal KFC? These types of food are poison. Look what's happened in countries like Kuwait with all their "Halal" Fast-foods. They're having an obesity epidemic. Making things Halal is just an agenda to target the naive. Muslims are sadly some of the most naive and easily manipulated groups

This is what I mean by keeping a low profile, it has nothing to do with abandoning your basic rights; but rather being intelligent and making wise decisions, because doing otherwise seems to open Muslims up to the type of infilitration and exploitation that is being evidenced here. LIke I said, we need to think smart, not being in the spotloght.

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

I didn't claim that "Jews are in some massive conspiracy a.......".
Jews and Muslims have alot in common. Like ban on halal meat affects both of them. Also Jews are quite conservative and have their own neighbourhood in London where they have Jewish police, Jewish doctors. women and men are segregated . They have the right to live as such.

You asked about Jews in ww2 and claimed they were keeping a low profile.
Who is you guys? I'm expressing my own opinion and I consider myself open-minded.

Sure, I don't think "banning halal" meat should be accepted, but are they trying to ban Halal meat from Muslims themselves or just not have Halal in their junk food restaurants? If it's the later. why are you worried? Let them have that rubbish. Eat healthy.

Look for the blessings in disguiise. Let them stuff their faces with processed fried chicken and beers ....they hate children, they hate having families. That's when you can take over. Have patience, get educated ...and build an infrastructure, then they won't be able to say anything.

You should read Sun Tzu's the Art of War, it'll be very useful.

[Akbar]

Sure, I don't think "banning halal" meat should be accepted, but are they trying to ban Halal meat from Muslims themselves or just not have Halal in their junk food restaurants? If it's the later. why are you worried? Let them have that rubbish. Eat healthy.

Look for the blessings in disguiise. Let them stuff their faces with processed fried chicken and beers ....they hate children, they hate having families. That's when you can take over. Have patience, get educated ...and build an infrastructure, then they won't be able to say anything.

You should read Sun Tzu's the Art of War, it'll be very useful.

I used halal and kosher as an example .

There is no campaign to ban halal or kosher.
The restaurants are not obliged to serve halal. It's their own choice. There are some people who do oppose halal and kosher slaughtermethod and deem it inhuman and trying to ban it all together.
I have no issue with British people and I think they are good people. Over majority of them are very polite nice and tolerant.
Oh "The Muslim takeover" I don't think any reasonable person believes in such a thing. The only ones who say things like this are far right extremists.
If anything I would love to go back and live in my own country.

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

I used halal and kosher as an example .

There is no campaign to ban halal or kosher.
The restaurants are not obliged to serve halal. It's their own choice. There are some people who do oppose halal and kosher slaughtermethod and deem it inhuman and trying to ban it all together.
I have no issue with British people and I think they are good people. Over majority of them are very polite nice and tolerant.
Oh "The Muslim takeover" I don't think any reasonable person believes in such a thing. The only ones who say things like this are far right extremists.
If anything I would love to go back and live in my own country.

I know it's their choice but they're doing it because it sells and if you can target a demographic, your profits increase. We should be wary of things like that.

I'm all for British Muslims establishing their own businesses, but at the same time they shouldn't be simply trying to emulate the status quo by giving "Halal" versions. Like I said "Low Profile" but acting smart about it ...I can't stress that enough.

As for Muslim Take Over, I mean being a strong community in the UK, internally subsistant. But demographically, this will eventually happen, Muslims are the scapegoat for their Native society's own naiveness and stupidity, they wanted to be "Modern" so bad, they abandoned the role of family and now it's coming back to bite them.