Pakistani males head to Chitral for sexual adventures with Kalash women

[Samandri]

Maureen Line observes 'Numerous jeeps and wagons crammed with young Pakistani males head towards the area in search of sexual adventures with the Kalash women who are erroneously perceived as being promiscuous' (1994).

Alarming consequences are reported by a Gerard Roville (1988), who writes The young girls, and preferably the unmarried, are employed as servants by businessmen or officials in Rawalpindi or Islamabad for miserable wages, and being non-Muslims they have a reputation for being lose women, at least in the big cities, and are wanted for this rather than for simple household duties. This reputation appears to have grown among the city population and is threatening to lead to forms of internal tourism oriented towards prostitution.

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[Traveller]

Some Pakistani men are perverts but I'm sure these kind of people don't represent an entire country of the 200 million people.

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

Indic Pakistani males should be castrated and emasculated from an early age.

[Samandri]

These are 1988's and 1994's reports, its a lot worse today. Even in 1988 , Kalash girls are getting sexually exploited as household servants in big cities of Pakistan. As they dont marry non-Muslims, their villages might turn into brothels if its continued to be pressured by internal tourism.

Desis, whose females rub tons of creams and lotions for lightening their skin colour and wear contact lens for blue and green eyes, have developed a fetish for Kalasha girls who are naturally endowed with these features. Cherry picked pictures of Kalash girls are all over the place. Desi boys see these pictures and gets excited. Trips are made to Kalash villages solely for the girls, not for their culture or natural beauty of their valleys. An incident was told to me by a person who went there. He saw a group of Lahori college boys getting caned in "murgha" position by Faujis as punishment for raping a kalash girl. The incident was not reported in any newspaper. It seems to me such incidents occur from time to time but are not allowed to leak as it will damage the tourism and reputation.

[Elite Pakhtun]

This has probably stopped because all the major cities have prostitutes now..

Commuting all the way to Chitral just for this sounds like a pain.



"Islamic" Republic.

[Samandri]

This has probably stopped because all the major cities have prostitutes now..

Commuting all the way to Chitral just for this sounds like a pain.



"Islamic" Republic.

Kalash girls are not prostitutes. They are innocent in their own way. The "adventure" for Desis is wooing them (in Desi way).

Brothels in Pakistan (on other side of Attock) are there since ancient times. But the prostitutes there are very ugly and dirty. Its not a booming industry like in the west. Only dirty, poor and base born persons visit those brothels opened in every corner of their cities.

[Samandri]

Khyber Pakhtunkhwa government should ban tourism in Kalash villages. They should be allowed to have private lives with no intrusions from tourists.

[maneatinglizard]

This is disgusting behavior.

Aren't Kalash slowly being converted to Islam and Pashtunized? I think I've read stories about that in Western media. If that happens, this behavior will end inshallah.

Some Pakistani men are perverts but I'm sure these kind of people don't represent an entire country of the 200 million people.

It doesn't represent all of them, but white skin envy and perversion seem to be pretty well established in modern Punjabi/Indic culture. This is something they need to solve within their own community. The good ones need to call out and ostracize the problematic people or things towing improve.

[Samandri]

This is disgusting behavior.

Aren't Kalash slowly being converted to Islam and Pashtunized? I think I've read stories about that in Western media. If that happens, this behavior will end inshallah.



It doesn't represent all of them, but white skin envy and perversion seem to be pretty well established in modern Punjabi/Indic culture. This is something they need to solve within their own community. The good ones need to call out and ostracize the problematic people or things towing improve.

They are not getting Pashtunized, Chitral is a non-Pashtun region. There were some perceived threats to them from Taliban of Afghanistan side (their villages are on the border with Afghanistan and there were Taliban in Nuristan) which was reported by Western media. As Taliban are representative of Pashtun culture in the eyes of western media, so the Taliban threat was perceived as "Pashtunization" attempt....What was assumed as "Taliban", were actually some raiders from Nuristan who stole their sheep and goats.

Kalash people intermingle with neighboring Chitrali people (non-Pashtuns) who are called Kho. They convert to Islam when they settle outside their native villages. Within their own native villages, they are not getting Islamized (its in the interest of Pakistan to keep them non-Muslims for tourism purpose, as they lose their unique culture and customs upon conversion to Islam). There are some reports that Tablighi jamaat preach to them, but i have also come across reports that Tablighi jamaat is not allowed to enter their valleys.

[Elite Pakhtun]

Kalash girls are not prostitutes. They are innocent in their own way. The "adventure" for Desis is wooing them (in Desi way).

I'm sure they would consider doing it if they saw profits from it.

Brothels in Pakistan (on other side of Attock) are there since ancient times. But the prostitutes there are very ugly and dirty. Its not a booming industry like in the west. Only dirty, poor and base born persons visit those brothels opened in every corner of their cities.

Yes those are nasty... even in the west, majority of hookers are nasty as well. In the US there are some fat hookers that have a ****ing wig or something.

But like everything, the more you pay, the better the product.

This is all hearsay, of course. I've never partaken in hookers and drugs. We mentioned drugs too right? I'm sure we did somewhere.

I bet you can find good ones in Pak as well. I hear Tajiki afghan refugees take up this profession often.

[maneatinglizard]

They are not getting Pashtunized, Chitral is a non-Pashtun region. There were some perceived threats to them from Taliban of Afghanistan side (their villages are on the border with Afghanistan and there were Taliban in Nuristan) which was reported by Western media. As Taliban are representative of Pashtun culture in the eyes of western media, so the Taliban threat was perceived as "Pashtunization" attempt....What was assumed as "Taliban", were actually some raiders from Nuristan who stole their sheep and goats.

Kalash people intermingle with neighboring Chitrali people (non-Pashtuns) who are called Kho. They convert to Islam when they settle outside their native villages. Within their own native villages, they are not getting Islamized (its in the interest of Pakistan to keep them non-Muslims for tourism purpose, as they lose their unique culture and customs upon conversion to Islam). There are some reports that Tablighi jamaat preach to them, but i have also come across reports that Tablighi jamaat is not allowed to enter their valleys.

I'm sure they would consider doing it if they saw profits from it.

Most people find sex work distasteful and shameful, even in the west. That's partly why it's so profitable. I don't know enough about Kalash culture to know their opinions on prostitution, but most cultures do not tolerate it.

Yes those are nasty... even in the west, majority of hookers are nasty as well. In the US there's a lot of black hookers, or the white ones have a ****ing wig or something.

But like everything, the more you pay, the better the product.

This is all hearsay, of course. I've never partaken in hookers and drugs. We mentioned drugs too right? I'm sure we did somewhere.

I bet you can find good ones in Pak as well. I hear Tajiki afghan refugees take up this profession often.

Probably anti-Afghan BS.

[Elite Pakhtun]

Probably anti-Afghan BS.

No I have very reliable sources that tell me this happens.. shouldn't be hard to believe. Not sure why you're skeptical.

There's ample bundjabi and sindhi prostitutes too. In case you think it's a knock on Afghans. You can find Bundjab hookers in lahore everywhere.

[maneatinglizard]

No I have very reliable sources that tell me this happens.. shouldn't be hard to believe. Not sure why you're skeptical.

There's ample bundjabi and sindhi prostitutes too. In case you think it's a knock on Afghans. You can find Bundjab hookers in lahore everywhere.

Tajiks don't have a reputation for prostitution in Afghanistan, so I don't see why they'd suddenly take it up in large numbers in Pakistan. In fact, despite Afghanistan being a dirt poor country, the prostitutes there are often imported from other places (my guess is the clientele are mostly Westerner NGO employees/military that can afford it).

As for the Punjabi/Indic prostitutes, those come from families that have worked in singing/dancing/prostitution for generations. It's basically their family trade.

[Traveller]

This is disgusting behavior.
Aren't Kalash slowly being converted to Islam and Pashtunized? I think I've read stories about that in Western media. If that happens, this behavior will end inshallah.

They are being converted to Islam. Don't know about Pashtunization. Chitral is being slowly Pashtunized but I don't think Pashtunization has reached the remote valleys of the Kalash.
Conversion to Islam will unfortunately make it worse. Har punjabay ba da kalasho sara wada kawal pa chakar ke wi.

It doesn't represent all of them, but white skin envy and perversion seem to be pretty well established in modern Punjabi/Indic culture. This is something they need to solve within their own community. The good ones need to call out and ostracize the problematic people or things towing improve.

Yeah this is true. I hope it gets fixed. Part of it is teaching people to not hate themselves.

[Samandri]

I hear Tajiki afghan refugees take up this profession often.

The Kabuli women in Peshawar were not open and brothel-associated prostitutes (there are no brothels in Peshawar). I suspect those women had the same profession back in their Kabul city (Kabul always had prostitutes). These days i dont hear about them so they might have moved to bigger cities of Pakistan. Because of those few women, the Farsiwan refugees earned a bad name in Peshawar. Every respectable Farsiwana was receiving vulgar and hopeful stares from Peshawaris.