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  • #61
    Deluded pakis think they are different from Indians. lol

    ask any non-South Asian person, and they will say Paki and Indians are the same ****. lol

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    • #62
      Originally posted by ذو الفقار View Post

      God forbid
      Please don't act like you don't know English.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by toughpashtun View Post
        Much of what she has written appears to be bs.
        Sexual molestation of kids takes place in every society and our's is not an exception , but the way she writes makes it clear that she has some sort of frustration and anger that she is venting out.

        What I don't understand is that why would ANP support such women?

        [MENTION=18475]marwat[/MENTION] , [MENTION=5381]Shamlawar Khurasani[/MENTION]

        I mean , ANP , with all its flaws , has roots in the Pashtuns (both rural and urban) of Peshawar valley and Swat.It does have a secular agenda , so if this woman was focused on writing against the religious elements of our society , it would be understandable that she would be on the same page as ANP.
        But here she is badmouthing Pashtuns as a whole.

        If you study the development of romanticism and the rise of nationalism as a political ideology and how it gradually evolved into modern day feminism and leftist liberalism you’ll see why leftist movements Produce people like her.

        Feminism is rooted in Marxist ideology where there always have to be an oppressor and an oppressed. In order to preserve the conflict between the oppressor and the oppressed people who rely on Marxist models don’t shy away from lying and fabricating stuff.

        Nationalist tell lies about people from other ethnic and political backgrounds, socialists tell lies about businessmen and entrepreneurs. Feminists tell lies about men.

        You can’t keep telling people that there is an existential conflict between two groups if stick to the facts and nuances. You have to paint a black and white picture.
        Originally posted by Firdousi
        Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Shamlawar Khurasani View Post
          If you study the development of romanticism and the rise of nationalism as a political ideology and how it gradually evolved into modern day feminism and leftist liberalism you’ll see why leftist movements Produce people like her.

          Feminism is rooted in Marxist ideology where there always have to be an oppressor and an oppressed. In order to preserve the conflict between the oppressor and the oppressed people who rely on Marxist models don’t shy away from lying and fabricating stuff.

          Nationalist tell lies about people from other ethnic and political backgrounds, socialists tell lies about businessmen and entrepreneurs. Feminists tell lies about men.

          You can’t keep telling people that there is an existential conflict between two groups if stick to the facts and nuances. You have to paint a black and white picture.
          Far-right movements call it "cultural marxism". Although its a conspiracy theory, I do believe it makes sense. Lefties got some sort of "obsession" when it comes to the historical dominant and privileged groups ("oppressors") in the Western world: Christians, males, white people, businessmen, straight people,etc.

          In order to "reverse" this social order, they are willing to support anything and anyone. Thats why they got some sort of "crush" on anyone opposite that those people: women, gays, ethnic and religious minorities, working class, and so on.

          Lefties are not our friends. They claim to stand for Human Rights and global brotherhood but its not true. They only care as long as it benefits their own agenda. Do you see lefties condemning Bashar al Assad and his mass murdering of Sunni civilians? Do you see them condemning Putin, Iran or North Korea? No, because those people are enemies of the USA and NATO, ergo their natural friends. Thats why I despise so much leftism. I wish there was some sort of "rational conservative groups" in the West, but most of them are a bunch of retarded decadent losers. So the West is in decay due to lefty politics.
          "For thirty years, I endured much pain and strife,
          I awaken the Ajam by this Persian [language]. "

          -Ferdowsi.

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          • #65
            im not opposed to feminism in our parts in fact its really needed actually but western wannabe idiots like this just give our bahadurs back home more ammo against any mention of womens empowerment groups

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            • #66
              Originally posted by kunatawar View Post
              im not opposed to feminism in our parts in fact its really needed actually but western wannabe idiots like this just give our bahadurs back home more ammo against any mention of womens empowerment groups
              feminism robs women of their feminine qualities, while demasculinizing men. both goes against the innate nature of the species. feminism would destroy muslim societies.
              Last edited by Nertj; 10-11-2017, 03:28 PM.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Nertj View Post
                feminism robs women of their feminine qualities, while demasculinizing men. both goes against the innate nature of the species.
                there are definitely things feminism can improve for women in our society. Besides that the type of degenerate cultural changes you are afraid feminism will enable in our society happened in the west after the sexual revolution, now do you really think our type of society would allow a sexual revolution even if feminism became as mainstream as the west?

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by kunatawar View Post
                  there are definitely things feminism can improve for women in our society. Besides that the type of degenerate cultural changes you are afraid feminism will enable in our society happened in the west after the sexual revolution, now do you really think our type of society would allow a sexual revolution even if feminism became as mainstream as the west?
                  Yes, absolutely.

                  Our society wont be "our society" any longer if feminism were to make any significant changes to it.

                  But I think all this talk about feminism is probably flawed because it doesn't seem like everyone is defining "feminism" the same.

                  So what is "feminism" and why is it required, or why would it benefit, Pashtun/Afghan/Muslim society?

                  In my view, feminism is a Western cultural trend that came about as a reaction by increasingly educated women to the extreme chauvinism that's been a facet of Western society since the Greeks and especially Romans. As a reactionary movement, it's become increasingly extremist, to the point that no one takes a lot of modernist feminist thought seriously (garbage like normalizing prostitution). I don't think Muslim societies have the same problem that Western societies have had historically, which is the same reason feminist treatment of Islam and Muslim societies has always been fundamentally flawed: they look at us from the frame of Western society, and try to apply the same standards and criticisms to us, even though the origins, norms, and values of our societies are completely different.

                  Is there room to improve the conditions of women in Pashtun/Afghan/Muslim societies? I think so, but it has to be done internally, with a local mindset, guided by the cultural norms and values of our own societies (i.e. Islam), and not by Western-educated charlatans that have no understanding of the societies that they're trying to change.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by kunatawar View Post
                    there are definitely things feminism can improve for women in our society. Besides that the type of degenerate cultural changes you are afraid feminism will enable in our society happened in the west after the sexual revolution, now do you really think our type of society would allow a sexual revolution even if feminism became as mainstream as the west?
                    What is defined as "Feminism" is a Western ideology. Once you allow this to infest your society, all the other side effects will arrive as well. "Feminism" will be like a trojan horse for Muslim societies.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by maneatinglizard View Post
                      Yes, absolutely.

                      Our society wont be "our society" any longer if feminism were to make any significant changes to it.

                      But I think all this talk about feminism is probably flawed because it doesn't seem like everyone is defining "feminism" the same.

                      So what is "feminism" and why is it required, or why would it benefit, Pashtun/Afghan/Muslim society?

                      In my view, feminism is a Western cultural trend that came about as a reaction by increasingly educated women to the extreme chauvinism that's been a facet of Western society since the Greeks and especially Romans. As a reactionary movement, it's become increasingly extremist, to the point that no one takes a lot of modernist feminist thought seriously (garbage like normalizing prostitution). I don't think Muslim societies have the same problem that Western societies have had historically, which is the same reason feminist treatment of Islam and Muslim societies has always been fundamentally flawed: they look at us from the frame of Western society, and try to apply the same standards and criticisms to us, even though the origins, norms, and values of our societies are completely different.

                      Is there room to improve the conditions of women in Pashtun/Afghan/Muslim societies? I think so, but it has to be done internally, with a local mindset, guided by the cultural norms and values of our own societies (i.e. Islam), and not by Western-educated charlatans that have no understanding of the societies that they're trying to change.
                      Mainstream Western feminism doesn't really care about the Islamic world and the women living in there. Their only goal is to destroy traditional Western patriarchy. The Islamic patriarchy? Not so much. Since the Western world is in a deep crisis due to liberal policies, I believe that if the West wants to survive needs to give up on Liberalism and go conservative.

                      Feminism is a cancer. Women rights and women situation in the Islamic world can be improved within the cultural and religious values of our societies.
                      "For thirty years, I endured much pain and strife,
                      I awaken the Ajam by this Persian [language]. "

                      -Ferdowsi.

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by Firdousi View Post
                        Mainstream Western feminism doesn't really care about the Islamic world and the women living in there. Their only goal is to destroy traditional Western patriarchy. The Islamic patriarchy? Not so much. Since the Western world is in a deep crisis due to liberal policies, I believe that if the West wants to survive needs to give up on Liberalism and go conservative.
                        There was a big push by feminists to try to pressure Muslims to change a few years ago. Remember that campaign where Muslim women (I think Tunisians) were posting pictures of themselves topless? Here in America feminists are becoming a big source of debate in the Muslim community. What basically happened was that Muslims here got scared when Trump won the election, and started allying themselves with liberal groups like feminists, LGBT activists, etc., and now those groups are using this opportunity to pressure Muslims here to accept their agendas.

                        Originally posted by Firdousi View Post
                        Feminism is a cancer. Women rights and women situation in the Islamic world can be improved within the cultural and religious values of our societies.
                        Yep. There are things to learn from modern Western civilization, but feminism isn't one of them. If anything, it's an example of what not to do.

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by Nertj View Post
                          feminism robs women of their feminine qualities, while demasculinizing men. both goes against the innate nature of the species. feminism would destroy muslim societies.
                          Certain manifestations of it can, but I think the move towards securing greater welfare and opportunities for women is something we should all be striving for. I don't like thinking of 6 year old girls being married off when they aren't even aware of what it all entails. the problem is as maneatinglizard said, people conflate the histrionic display of nipple pierced dyed haired clowns as being "feminism" and gives a poor representation of what women's movements are really about. And thanks to intersectionalism women's movements that genuinely do just want to improve the welfare of women, the vulnerable and the marginalized often have to cooperate with these social degenerates in the West because they have nowhere else to turn to.

                          If you really want to combat feminism. Discredit them by doing more for women in our region while showing our traditional values are still valid.

                          Also, as economist Kaushik Basu says: "For a nation to progress it is important for people to spend time on science, mathematics and literature instead of spending time showing that 5,000 years ago their ancestors did science, mathematics and literature."


                          Originally posted by ذو الفقار
                          don’t try to be smart.

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by Iblis_Efreetzai View Post
                            Certain manifestations of it can, but I think the move towards securing greater welfare and opportunities for women is something we should all be striving for. I don't like thinking of 6 year old girls being married off when they aren't even aware of what it all entails. the problem is as maneatinglizard said, people conflate the histrionic display of nipple pierced dyed haired clowns as being "feminism" and gives a poor representation of what women's movements are really about. And thanks to intersectionalism women's movements that genuinely do just want to improve the welfare of women, the vulnerable and the marginalized often have to cooperate with these social degenerates in the West because they have nowhere else to turn to.

                            If you really want to combat feminism. Discredit them by doing more for women in our region while showing our traditional values are still valid.
                            The mistake not to make is equating welfare of women with feminism. they are not the same thing.

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by Nertj View Post
                              The mistake not to make is equating welfare of women with feminism. they are not the same thing.
                              Sure, but what are non-feminists doing about that?

                              Also, as economist Kaushik Basu says: "For a nation to progress it is important for people to spend time on science, mathematics and literature instead of spending time showing that 5,000 years ago their ancestors did science, mathematics and literature."


                              Originally posted by ذو الفقار
                              don’t try to be smart.

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by Firdousi View Post
                                Far-right movements call it "cultural marxism". Although its a conspiracy theory, I do believe it makes sense. Lefties got some sort of "obsession" when it comes to the historical dominant and privileged groups ("oppressors") in the Western world: Christians, males, white people, businessmen, straight people,etc.

                                In order to "reverse" this social order, they are willing to support anything and anyone. Thats why they got some sort of "crush" on anyone opposite that those people: women, gays, ethnic and religious minorities, working class, and so on.

                                Lefties are not our friends. They claim to stand for Human Rights and global brotherhood but its not true. They only care as long as it benefits their own agenda. Do you see lefties condemning Bashar al Assad and his mass murdering of Sunni civilians? Do you see them condemning Putin, Iran or North Korea? No, because those people are enemies of the USA and NATO, ergo their natural friends. Thats why I despise so much leftism. I wish there was some sort of "rational conservative groups" in the West, but most of them are a bunch of retarded decadent losers. So the West is in decay due to lefty politics.

                                Tfw to intelligent

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