Thousands of Iranian 'refugees' converting to Christianity in Netherlands

[Friends of Baloch]

I dont really know why, but there is something very funny about this.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-e...he-netherlands

[Firdousi]

I dont really know why, but there is something very funny about this.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-e...he-netherlands

This is not funny, bro. Actually as a Persianspeaker, I find this embarrassing, disgusting and depressing. I f ucking hate this low life losers even when I know its not their fault.

Most of northern Iranians are White wannabes. This is not a new phenomena. Its actually decades old. Its gharbazadegi in Farsi, "Westoxication". Muslim intellectuals have failed to create a modern identity in the Islamic world so we are basically stuck between crazy religious zealots and dirty white wannabes suffering from inferiority complex. When people can't find respect and rights in their own countries, how can we blame them for looking somewhere else?

[Friends of Baloch]

This is not funny, bro. Actually as a Persianspeaker, I find this embarrassing, disgusting and depressing. I f ucking hate this low life losers even when I know its not their fault.

Most of northern Iranians are White wannabes. This is not a new phenomena. Its actually decades old. Its gharbazadegi in Farsi, "Westoxication". Muslim intellectuals have failed to create a modern identity in the Islamic world so we are basically stuck between crazy religious zealots and dirty white wannabes suffering from inferiority complex. When people can't find respect and rights in their own countries, how can we blame them for looking somewhere else?

What i find funny is that these "refugees" think that they are fooling anybody by 'converting' to Christianity. Everybody knows that they dont care about Christianity just like they didnt care about Islam back in Iran. It's a sham, and i know that it has been going on for many, many years by Iranians that want to immigrate to the West by hook or by crook (crook in the case of 'conversions'). Most of these people dont care about religion period.

Why are you embarrassed anyway? You have nothing to do with these people. Their actions reflect only on themselves, not on their culture.

But it does say something about the failure of Islam, or let us say, Khomeinism in Iran.

Iranians have been abandoning Islam for decades, that is not news to anyone who knows very well that country and culture.

But that isnt the issue i had i mind.

It's the fake conversions to Christianity and the stupid lies that these type of Iranians tell about becoming a Christian, 'finding Jesus' and all that other nonsense that just makes me cringe and want to laugh.

They might be able to fool a few gullible European Christians (but as the video shows, many Duth Christians have clear suspicions) but i know these people and they cant fool me.

They dont want to live in Iran and will find any excuse not to return there. That's about as far as their 'Christianity' goes.

But in the end, i dont blame anyone for not wanting to live under a crappy Khomeinist theocracy that sent teenage boys to their deaths clearing minefields in the name of the "Imam" Khomeini.

[Firdousi]

What i find funny is that these "refugees" think that they are fooling anybody by 'converting' to Christianity. Everybody knows that they dont care about Christianity just like they didnt care about Islam back in Iran. It's a sham, and i know that it has been going on for many, many years by Iranians that want to immigrate to the West by hook or by crook (crook in the case of 'conversions'). Most of these people dont care about religion period.

Why are you embarrassed anyway? You have nothing to do with these people. Their actions reflect only on themselves, not on their culture.

But it does say something about the failure of Islam, or let us say, Khomeinism in Iran.

Iranians have been abandoning Islam for decades, that is not news to anyone who knows very well that country and culture.

But that isnt the issue i had i mind.

It's the fake conversions to Christianity and the stupid lies that these type of Iranians tell about becoming a Christian, 'finding Jesus' and all that other nonsense that just makes me cringe and want to laugh.

They might be able to fool a few gullible European Christians (but as the video shows, many Duth Christians have clear suspicions) but i know these people and they cant fool me.

They dont want to live in Iran and will find any excuse not to return there. That's about as far as their 'Christianity' goes.

But in the end, i dont blame anyone for not wanting to live under a crappy Khomeinist theocracy that sent teenage boys to their deaths clearing minefields in the name of the "Imam" Khomeini.

Its not about Iranians caring or not about religion. The only reason why they despise Islam its because they are stuck in the old chauvinistic nationalism that was so mainstream in the West during the 19th and 20th century. Iranians hate Islam because they have an irrational hatred toward Arabs.

I am embarrassed for many reason. The main one its because Ibelieve that Persia is not just a culture or a nation. Its a civilization with a distinctive identity, with its own architecture, literature, language, history and ethnic reality. When I see disgusting people like this behaving in such a shameless ways just to get a f ucking passport I can feel nothing but pain, embarrassment and a bit of hatred. This kind of behavior has become so widespread that can and must be considered as part of the Iranian culture.

But once again I can not blame them. They hate their dirty regime that has brought them nothing but shame and misery. At the same time Europeans are naive and s tupid as ****. I like the way fake Muslims and ex-Muslims such as Hirshi Ali, Salman Rushdie or Ibn Warraq are making so much money off of the Westerners by telling them what they want to hear. After all, Westerners have a huge consideration of themselves but they are nothing special

[Kakar-Wardak]

They went from one form of kuffar to another, Lol who cares rafida or christian both are mushrikhs.

[Kakar-Wardak]

Iranians Mullahs can only brainwash the uneducated Iraqis, hazaras and Some idiot Dravadian pakis to go fight for them in syria, Their own youth is irreligious and westernized.

[Nekrofrost]

This is way too common even here in sweden. Hell over here even hazaras will convert.

[Akbar]

its not just iranians but also ,tajiks ,hazaras and uzbeks.
matter of fact they have their own churches and congregations in netherlands.
also point to be noted they dont follow Islam in most cases anyway, in weddings you will get to see men and women dancing together ,drunk men and mini skirt wearing women and some cases drunk women as well.

not to say that some pashtuns dont do that as well but it is rare that they would change their religion. also those pashtuns who live like those ''progressive'' people dont speak pashto and in some cases are anti pashtun.

[jahan2]

its not just iranians but also ,tajiks ,hazaras and uzbeks.
matter of fact they have their own churches and congregations in netherlands.
also point to be noted they dont follow Islam in most cases anyway, in weddings you will get to see men and women dancing together ,drunk men and mini skirt wearing women and some cases drunk women as well.

not to say that some pashtuns dont do that as well but it is rare that they would change their religion. also those pashtuns who live like those ''progressive'' people dont speak pashto and in some cases are anti pashtun.

These cant fresh off the boat people. Maybe 2nd or third generations who lost cultural touch with the homeland.

Also maybe depends on how liberal or conservative people are raised in the western countries and what kind of values they have inherited. Or it could also be an effect of Islamophobia and as a result some weak minded people fall off.

There are mosques in every part of Western world for Muslims to gather and keep their communities alive. There is no excuse why Muslims should be ditching their faith or cultural values.

[ShahMassoud]

its not just iranians but also ,tajiks ,hazaras and uzbeks.
matter of fact they have their own churches and congregations in netherlands.
also point to be noted they dont follow Islam in most cases anyway, in weddings you will get to see men and women dancing together ,drunk men and mini skirt wearing women and some cases drunk women as well.

not to say that some pashtuns dont do that as well but it is rare that they would change their religion. also those pashtuns who live like those ''progressive'' people dont speak pashto and in some cases are anti pashtun.

I dont want to defending these people who behave like that. But all this Talk of embarresement and ditching faith and cultural values, there is a ghay tran who belongs to Pashtun ethnic. This ****head is actively working to Bring his depravity to Afghanistan.

Accept you have a problem as a whole and deal with IT. Singling out others to make yourself appear more noble won't solve anything. This is a problem affecting people of all Afghanistan groups, even all Muslims.

[khushal]

These cant fresh off the boat people. Maybe 2nd or third generations who lost cultural touch with the homeland.

Also maybe depends on how liberal or conservative people are raised in the western countries and what kind of values they have inherited. Or it could also be an effect of Islamophobia and as a result some weak minded people fall off.

There are mosques in every part of Western world for Muslims to gather and keep their communities alive. There is no excuse why Muslims should be ditching their faith or cultural values.

What Ive noticed is that the new arrivals become "ayash" very quickly, drinking smoking, womanizing and the ones that grow up here a little more tame.

I know this pakistani girl who was born and raised here who wears hijab and has a very high level of "adab" and she married a guy from Karachi who came here and is fuked up. I know of many situations like this.

[Firdousi]

its not just iranians but also ,tajiks ,hazaras and uzbeks.
matter of fact they have their own churches and congregations in netherlands.
also point to be noted they dont follow Islam in most cases anyway, in weddings you will get to see men and women dancing together ,drunk men and mini skirt wearing women and some cases drunk women as well.

not to say that some pashtuns dont do that as well but it is rare that they would change their religion. also those pashtuns who live like those ''progressive'' people dont speak pashto and in some cases are anti pashtun.

Exactly. Pashtuns are busy defending Islam, blowing themselves up in markets, hospitals, schools and so on. Its the best way to bring honor to Islam lol

Fool

[Firdousi]

What Ive noticed is that the new arrivals become "ayash" very quickly, drinking smoking, womanizing and the ones that grow up here a little more tame.

I know this pakistani girl who was born and raised here who wears hijab and has a very high level of "adab" and she married a guy from Karachi who came here and is fuked up. I know of many situations like this.

Most of the "new arrivals" are young, single males who are not used to individualism and freedom. With no friends, family, relatives and close people around, with no bright future at sight, wit no education, they lose their minds.

[Friends of Baloch]

There are mosques in every part of Western world for Muslims to gather and keep their communities alive. There is no excuse why Muslims should be ditching their faith or cultural values.

LOL. Most of those people are illegal immigrants pretending to be refugees. It has nothing to do with religion and people generally in Iran are frankly not religious and dont care about Islam, especially the people 35 years and younger.

These people are ditching Iran to get away from Islam. The last thing they are going to do is associate with Muslims outside of it. But i dont believe that they are genuine converts to Christianity. Thats what makes me laugh and cringe a bit at these 'refugee convert' stories. They think it will help them not get sent back to Iran, its that simple.

The irony of Islamic Republic Iran theocracy is that it has repelled a huge number of its young away from Islam and even turned many of them against it.

[Karachi]

They are idiots, christianity offers nothing, just like islam offers nothing.