Punjabi and Pashto

[Karachi]

In Indian languages, Punjabi is considered the roughest language, unlike the much more developed/soft languages like Urdu, Hindi, Bengali etc....

Is this also true for Pashto in Iranid languages? I have noticed Farsi/Dari sound much more sweeter then Pashto, which sounds rough, I am not sure how kurdish or any other Iranid languages sound

[Traveller]

Pashto has it's own flavor and I find it very nice to listen to.

[Kakar-Wardak]

Southern pashto is very sweet.

[salman47]

It had happened on last Juma, I was with a Turkish Friend returning from Juma and some Indians/Pakistanis(don't be pissed, Indians and Pakistanis have a very strong community outside of sub continent) seem to pass by speaking half English/Half their language. My friend commented 'they are Indians right? They have a very fast and funny accent(esp. English)', also he commented about cleanliness of Indians/Pakistanis(uncleanliness of course, but lets put that aside).
On the other hand I asked how Pashto sounded like, and his response was 'Very Rough'.

P.S. My Turkish friend had lived with Indian/Pakistanis for about a year. And he has several Pashtun friends. I just found out that My Pashto is mix of Northern and Southern Pashto!

[Traveller]

It had happened on last Juma, I was with a Turkish Friend returning from Juma and some Indians/Pakistanis(don't be pissed, Indians and Pakistanis have a very strong community outside of sub continent) seem to pass by speaking half English/Half their language. My friend commented 'they are Indians right? They have a very fast and funny accent(esp. English)', also he commented about cleanliness of Indians/Pakistanis(uncleanliness of course, but lets put that aside).
On the other hand I asked how Pashto sounded like, and his response was 'Very Rough'.

P.S. My Turkish friend had lived with Indian/Pakistanis for about a year. And he has several Pashtun friends. I just found out that My Pashto is mix of Northern and Southern Pashto!

Why do you speak a mix? Is one of your parents a northern Pashtun and the other a southern Pashtun?

[salman47]

Why do you speak a mix? Is one of your parents a northern Pashtun and the other a southern Pashtun?

Northern, but speak the Central dialect!. I have been to many places in Pashtunistan and have friends from all over!
Hence the influence. I can understand and speak most of the Pashto accents.

[Charsi Malang]

In Indian languages, Punjabi is considered the roughest language, unlike the much more developed/soft languages like Urdu, Hindi, Bengali etc....

Is this also true for Pashto in Iranid languages? I have noticed Farsi/Dari sound much more sweeter then Pashto, which sounds rough, I am not sure how kurdish or any other Iranid languages sound

What is your creepy obsession with Pashtuns?

You are like a bad smell which doesn't go away. Get a life -you have nothing positive to contribute to this forum. No one here benefits from any of your posts- you can't add your opinions about anything that concerns us because you are not one of us so why hang around here posting weird threads?? All your posts are either anti Afghan or anti Muslim. This is a Pashtun forum yet because of fanny farts like you we all spend half our time insulting your kind instead of focusing on our own problems.

I urge you andiwalaano- please don't respond to any of this guys posts.

[maneatinglizard]

It had happened on last Juma, I was with a Turkish Friend returning from Juma and some Indians/Pakistanis(don't be pissed, Indians and Pakistanis have a very strong community outside of sub continent) seem to pass by speaking half English/Half their language. My friend commented 'they are Indians right? They have a very fast and funny accent(esp. English)', also he commented about cleanliness of Indians/Pakistanis(uncleanliness of course, but lets put that aside).
On the other hand I asked how Pashto sounded like, and his response was 'Very Rough'.

P.S. My Turkish friend had lived with Indian/Pakistanis for about a year. And he has several Pashtun friends. I just found out that My Pashto is mix of Northern and Southern Pashto!

That's funny, because I've always thought of Turkish as a really ugly language. I can understand non-Pashtuns disliking our language, as it is in many ways quite archaic, with lots of initial consonant clusters, uncommon sounds like retroflexes, and a terse sound compared to other Indo-Iranian languages, but Turkic languages as a whole don't sound very good.

[Dost]

It had happened on last Juma, I was with a Turkish Friend returning from Juma and some Indians/Pakistanis(don't be pissed, Indians and Pakistanis have a very strong community outside of sub continent) seem to pass by speaking half English/Half their language. My friend commented 'they are Indians right? They have a very fast and funny accent(esp. English)', also he commented about cleanliness of Indians/Pakistanis(uncleanliness of course, but lets put that aside).
On the other hand I asked how Pashto sounded like, and his response was 'Very Rough'.

P.S. My Turkish friend had lived with Indian/Pakistanis for about a year. And he has several Pashtun friends. I just found out that My Pashto is mix of Northern and Southern Pashto!

Wow, you sound like an absolute liar. Pakistani Urdu accent is not the same as Indian Hindi accent at all. Unless, perhaps the Pakistani party is from Karachi, but even then accents are not identical to Indian accents. I'm not sure what country you are from, but Pakistani people are generally very cleanly. We tend to be generally more religious overall than Afghans and Turks in western countries and thus do vazu multiple times a day.

I've met Afghans and Turks that make fun of us for washing ourselves with water as opposed to toilet paper which they insisted on using. So how can you say we are dirty people, when you Afghans conform to western society to the point where you can't even clean yourselves properly?

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

I noticed that men who speak Indic languages tend to have higher more feminine voices in general. And when they speak urdu or hindi or bengali they sound like they're queer.

Also, sounding like a woman is not "more developed" unless you have curves like a Lexus .....in other words, unless you're actually a woman.

[Dost]

I noticed that men who speak Indic languages tend to have higher more feminine voices in general. And when they speak urdu or hindi or bengali they sound like they're queer.

Also, sounding like a woman is not "more developed" unless you have curves like a Lexus .....in other words, unless you're actually a woman.

Punjabi is a rough language and does not sound feminine. Urdu and farsi does sound extra flamboyant.

[salman47]

That's funny, because I've always thought of Turkish as a really ugly language. I can understand non-Pashtuns disliking our language, as it is in many ways quite archaic, with lots of initial consonant clusters, uncommon sounds like retroflexes, and a terse sound compared to other Indo-Iranian languages, but Turkic languages as a whole don't sound very good.

I have lived in Turkey as a student for 2 years, so far I have started loving the language. Their grammar is lovely(a lot of one word sentences and stuff).
The thing that pisses me off about Turkey's Turkish is too many loanwords(e.g. Arabic, French, Parsi etc..)
Some interesting things are the shared Pashto and Turkish vocabulary(only common to these two languages)

[salman47]

Wow, you sound like an absolute liar. Pakistani Urdu accent is not the same as Indian Hindi accent at all. Unless, perhaps the Pakistani party is from Karachi, but even then accents are not identical to Indian accents. I'm not sure what country you are from, but Pakistani people are generally very cleanly. We tend to be generally more religious overall than Afghans and Turks in western countries and thus do vazu multiple times a day.

I've met Afghans and Turks that make fun of us for washing ourselves with water as opposed to toilet paper which they insisted on using. So how can you say we are dirty people, when you Afghans conform to western society to the point where you can't even clean yourselves properly?

'liar' - just swallow the bitter truth.
Also it wasn't me who said it but my Turkish friend who worked in Turkmenistan with Indian floormates.

I said Indian/Pakistanis because to me Pakistanis(85%) = Indians

P.S. The other 15% are from KPK/Balochistan/Afghanistan/Iran

Pakistanis and Indians together as best friends everywhere, so what's your actual problem? Why do you think you're not from India or that Pakistani Punjabi/Sindhi/bla bla are different from the same people across the border? You speak the exact same language as well, clothes are same as well. Travel everyday across the border as well! Etc..

My little background: I am from 'Pakistan' side of Pashtunistan, and I think almost all of the Indian languages(Urdu e.g.) sound very bad/annoying/unpleasant to my ears!!
Also I studied Urdu with full hatred in heart(the hatred was "direct quote from childhood": 'why do they force me to learn this ****ty language? No one even speaks it!, why not Pashto?')
Where I lived, I don't recall anyone speaking a word of Urdu!
I spent some of my childhood in Afghanistan, and some in Pakistan.

[Traveller]

'liar' - just swallow the bitter truth.
Also it wasn't me who said it but my Turkish friend who worked in Turkmenistan with Indian floormates.

I said Indian/Pakistanis because to me Pakistanis(85%) = Indians

P.S. The other 15% are from KPK/Balochistan/Afghanistan/Iran

Pakistanis and Indians together as best friends everywhere, so what's your actual problem? Why do you think you're not from India or that Pakistani Punjabi/Sindhi/bla bla are different from the same people across the border? You speak the exact same language as well, clothes are same as well. Travel everyday across the border as well! Etc..

My little background: I am from 'Pakistan' side of Pashtunistan, and I think almost all of the Indian languages(Urdu e.g.) sound very bad/annoying/unpleasant to my ears!!
Also I studied Urdu with full hatred in heart(the hatred was "direct quote from childhood": 'why do they force me to learn this ****ty language? No one even speaks it!, why not Pashto?')
Where I lived, I don't recall anyone speaking a word of Urdu!
I spent some of my childhood in Afghanistan, and some in Pakistan.

Where exactly in the Pakistani side of the Durand Line are you from? If I may ask.

[Samandri]

Wow, you sound like an absolute liar. Pakistani Urdu accent is not the same as Indian Hindi accent at all. Unless, perhaps the Pakistani party is from Karachi, but even then accents are not identical to Indian accents. I'm not sure what country you are from, but Pakistani people are generally very cleanly. We tend to be generally more religious overall than Afghans and Turks in western countries and thus do vazu multiple times a day.

I've met Afghans and Turks that make fun of us for washing ourselves with water as opposed to toilet paper which they insisted on using. So how can you say we are dirty people, when you Afghans conform to western society to the point where you can't even clean yourselves properly?

Dost is habitual liar, dont believe him. Punjabis themselves acknowledge that most of them dont offer prayers and many dont fast in Ramadan. Any regular nimazi is labelled "maulvi" in Punjabi society. In any mixed gathering, Pashtuns will offer prayers , Punjabis wont. In fact Punjabis have saying "Pathan Janay Ramazan Janay" meaning Roza/sawm is thing of Pathans not us. But they are not the most unclean people in Pakistan, that award goes to rural Sindhis.

I have heard Punjabis become more Hindu-ish and Sikh-ish when they settle in western countries. They return to their roots, the "desi-pan"