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According to the prevailing scientific view homosexuality is not a choice but people are born homosexual so how can you blame someone for being true to their nature? That is of course if you accept the western scientific view and reject the islamic view.Originally posted by Karachi View Postbeing liberal does not mean one has to support certain things, there is no black and white rule about being liberal. For example I know many atheists who are against homosexuality . Also, just because muslims are against homosexuality in public, does not mean against it, because we all know that homosexual acts are a huge problem in the muslim world, they are just hidden on purpose. Why doesn't anyone talk about it or fix it?
What is there to talk about? As far as I know according to the Islamic view people can be attracted to the same gender but the line is crossed when people make it a physical thing and act on their desires and if these acts are carried out openly where others in sociefy can be influenced them the culprits are punished for spreading unnatural behaviour and indecency.
The Islamic stance is clear on it but ofcourse there are exceptions to every rule.
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Science is not 100%, even scientists wil admit that, science is ever evolving. Issue of homosexuality is a very debated subject. I still have huge doubts that a person is born Gay, because sexuality itself is developed later in life, whatever the cause maybe, the likely hood of someone being born gay is very littleOriginally posted by Shapur View PostAccording to the prevailing scientific view homosexuality is not a choice but people are born homosexual so how can you blame someone for being true to their nature? That is of course if you accept the western scientific view and reject the islamic view.
What is there to talk about? As far as I know according to the Islamic view people can be attracted to the same gender but the line is crossed when people make it a physical thing and act on their desires and if these acts are carried out openly where others in sociefy can be influenced them the culprits are punished for spreading unnatural behaviour and indecency.
The Islamic stance is clear on it but ofcourse there are exceptions to every rule.
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I don't think it's actually entirely accurate to say sexuality is developed "later in life" , sexuality is developing through out life and perhaps matures into active pursuit of sexual relationships later in life. But children do have a certain degree of sexual awareness, albeit developing.Originally posted by Karachi View PostScience is not 100%, even scientists wil admit that, science is ever evolving. Issue of homosexuality is a very debated subject. I still have huge doubts that a person is born Gay, because sexuality itself is developed later in life, whatever the cause maybe, the likely hood of someone being born gay is very little
The evidence suggests that homosexuality is more in born, because predictively if it was learned, the relative ratio of homosexuals wouldn't be consistently between 1-3% of any population, especially in environments that villify homosexuality ardently, but we find in both more accepting and non-accepting societies it still hovers around these numbers.
Also, as economist Kaushik Basu says: "For a nation to progress it is important for people to spend time on science, mathematics and literature instead of spending time showing that 5,000 years ago their ancestors did science, mathematics and literature."
Originally posted by ذو الفقارdon’t try to be smart.
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Without actual DATA and proper research and not some self hating Indic that wished he was Pashtun until he got chastised for it, picking out random numbers, there's no way we can know for certain how common gay sex or sexual acts are common. We can only say they exist but it doesn't measure likelihood. To say otherwise is Moronic sensationalism ....and only makes the person making such claims seem rather well ....autistic ..and not the savant kind.Originally posted by Karachi View PostThen why is Gay sex and sexual acts so common in those countries though?
Also, as economist Kaushik Basu says: "For a nation to progress it is important for people to spend time on science, mathematics and literature instead of spending time showing that 5,000 years ago their ancestors did science, mathematics and literature."
Originally posted by ذو الفقارdon’t try to be smart.
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Did you decide one day to be attracted to girls or was it something natural?Originally posted by Karachi View PostScience is not 100%, even scientists wil admit that, science is ever evolving. Issue of homosexuality is a very debated subject. I still have huge doubts that a person is born Gay, because sexuality itself is developed later in life, whatever the cause maybe, the likely hood of someone being born gay is very little
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