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    63-Year-Old Graduates With Pashto Language Degree - YouTube

    63 year old can get a degree in Pashto language and we have young people with access to internet and a fresh brain who complain aboug how hard it is to learn Pashto.

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    the main problem is the attitude of the pashto language.

    Many people in AFG and PAK think Pashto is a useless language.

    when they become developed and educated, they slowly forget pashto and adopt Dari or URdu as their new language instead.

    Also counting Pashtuns moving in the west, who are now moving on to English, and sometimes Danish, German, Dutch, Spanish if they land in Europe.

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    • #3
      ^ that is not necessarily true. People can barely afford education at university level in places like Afghanistan or Pakistan. What sort of a job can you get with a degree in language arts?? You can be a writer or a teacher. Teachers in Afghanistan don't get paid for 6 months at times.one person working on a third world country is responsible for feeding a household of 12. You try not having an income in a first world country for 6 months and tell me how you like it.

      If people are going to educate their children, it's going to be in a field that can get them jobs and salaries. Language arts have nothing promising in it and we can't afford the luxury of acquiring education in a field just for the pleasure of it.

      "To burn always with this hard gemlike flame, to maintain this ecstasy, is success in life."





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      • #4
        In the videos itself, the pashto part phonetically sounds so superior. Better than the farsi.. it's good for the neutrals to hear how the languages both sound side by side. What do neutrals think? What sounds better?
        Last edited by Elite Pakhtun; 01-19-2017, 04:33 PM.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Elite Pakhtun View Post
          In the videos itself, the pashto part phonetically sounds so superior. Better than the farsi.. it's good for the neutrals to hear how the languages both sound side by side. What do neutrals think? What sounds better?
          Farsi is phonetically superior to dari and southern pashto is phonetically superior to northen pashto, everything else is subjective.

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          • #6
            maktab= school when you are educated in A language you will stop using loanwords, we all say school without thinking about it.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by kanishka View Post
              the main problem is the attitude of the pashto language.

              Many people in AFG and PAK think Pashto is a useless language.

              when they become developed and educated, they slowly forget pashto and adopt Dari or URdu as their new language instead.

              Also counting Pashtuns moving in the west, who are now moving on to English, and sometimes Danish, German, Dutch, Spanish if they land in Europe.
              The problem is that in Pakistan, Pashto is a minority regional language which has no use in any walk of life other than being the mother tongue of 15% Pakistanis. There is no desire in Pakhtunkhwa among the politicians or common people to make Pashto the language of science, technology, culture and work for advancement of Pashto. There is no incentive in learning Pashto because you are never going to need it for education, job other than for speaking it as an oral language. Unless this situation changes and Urdu is discarded as the national language, Pashto and other Pakistani languages will keep suffering for the sake of so called national unity.

              In Afghanistan, low literacy rates among Pashtuns and the domination of Farsi as a historical lingua franca by all non Pashtuns is a problem. In Farah where 75% plus of the population is Pashtun there are only a few Pashto medium schools. In the north where there are millions of pashtun communities scattered around, there are no pashto medium schools, although Pashto is taught as a language like English. It is the government's job to give people a reason to learn and use Pashto in everyday life in all spheres of life.

              I don't see a bright future for Pashto language unless Pashtuns on both sides wake up and ask for their basic rights.

              Originally posted by Kakar-Wardak View Post
              maktab= school when you are educated in A language you will stop using loanwords, we all say school without thinking about it.
              Maktab is from Arabic Kitab (book), madrasah is also Arabic term. The Pashto term is "khunzai" or "Shunzai" for school.
              The term for class is not "sinf" which pashtuns in Afghanistan use which is a Farsi term but "Tolgai".
              Last edited by Shapur; 01-20-2017, 06:12 PM.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Shapur View Post
                Maktab is from Arabic Kitab (book), madrasah is also Arabic term. The Pashto term is "khunzai" or "Shunzai" for school.
                The term for class is not "sinf" which pashtuns in Afghanistan use which is a Farsi term but "Tolgai".
                thanks i didnt know about khunzai, though i had heard the word tolgai before. I wish i could learn proper pashto but i dont have any resources, right now all i know is oral pashto the way its spoken in our village though to be fair our pashto is better than most other areas of kpk based on my own observations

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Shapur View Post
                  The problem is that in Pakistan, Pashto is a minority regional language which has no use in any walk of life other than being the mother tongue of 15% Pakistanis. There is no desire in Pakhtunkhwa among the politicians or common people to make Pashto the language of science, technology, culture and work for advancement of Pashto. There is no incentive in learning Pashto because you are never going to need it for education, job other than for speaking it as an oral language. Unless this situation changes and Urdu is discarded as the national language, Pashto and other Pakistani languages will keep suffering for the sake of so called national unity.

                  In Afghanistan, low literacy rates among Pashtuns and the domination of Farsi as a historical lingua franca by all non Pashtuns is a problem. In Farah where 75% plus of the population is Pashtun there are only a few Pashto medium schools. In the north where there are millions of pashtun communities scattered around, there are no pashto medium schools, although Pashto is taught as a language like English. It is the government's job to give people a reason to learn and use Pashto in everyday life in all spheres of life.

                  I don't see a bright future for Pashto language unless Pashtuns on both sides wake up and ask for their basic rights.



                  Maktab is from Arabic Kitab (book), madrasah is also Arabic term. The Pashto term is "khunzai" or "Shunzai" for school.
                  The term for class is not "sinf" which pashtuns in Afghanistan use which is a Farsi term but "Tolgai".

                  Why, Shapur? Afghan government encouraged and backed Pashto for decades yet Pashto did not become a strong language.

                  You see guys here is where Pashtunism fails miserably: Pashtun nationalism and Pashtun identity stress a lot on ethnic pride. Pashtuns are proud of their ethnicity but they underestimate culture. ON the other hand Tajiks don't give a cr*p about their ethnicity but when it comes to their culture they are the most nationalist people in the world. Culture beats ethnicity/race. If you guys want your culture to survive you need to focus more on it and less on ethnicity. Just saying.
                  "For thirty years, I endured much pain and strife,
                  I awaken the Ajam by this Persian [language]. "

                  -Ferdowsi.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Firdousi View Post
                    Why, Shapur? Afghan government encouraged and backed Pashto for decades yet Pashto did not become a strong language
                    Why not? When Pashtuns vote for someone, they expect that government to protect our language and allocate resources from the national budget towards that end. If it wasn't for the backing of the Ghaznavid king "Shahnama" would never have got published. You see it requires money and support from the state to keep a language alive by implementing it at state level. Pashto is the mother tongue of some 45 million people. It's not some minor language. Where ever there are Pashtuns in Afghanistan, they should be able to get educated in their mother tongue. It is a basic human right. Same goes for other languages which have high number of speakers. Pashto is not strong because Pakistan where 60% of Pashtuns live, it is not being used as it sbould be and low literacy rate in Afghanistan. Pashtuns need to wake up before it is too late.

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                    • #11
                      Great News and Abdulwadod has six sons and four daughters and all of them are educated. But he said none of his children’s graduation ceremonies were as exciting as his own.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Firdousi View Post
                        Why, Shapur? Afghan government encouraged and backed Pashto for decades yet Pashto did not become a strong language.

                        You see guys here is where Pashtunism fails miserably: Pashtun nationalism and Pashtun identity stress a lot on ethnic pride. Pashtuns are proud of their ethnicity but they underestimate culture. ON the other hand Tajiks don't give a cr*p about their ethnicity but when it comes to their culture they are the most nationalist people in the world. Culture beats ethnicity/race. If you guys want your culture to survive you need to focus more on it and less on ethnicity. Just saying.
                        What would you say is the difference between ethnicity and culture? Wouldn't you say ethnicity carries culture with it? Very interesting observation.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Charsi Malang View Post
                          What would you say is the difference between ethnicity and culture? Wouldn't you say ethnicity carries culture with it? Very interesting observation.
                          I am just saying that culture beats ethnicity. Pashtuns and Tajiks are just a "confederation" of several tribes of different origin. What defines a Tajik is his Persian language, his culture and his heritage. Yeah ethnicity is quite important but not as much as we believe.

                          When I come across other Persianspeakers that makes me happy. But when I come across a Persianspeaker with a Herati accent that makes my day. Language is a key element of nationalism. If you can't speak Farsi you can't be a Tajik. Same rule applies for Pashtuns.
                          "For thirty years, I endured much pain and strife,
                          I awaken the Ajam by this Persian [language]. "

                          -Ferdowsi.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Charsi Malang View Post
                            What would you say is the difference between ethnicity and culture? Wouldn't you say ethnicity carries culture with it? Very interesting observation.
                            Ethnicity can influence behaviour. So for instance an African immigrant to America can either: feel a part of the African-American community due to their shared race, or, feel that he doesn't want to associate with them just because they might be of the same race.

                            I don't get on with a lot of Brit Pakistanis. Loads of them are funny and good people, but on a whole I don't feel a part. They're too religious often times.

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