If 1947 never happend ?

[Karachi]

Oh yes after years of hearing this line over and over again, you're really going to "shock" me now ...*yawn*

The existence of homosexuality in any society is already an agreed upon anthropological phenomena. But sexual orientation is not learned, it's innate. If there are gays, it's because biological signals cause them to be gay. So telling me "Gay Pashtuns exist" is not a shocker. Your claim is totally different, it's based on basically sensationalizing homosexuality as some social characteristic which is unscientific nonsense.

As for the members on the forums who go "Wah wah it's the Tajiks that are doing X, Y Z..." it's mainly members like Afghanfootball, Aryana and Kushan Prince. Bacha Bazi or Pederasty is as prevalent in India as it is anywhere else in the world. Even your hero Ranjit Singh and all your Maharajas were known known for it.

A tradition of quiet tolerance : Cover Story - India Today 3�122�13

where else in the world would you find almost 50% of men involved in Bacha Bazi and pedophilia? this is a cultural problem you guys have, like I said, the west has only found this in the 10 years or so, we in pakistan have known this Pashtun behavior since decades, thats why there are so many gay jokes about Pashtuns in Pakistan

Also no this is happening anywhere else, especially in this huge numbers/percentage

and did you even read that article you moron, it is talking about how muslim Mughals preferred boys and hindus didn't. This clearly shows what I am talking about. This activity is present among muslims, especially from your region. Hindus were much more civilized even back then

and you seem to defending this practice, either you were sodomized by an old man, or you yourself are involved in this, considering the percentage of people involved in this dirty practice, I wouldn't surprised if you were

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

where else in the world would you find almost 50% of men involved in Bacha Bazi and pedophilia? this is a cultural problem you guys have, like I said, the west has only found this in the 10 years or so, we in pakistan have known this Pashtun behavior since decades, thats why there are so many gay jokes about Pashtuns in Pakistan

Also no this is happening anywhere else, especially in this huge numbers/percentage

and did you even read that article you moron, it is talking about how muslim Mughals preferred boys and hindus didn't. This clearly shows what I am talking about. This activity is present among muslims, especially from your region. Hindus were much more civilized even back then

and you seem to defending this practice, either you were sodomized by an old man, or you yourself are involved in this, considering the percentage of people involved in this dirty practice, I wouldn't surprised if you were

Where else in the world would some Self Hating Pakistani pulls arbitrary and unsubstantiated statistics out of their tail pipe?

If you think pederasty is being defended; that's your own internal desire being projected here. Looks like you just revealed some facts about yourself. The Kamasutra describes sex with animals, of course for a mentally colonized Desi this would be the peak of civilization.

[Win Butler]

Indians and Pakis should not act as if they have the moral high ground on matters of sexual deviancy.

Gang rape videos are being sold in India

Gang rape videos are being sold in a northern Indian state, according to authorities who believe rapists are using cellphone clips as a way to keep their victims quiet.

The Times of India first reported on the recordings, which are fetching 50 to 150 rupees, or 75 cents to $2, in Uttar Pradesh, which has seen a spate of recent rapes that have triggered public calls for its chief minister to resign. The clips are being sold "under the counter", according to the newspaper, to people who come with a customer's "reference", and also via social media. They range in length from 30 seconds to as long as five minutes.

"Porn is passe. These real life crimes are the rage," an unnamed shopkeeper in Agra, home of the Taj Majal, told the Times of India. It reported that police believe the videos are used as blackmail, to prevent victims from reporting the crimes, or to pressure them into further acts.

India's problem with sexual violence has generated intense scrutiny since the fatal 2012 gang rape of a woman on a Delhi bus. Mass protests erupted, forcing the government to respond with stiffer penalties. Repeat rape offenders can now be sentenced to death, and stalking has been criminalized.

Uttar Pradesh is among the most dangerous states in India for women. In 2014, there 337,922 reports of violence against women, a 9 percent jump from the previous year, according to official statistics.

Last week, a woman and her 14-year-old daughter were dragged from their vehicle at gunpoint and gang-raped for hours, Reuters reported. And this week, according to the Indian Express, the gang rape of another woman was recorded on a mobile phone. The term #LawlessUP has been trending on Twitter, as calls for Chief Minister Akhilesh Yadav to resign amplify. On Thursday, nine men were arrested for allegedly downloading and selling the videos, International Business Times reported.

Gang rape videos are being sold in India | VICE News

[Manzareh]

There was only one 1-2 bacha bazi threads in all those years, and most of you were blaming Tajiks for the problem, this is far from the truth, we all know about this Pashtun behavior in Pakistan since decades. In fact the Pakistani moms always have said to their kids (boys) to hide them from Pashtun men, because of this dirty reputation of yours

Bachabazi is not a Pashtun phrase. Our claims are backed up by references, your claims are just random thoughts, emotional rants, personal feelings etc nothing credible and no sources.

Filthy sexual stuff does happen in Pakistan and India i'd say its more of a regional problem than a racial one. Look in the mirror at your face, you fit the stereo type of a dirty perverted paki.

Also what are you doing on a Pashtun forum?? you just be crying in every post, emotional wreck

[Karachi]

Where else in the world would some Self Hating Pakistani pulls arbitrary and unsubstantiated statistics out of their tail pipe?

If you think pederasty is being defended; that's your own internal desire being projected here. Looks like you just revealed some facts about yourself. The Kamasutra describes sex with animals, of course for a mentally colonized Desi this would be the peak of civilization.

The 50% Pashtun bacha bazi thing is very well document: Bacha Bazi: An Afghan Tragedy | Foreign Policy

There are so many sources on this, also again and again, we in Pakistan have known this for very long

and Kamasutra was just one book, written by one guy

[Karachi]

Indians and Pakis should not act as if they have the moral high ground on matters of sexual deviancy.

Gang rape videos are being sold in India



Gang rape videos are being sold in India | VICE News

Yes these things happen and are bad, but despite how much bad (rape) is, a man having sex with a woman is a normal thing, but old men having sex with young boys is a completely abnormal behavior, even worse when parents are selling these boys to these old men, what kind of horrible behvoiur is that?

[Karachi]

Bachabazi is not a Pashtun phrase. Our claims are backed up by references, your claims are just random thoughts, emotional rants, personal feelings etc nothing credible and no sources.

Filthy sexual stuff does happen in Pakistan and India i'd say its more of a regional problem than a racial one. Look in the mirror at your face, you fit the stereo type of a dirty perverted paki.

Also what are you doing on a Pashtun forum?? you just be crying in every post, emotional wreck

Please have a look at my link, it is very much a pashtun and central asian thing, it only happens there

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

The 50% Pashtun bacha bazi thing is very well document: Bacha Bazi: An Afghan Tragedy | Foreign Policy

There are so many sources on this, also again and again, we in Pakistan have known this for very long

and Kamasutra was just one book, written by one guy

Didn't you say Foreign Policy published a nonsense article when it came to that Pakistan vs India thread? Now you're using Foreign Policy as your source.

Well sir, if you called them nonsense before; Then they're nonsense now too.You can't have it both ways.

In this specific case it is nonsense; There's absolutely no research in this article or any sound statistics. It's basically pulled out of the air like yours. It relies on same nonsense articles used in their propaganda agenda in the Early Afghan invasion. just as I stated before.

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

Yes these things happen and are bad, but despite how much bad (rape) is, a man having sex with a woman is a normal thing,

So you're trying to normalize rape but then say you're trying to help Pashtuns progress. you're quite an imbecile. There's nothing normal about rape.

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

Please have a look at my link, it is very much a pashtun and central asian thing, it only happens there

Homosexuality In India By Namit Arora

In ancient India, according to the Kakars, homosexual activity "was ignored or stigmatized as inferior but never actively persecuted." While mild punishment is advocated by some books, "it was the homosexual and not homosexual activity that evoked society's scorn," with homosexuals seen as deficient and objects of "pity, dismay and revulsion" because of their inability to marry and father children, a sense that persists to this day. But the Kamasutra, which reflects elite attitudes of its day, even dwells on homosexual fellatio in sensual terms. Temples at Khajuraho and elsewhere openly depict homosexual acts.

[Karachi]

Didn't you say Foreign Policy published a nonsense article when it came to that Pakistan vs India thread? Now you're using Foreign Policy as your source.

Well sir, if you called them nonsense before; Then they're nonsense now too.You can't have it both ways.

In this specific case it is nonsense; There's absolutely no research in this article or any sound statistics. It's basically pulled out of the air like yours. It relies on same nonsense articles used in their propaganda agenda in the Early Afghan invasion. just as I stated before.

Not just foreign Policy, there are many articles on this subject, of course even if it is 30-40%, it is still a huge number of boys getting raped by old men

here another article: Afghanistan's dirty little secret - SFGate

^ clearly this practice is very wide spread and part of your culture, even so called Taliban didn't really stop it, because they knew it was part of the culture

[Karachi]

So you're trying to normalize rape but then say you're trying to help Pashtuns progress. you're quite an imbecile. There's nothing normal about rape.

idiot mullah, I said Men are attracted to women, nothing about rape being right, only pedophiles are attracted to young boys, your culture has a huge problem with pedophlia, it's not even hidden, everyone knows about this

With you denying everything, you are hiding everything, so this will continue for another 1000 years, fix your cultural problems

[Karachi]

Homosexuality In India By Namit Arora

This is nothing man, this is not bacha bazi, no matter how hard you try, you can never make Indians practice bacha bazi, Indians love women too much

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

Not just foreign Policy, there are many articles on this subject, of course even if it is 30-40%, it is still a huge number of boys getting raped by old men

here another article: Afghanistan's dirty little secret - SFGate

^ clearly this practice is very wide spread and part of your culture, even so called Taliban didn't really stop it, because they knew it was part of the culture

Foreign Policy uses this same article you just cited in their article; Sorry dude, you know nothing about Afghanistan except what's filtered to you from Media. Get out and see the world more.

Instead of sensationalizing pederasty, why don't you stop yourself from trying to take advantage of 14 year old girls from the internet by walking into their house naked.

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

This is nothing man, this is not bacha bazi, no matter how hard you try, you can never make Indians practice bacha bazi, Indians love women too much

You went from arguing, raping women is normal becauise it's a man doing it to a women, but men among men makes it worse, now you're back peddling and saying this is different. What do you think they had age restrictions for gay relations in ancient India? Get a clue.