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  • #16
    Originally posted by Sher Khan
    hazaras and tajiks are known as afghans as well.If they differentiate by the term afghanistani , I would be willing to call myself afghan.
    ok now i will tell one think
    if we do the country of pashton's
    then if there was some tajik want live with us or any one after 5 year's he will get the pashton nationalty right
    ?
    then what u gona do

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    • #17
      Originally posted by MazloomYarMasud View Post
      Zu Loy Pashtunkhwa Pashtoon yem

      Pakistan is a Indian Ismaili Mojjahir state made for Mojjahirs(MQM) from India to settle.

      Afghansitan is too much mixed with tajiks and Uzbeks and Pashtuns made second class citizens.

      A Loy Pakhtunkhwa will eliminate traitorous Pashtuns.

      SOM, I understand that your government background will be effected but hey you should never solely think for your ownself!

      Kind Regards
      wrora, its my humble request...plz do not reply my posts, same i will do.
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      • #18
        Originally posted by amna View Post
        Tajik,Uzbek are Afghan by nationalityand citizenship.

        We Pashtuns are Afghan by ethnic group Sher.
        smart

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Son of Mountains View Post
          it seems an effort to teach the pashtuns of peshawar that Pashtun=Afghan! Dont mind plz, but i said which was in my mind
          Hindkomars control Peshawer so I wouldnt call it a solely pure Pashtun state anyway.

          Plus no offence there are too much of ranjit singhs legacy in Peshawer especially those who are native to the place called Peshawer.

          In Loy Pakhtunkhwa, I would make Khost as the cultural capital because Pashtuns from Khost have to be one of the most Hardcore Pashtuns I have ever met!

          I dont like the Nazia IQbal types of Peshawer no offence.

          Kind Regards

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Son of Mountains View Post
            wrora, its my humble request...plz do not reply my posts, same i will do.
            Then why do you post on a public forum? Don't twist Pashtun identity to fit your circumstances.
            Last edited by Toramana; 08-03-2010, 09:38 AM.

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            • #21
              How can somebody accept Pakistan as their state?

              Pakistan was made for Indian Mojjahirs such as MQM to avoid the resentment of their fellow Hindu Brothers(Biologically).

              Pashtuns who support Pakistan have a gain from it such as money.

              Kind Regards

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              • #22
                Originally posted by amna View Post
                Tajik,Uzbek are Afghan by nationalityand citizenship.

                We Pashtuns are Afghan by ethnic group Sher.
                Ohoo, so what difference does that make? It still cannot distnguish you from non-Pashtuns because it is not unique to Pashtuns. Just jugglary of words would not hide the fundamental flaws with the term "Afghan" i.e., foreign-ness, non-uniqueness, secondary-ness, etc.

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                • #23
                  I think people are being confused with two things.

                  A pashtun from Pashtunkhwa (Pakistan) is not an Afghan national. Whereas he is Afghan by ethnicity and the whole world knows the relationship of pashtuns with Afghanistan. They are intertwined but separated by a fake border, well it is real but anywayz...

                  So in official terms many pashtuns are not Afghan nationals nor can they claim to be if their village is situated in Pakistan side (pukhtunkhwa)
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                  • #24
                    I understand your point...

                    Coz when you say pashtun at least there is no confusion, you are PASHTUN.
                    But when you say you are Afghan well there are non-Pashtun Afghans as well, whether they are not by ethnicity or watever, they are Afghan and have Afghan passports
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                    • #25
                      We should have a Pashtun federation whereby every tribe is represented in government of Loy Pakhtunkhwa and there should be no Political Capital. There should be no restriction of movement of all tribes, so if a pashtun from Swat wants to settle in Waziristan, he/she should be allowed same with Maseeds settling in Mardan or dir etc.

                      There should be no classism or monarchy or this non sense kings and queens.

                      Relgion should be a choice of the individual and kept out of Politics.

                      All Pushto dialects would be taught to every pashtun so there is common understanding.

                      there would be no tribal lashkar representing a particular tribe or region.

                      There would be one Pashtun army compromising solely of Pashtuns of all tribes.

                      Kind Regards

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                      • #26
                        There is a huge difference between being an Afghan national and an ethnic Afghan. Even an Ethiopian can be granted Afghan nationality. There are thousands of Germans living in Romania and the Czech Republic and they're the nationals of their respective states but are German by nation.

                        Pashtuns were refereed to as Afghan by outsiders for various reasons. The lands considered Afghan were predominantly Pashtun and there were neighboring minority nations that came roughly from the same genetic stock and shared common cultural characteristics.

                        However, a Pashtun is always a Pashtun first. Like in that song, ze Pashtun yam, Pashtunkhwa yam. He can be a national of the state of Afghanistan, the national of the Pakistani state, an American citizen, an honorary war-chief of the Cherokee but that won't change that fact that a Pashto-speaker is a Pashtun and not an Afghani or Pathani speaker.



                        Kind Pashtun Regards.
                        "If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be".

                        "Knowledge will forever govern ignorance; and a people who mean to be their own governors must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives".

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                        • #27
                          Pashto will be the official language

                          English would be the mediem Language

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                          • #28
                            Ohoooooooo dalta munga muslaman yu Parsiwan zmung runa di

                            F-----------ck punjbyan ao Pakistan........

                            ka dasey MUNAFIQAY MUNAFIQAY Lekam

                            nu NOKIA Da tolo da Sar taj da..................

                            Wooooooooor da bal shi pa PArsiwanu ao

                            ZA KA MASRA KHUDAY PAK HEM SAWDA KAWE DA

                            A****__N PA NUM ZA DUZAKH TA ZAM KHU DA NUM PA ZAN


                            NA EGDAM (KAGDAM)

                            TAL DA WI

                            PUKHTUNWALI

                            TAL DA WI LOYA PUKHTUNKHWA.


                            MARG DA WI PARSIWANu
                            .....


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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Nokia_Apridy View Post
                              Ohoooooooo dalta munga muslaman yu Parsiwan zmung runa di

                              F-----------ck punjbyan ao Pakistan........

                              ka dasey MUNAFIQAY MUNAFIQAY Lekam

                              nu NOKIA Da tolo da Sar taj da..................

                              Wooooooooor da bal shi pa PArsiwanu ao

                              ZA KA MASRA KHUDAY PAK HEM SAWDA KAWE DA

                              A****__N PA NUM ZA DUZAKH TA ZAM KHU DA NUM PA ZAN

                              NA EGDAM (KAGDAM)

                              TAL DA WI

                              PUKHTUNWALI

                              TAL DA WI LOYA PUKHTUNKHWA.

                              MARG DA WI PARSIWANu
                              Yu wakht woo chee ma will Nokia afridi Deer Bard kasa woo

                              viz chee kala mu tu comments and views clearly wakatal

                              ma will chee Nokia deeeeeer sakth asleee aow sarm Pashtin Dai

                              Deera Manana mu grana vrora

                              Za deer Khwashul yam chee ta(Nokia) pa speena zra sara Zagayzay.

                              Kind Regards

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                              • #30
                                afghan means pashtun
                                so it´s the same
                                but why pakistani ??

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