Why the hate for Pakistan?

[life1234]

Okay so I realise there are some Anti-Pakistani settlement in Afghanistan but I'd like to know why. My dad went to Kabul before any war with the Russian Taliban whatever happened and said it was such a nice place before, but now all I hear is bad talk about Pakistan.

Here are few reasons which I know briefly

1)Pakistan interference with Afghanistan (Taliban, Mujahideen etc)

That's probably about it, also that you guys don't like the way Punjabis are religious/culturally, but thats about it, Pakistan has taken in 3.5million refugees from Afghanistan, unless you argue it's part of Pashtunistan, so what exactly is your hate for pakistan. someone explain, what is you guys just look on punjabis or something, it is some age old Pashtuns vs Punjabi rivalry or something
Before you start I'm pretty ignorant to the situation.

[Shamlawar Khurasani]

Aside from Pakistan's nefarious foreign policy, there are other reasons why many Afghans hate Pakistan.

The Afghan secular government of royal family was established by secularist followers of Atta Turk. Amanullah Khan was a Europhile who worshipped Western people, their ideas and their values. After him, his successors tried to import nationalism in Afghanistan and brainwash Afghans into believing in this sick and perverted ideology.

The royal family, especially after the coup of Daud Khan, nationalism was spread aggressively. Hatred for others is an essential part of nationalism. One cannot be a nationalist without having an irrational hatred for some other group.

It's quite similar to what Ernesto Che Gueverra, despite being from an aristocratic European family in Argentina, he traveled accross South and Central America, and then later Africa to spread irrational and blind hatred for a specific class in every society.

This blind and irrational hatred for people and irrational "love" for another is romanticism. It is a product of French enlightenment.

Afghans are contaminated with this disease just like Pakistanis. Look at how Pakistanis blindly hate and despise Hindus while they both have the same culture, language, traditions, heritage and even some religious beliefs like idol worship.

[life1234]

Aside from Pakistan's nefarious foreign policy, there are other reasons why many Afghans hate Pakistan.

The Afghan secular government of royal family was established by secularist followers of Atta Turk. Amanullah Khan was a Europhile who worshipped Western people, their ideas and their values. After him, his successors tried to import nationalism in Afghanistan and brainwash Afghans into believing in this sick and perverted ideology.

The royal family, especially after the coup of Daud Khan, nationalism was spread aggressively. Hatred for others is an essential part of nationalism. One cannot be a nationalist without having an irrational hatred for some other group.

It's quite similar to what Ernesto Che Gueverra, despite being from an aristocratic European family in Argentina, he traveled accross South and Central America, and then later Africa to spread irrational and blind hatred for a specific class in every society.

This blind and irrational hatred for people and irrational "love" for another is romanticism. It is a product of French enlightenment.

Afghans are contaminated with this disease just like Pakistanis. Look at how Pakistanis blindly hate and despise Hindus while they both have the same culture, language, traditions, heritage and even some religious beliefs like idol worship.

Interesting post Shamlawar, so what are your personal opinions on PAK?

[Shamlawar Khurasani]

I don't believe in nation-states. I despise the secular criminal military ruling elite of Pakistan and their satanic ideology of Pakistani nationalism. I am disgusted by the so-called Pakistani Islamists and other Pakistani political parties who are experts in deception and treachery.

But the people in Pakistan are human beings. Human beings are of all kinds and types. Some are good others are bad.

[Karachi]

Okay so I realise there are some Anti-Pakistani settlement in Afghanistan but I'd like to know why. My dad went to Kabul before any war with the Russian Taliban whatever happened and said it was such a nice place before, but now all I hear is bad talk about Pakistan.

Here are few reasons which I know briefly

1)Pakistan interference with Afghanistan (Taliban, Mujahideen etc)

That's probably about it, also that you guys don't like the way Punjabis are religious/culturally, but thats about it, Pakistan has taken in 3.5million refugees from Afghanistan, unless you argue it's part of Pashtunistan, so what exactly is your hate for pakistan. someone explain, what is you guys just look on punjabis or something, it is some age old Pashtuns vs Punjabi rivalry or something
Before you start I'm pretty ignorant to the situation.

Punjabis are not religious, they are jahil and hypocrites. The biggest proof of this is where (heera mandi) is located, just beside the biggest mosque of Lahore

[ANAcommander]

Punjabis are not religious, they are jahil and hypocrites. The biggest proof of this is were (heera mandi) is located, just the biggest mosque of Lahore

Did a punjabi pimp your mother from out of heera mandi?

[Karachi]

Did a punjabi pimp your mother from out of heera mandi?

No, your dad pimped your mother to heera mandi for a few bucks like how all punjabi men do

[tilla_jogian]

Karachi harami quoting to karachi harami?

[DSM0305]

Okay so I realise there are some Anti-Pakistani settlement in Afghanistan but I'd like to know why. My dad went to Kabul before any war with the Russian Taliban whatever happened and said it was such a nice place before, but now all I hear is bad talk about Pakistan.

Here are few reasons which I know briefly

1)Pakistan interference with Afghanistan (Taliban, Mujahideen etc)

That's probably about it, also that you guys don't like the way Punjabis are religious/culturally, but thats about it, Pakistan has taken in 3.5million refugees from Afghanistan, unless you argue it's part of Pashtunistan, so what exactly is your hate for pakistan. someone explain, what is you guys just look on punjabis or something, it is some age old Pashtuns vs Punjabi rivalry or something
Before you start I'm pretty ignorant to the situation.

To put simple and short, it because Pakistan is playing a double game in Afghanistan. In the one hand they support Taliban and in the other, they are working very closely with the US.

I don't have time to go in the details, but simply put; Those who support the government hate Pakistan for supporting the Taliban. Those who support the opposition, hate Pakistan for helping the US. Then there is the ordinary people who hate Pakistan for prolonging the war, in which their family and friends are dying, their property destroyed and they themselves dying from famine.

Its no picnic for the Afghan refugees in Pakistan. First of all, they're not provided anything from the government. Everything they have and achieved is due to their hard work in hard environment. Not to mention the harassment from the police and the locals. Despite their hard work and living in Pakistan for generation and many even born there, they haven't received Pakistani citizen. So the refugees living in Pakistan can hardly be considered a ''good deed'' from Pakistani side, since they haven't received any help from the Pakistani government. Anything they have there is due to their own work. Not to mention that the Pakistani government is using the refugees vulnerability for their own military gain. So one cannot use the refugee card to argue why Afghans have to love Pakistan. It just doesn't work that way.

Not to mention, under the Karzai government(a very anti Pakistan). Afghanistan accepted every single refugee from Pakistan, when Pakistan launched invasion against north wazirstan. They may not been at the same number as the Afghan refugee, but taking Afghanistan's situation at consideration, the Afghans literally took them whole heartedly every single one of them. Despite the Afghans themselves literally having nothing.

Beside those point I mention above. There is no ethnic, religiously, culturally or any other reason for the hate. One must understand that Afghans are losing loved ones in the war that Pakistan is fueling. I don't know whether you ever lost anyone in war, but the pain of it is unreal. And there is no amount of fake bhaiya propaganda that will fix the pain. You need to understand that a conflict like war is no joke, and you not expecting hatred(sorry to say it) is stupid.