Originally posted by Azmal
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Miss Libertas lol tell us how you preach for liberty sitting in belly of beast
Nice try Daruish LOOOL. Non sequitur arguments do not serve you well. Living in a place does not obligate one to not understand history and occupation being repeated. I am not Nicaraguan either nor am I a Catholic Irish but I certainly can understand what was done wrong by each involved imperial power to each peoples. This is just your lame classic persiofascist polemic that falls flat. Where your argument to apply then pretty much 50% if not more of the public here who want no part in either middle-eastern or central asian conflict would be "sitting in the belly of the beast."
and yet so easily surrender Afghans liberties to your beloved Taliban and their single party rule,
No Daruish, its simply that surrendering liberties to flat-heads and their acolytes and a group of greasy warmongers called the Kabul government is an equally retarded option though you present as simply one or the other.
and an array of centrally planned government policies seeking to control and regulate everything, from how to dress to socially engineering an Afghan culture? All your argument is under perception of they simply are the way things are.
Wrong again Daruish, there is no argument regarding anything. The very fact that Brits and others were able to exploit internal anger at, say Amanullah for instance, because he was dumb enough to try and make some Shinwaris wear top hats and vests to a totally irrelevent meeting amongst a series of other reactionary elements more than validates "things are the way they are."
You know atheist to believe that the world is utterly chaotic and random will see the world in precisely the same way as you do—yet you were calling me an atheist? Seriously, rather than being defensive about it, try and learn why I accuse you of having no understanding of the human condition.
Yet you are the one demanding societal engineering and by force implementing new "norms" that variate far far far away from what the indigenous norms ever permitted because you have wet dreams to reformulate all Afghan men into "Azmalian Man" Please, girl, go get a life and a job and quit living in your pseudo reality.
The fact is the ideology behind the groups like Taliban which sustains them all comes outside--- Deobandi School and many others of the type, Paki state-funded mufties, and Paki State sponsored Mullahs… None of these are indigenous to Afghans. Afghan/Pashtons being a proud nation/ethnicity with history going back thousands of years do not need a religious identity or use of religion as a means for acquiring political power either in Afghanistan or in Pakistan.
Refer that question to Ahmad Shah Abdali and his relationship with Waliullah as well as his sacrilege of the Amritsar temple. Also refer that question to Zeary Muhammad Saleh (communist) and pretty much every Afghan that really is a Pashtun (unlike you) and who has relatives in the rural areas as well as Kandahar or Nangrahar. You are totally out of touch with what it means to be a Pashtun. Rather, in your attempt to study us to pretend to be one of us, you reconstructed a non reality or a pseudo reality.
Anyways, facts upset the primitive minded, hence the cycles of repetitive vitriol they engage in as they surrender their sanity to oblivion.
Says the guy who pretty much labels anyone or anything that devastates his world view with facts, logic and history as a Pakistani sourced, CIA funded, etc etc. Your low intelligence arguments pretty much take the form of every known polemic used by persiofascists.
As expected, you will once again dodge the mainstay of what’s being said, only to revive your bs again as though this discussion had never occurred.
There is no need to dodge the mainstay of anything since you once again are not a part of the discussion due to your non relations to Pashtuns. You are simply another outsider attempting to "look in" with an agenda that demands ascendancy for your shamali/persiofascist flathead gorilla buddies.
Nice try Daruish LOOOL. Non sequitur arguments do not serve you well. Living in a place does not obligate one to not understand history and occupation being repeated. I am not Nicaraguan either nor am I a Catholic Irish but I certainly can understand what was done wrong by each involved imperial power to each peoples. This is just your lame classic persiofascist polemic that falls flat. Where your argument to apply then pretty much 50% if not more of the public here who want no part in either middle-eastern or central asian conflict would be "sitting in the belly of the beast."
and yet so easily surrender Afghans liberties to your beloved Taliban and their single party rule,
No Daruish, its simply that surrendering liberties to flat-heads and their acolytes and a group of greasy warmongers called the Kabul government is an equally retarded option though you present as simply one or the other.
and an array of centrally planned government policies seeking to control and regulate everything, from how to dress to socially engineering an Afghan culture? All your argument is under perception of they simply are the way things are.
Wrong again Daruish, there is no argument regarding anything. The very fact that Brits and others were able to exploit internal anger at, say Amanullah for instance, because he was dumb enough to try and make some Shinwaris wear top hats and vests to a totally irrelevent meeting amongst a series of other reactionary elements more than validates "things are the way they are."
You know atheist to believe that the world is utterly chaotic and random will see the world in precisely the same way as you do—yet you were calling me an atheist? Seriously, rather than being defensive about it, try and learn why I accuse you of having no understanding of the human condition.
Yet you are the one demanding societal engineering and by force implementing new "norms" that variate far far far away from what the indigenous norms ever permitted because you have wet dreams to reformulate all Afghan men into "Azmalian Man" Please, girl, go get a life and a job and quit living in your pseudo reality.
The fact is the ideology behind the groups like Taliban which sustains them all comes outside--- Deobandi School and many others of the type, Paki state-funded mufties, and Paki State sponsored Mullahs… None of these are indigenous to Afghans. Afghan/Pashtons being a proud nation/ethnicity with history going back thousands of years do not need a religious identity or use of religion as a means for acquiring political power either in Afghanistan or in Pakistan.
Refer that question to Ahmad Shah Abdali and his relationship with Waliullah as well as his sacrilege of the Amritsar temple. Also refer that question to Zeary Muhammad Saleh (communist) and pretty much every Afghan that really is a Pashtun (unlike you) and who has relatives in the rural areas as well as Kandahar or Nangrahar. You are totally out of touch with what it means to be a Pashtun. Rather, in your attempt to study us to pretend to be one of us, you reconstructed a non reality or a pseudo reality.
Anyways, facts upset the primitive minded, hence the cycles of repetitive vitriol they engage in as they surrender their sanity to oblivion.
Says the guy who pretty much labels anyone or anything that devastates his world view with facts, logic and history as a Pakistani sourced, CIA funded, etc etc. Your low intelligence arguments pretty much take the form of every known polemic used by persiofascists.
As expected, you will once again dodge the mainstay of what’s being said, only to revive your bs again as though this discussion had never occurred.
There is no need to dodge the mainstay of anything since you once again are not a part of the discussion due to your non relations to Pashtuns. You are simply another outsider attempting to "look in" with an agenda that demands ascendancy for your shamali/persiofascist flathead gorilla buddies.

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