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  • A bad habit in Punjabis?

    Why do they emulate bad things in others-(1) Bollywood culture from India (2) Wahabism from Saud Kingdom (3) Urdu from Luknawoo and Dehli (3) English culture and arrogant colonialist-ic behaviour from British (brown Sahibs) (4) tribalistic pride and macho-man type attitude from Pashtuns (5) caste system from India ?

    I want an explanation of the above Mr. Jogian and Mr. tripletrouble. Moreover, the name tripletrouble sounds an elite names and indicates the class and social status of tripletrouble, the name tiller_jogian sounds to me like a too ordinary name showing the holder doesn't have a high class.
    Last edited by Toramana; 04-26-2015, 04:32 PM.

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    1. Bollywood has roots in Peshawar, Pashtuns have sizable contribution in Bollywood

    2.Wahabism is not popular in punjab(don't believe everything liberal newspapers say) if u ever visit punjab, sufi shrines are full and ppl still retain sufi tradition, but yes wahabism has stopped some backward indian superstitions

    3.Urdu is elegant language, Punjabis still proud of Punjabi, compare thriving Punjabi music industry to the decaying Pashtu music scene; I think Punjabis shouldn't mind having 2 languages, both Urdu and Punjabi like Baloch also have 2 languages.

    4.Anglo culture is universal now because of Hollywood,American dominance & globalization, colonliastic attitude is in every majority ethnicity

    5.Somewhat, but not much in cities

    6.Not as prevalent as in India, but there is discrimination against chamars but other castes are all equal and most ppl don't understand caste in hindu sense.

    [MENTION=1201]Toramana[/MENTION]

    loool how is my name "elite" class?please explain.
    "I bow to no one, except ALLAH. I dont bow to punjabay, do not bow to kabulay and afghanay, do not bow to faujay and mullay, do not bow to asfandyarwalay and petty khanays...i am traitor to all of them." - Smartay

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    • #3
      Originally posted by tripledouble View Post
      1. Bollywood has roots in Peshawar, Pashtuns have sizable contribution in Bollywood

      2.Wahabism is not popular in punjab(don't believe everything liberal newspapers say) if u ever visit punjab, sufi shrines are full and ppl still retain sufi tradition, but yes wahabism has stopped some backward indian superstitions

      3.Urdu is elegant language, Punjabis still proud of Punjabi, compare thriving Punjabi music industry to the decaying Pashtu music scene; I think Punjabis shouldn't mind having 2 languages, both Urdu and Punjabi like Baloch also have 2 languages.

      4.Anglo culture is universal now because of Hollywood,American dominance & globalization, colonliastic attitude is in every majority ethnicity

      5.Somewhat, but not much in cities

      6.Not as prevalent as in India, but there is discrimination against chamars but other castes are all equal and most ppl don't understand caste in hindu sense.

      @Toramana

      loool how is my name "elite" class?please explain.
      Pretty much agree with you.

      @Toramana have learned more about punjabis in last two weeks then he ever did about his masters pashtuns.
      Last edited by tilla_jogian; 04-26-2015, 04:50 PM.
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      • #4
        BTW there is very big Punjabi domination in Bollywood, only 2% indian are punjabi but 80% actor,director and producer are punjabi, so ofcourse punjabi will be attracted to it & more it isn't that Punjabis are copying Bollywood culture but that Bollywood is portraying Punjabi culture more than other indian culture; imagine if Pakistan film industry was dominate by Pashtuns and showed mostly Pashtun culture, then obviously Afghans will watch it more
        "I bow to no one, except ALLAH. I dont bow to punjabay, do not bow to kabulay and afghanay, do not bow to faujay and mullay, do not bow to asfandyarwalay and petty khanays...i am traitor to all of them." - Smartay

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        • #5
          Originally posted by tripledouble View Post
          BTW there is very big Punjabi domination in Bollywood, only 2% indian are punjabi but 80% actor,director and producer are punjabi, so ofcourse punjabi will be attracted to it & more it isn't that Punjabis are copying Bollywood culture but that Bollywood is portraying Punjabi culture more than other indian culture; imagine if Pakistan film industry was dominate by Pashtuns and showed mostly Pashtun culture, then obviously Afghans will watch it more
          You know what, punjabis and pashtuns of Pakistan have ****ed up our industry. It has completly shifted to Karachi. Now one will see more punjabi culture in bollywood movies then in Pakistan movies. Even though most of tv actors in Karachi are still from Punjab and KPK.

          I remember pashto and punjabi movie actors used to work in each other films. I know that Shafqat Cheema and Babra Sharif have worked in pashto movies.

          And Babrik Shah and his father used to work in punjabi movies. There are probably some more. Now both industries are dead thanks to same old formula used till modern times.
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          ''Today the ideology of Pakistaniat within Pakistanis is so strong that even if world war 3 is fought within Pakistan boundries,Pakistan will survive.'' [/I]Da Bannu Mazdigar

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          • #6
            btw afghanis love and die for bollywood. While average Pakistani just watch movies for time pass. They even believe dhalkhor hindko awans like Dilip Kumar and Sharukh Khan are pure pathans and are proud of them.

            Bollywood movies are shown on national channels in Afghanistan, this never happens in Pakistan.

            Best post in PF history
            [I]
            ''Today the ideology of Pakistaniat within Pakistanis is so strong that even if world war 3 is fought within Pakistan boundries,Pakistan will survive.'' [/I]Da Bannu Mazdigar

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            • #7
              Originally posted by tilla_jogian View Post
              You know what, punjabis and pashtuns of Pakistan have ****ed up our industry. It has completly shifted to Karachi. Now one will see more punjabi culture in bollywood movies then in Pakistan movies. Even though most of tv actors in Karachi are still from Punjab and KPK.

              I remember pashto and punjabi movie actors used to work in each other films. I know that Shafqat Cheema and Babra Sharif have worked in pashto movies.

              And Babrik Shah and his father used to work in punjabi movies. There are probably some more. Now both industries are dead thanks to same old formula used till modern times.

              i think it's good, paki drama industry has boomed now and shows more tehzeeb than the crappy gandasa mujras of 90s and 80s

              It is actually natural shift back to karachi, before film industry was based in karachi in 50s to 70s then from 80s move to lahore now still in lahore but dramas move to karachi, but even in 80s ptv dramas were dominated by karachi; i think it's good entertainment is not dominated by just 1 city

              btw i think veena malik or meera also worked in pashto movie recently
              "I bow to no one, except ALLAH. I dont bow to punjabay, do not bow to kabulay and afghanay, do not bow to faujay and mullay, do not bow to asfandyarwalay and petty khanays...i am traitor to all of them." - Smartay

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Toramana View Post
                Why do they emulate bad things in others-(1) Bollywood culture from India (2) Wahabism from Saud Kingdom (3) Urdu from Luknawoo and Dehli (3) English culture and arrogant colonialist-ic behaviour from British (brown Sahibs) (4) tribalistic pride and macho-man type attitude from Pashtuns (5) caste system from India ?

                Isnt wahabism more popular in pashtun tribal areas.As i know most punjabis are barelvi/sufi muslims.So why did pashtuns and afghans emulate wahabism from saudi arabia.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by tripledouble View Post
                  i think it's good, paki drama industry has boomed now and shows more tehzeeb than the crappy gandasa mujras of 90s and 80s

                  It is actually natural shift back to karachi, before film industry was based in karachi in 50s to 70s then from 80s move to lahore now still in lahore but dramas move to karachi, but even in 80s ptv dramas were dominated by karachi; i think it's good entertainment is not dominated by just 1 city

                  btw i think veena malik or meera also worked in pashto movie recently
                  Dramas are different, they never showed any gandasa. Lol Yeah but dramas are also now shifted to Karachi.
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                  ''Today the ideology of Pakistaniat within Pakistanis is so strong that even if world war 3 is fought within Pakistan boundries,Pakistan will survive.'' [/I]Da Bannu Mazdigar

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                  • #10
                    Mr Toramana jee Tilla Jogian is where Ranjha visited and became jogi.

                    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tilla_Jogian

                    Obviously I don't expect you to know anything about it.

                    Hindu mandir in tilla jogian

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                    ''Today the ideology of Pakistaniat within Pakistanis is so strong that even if world war 3 is fought within Pakistan boundries,Pakistan will survive.'' [/I]Da Bannu Mazdigar

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                    • #11
                      Thanks Mr. Jogian. Will like to visit that place some day. Have heard much about it.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by tilla_jogian View Post
                        btw afghanis love and die for bollywood. While average Pakistani just watch movies for time pass. They even believe dhalkhor hindko awans like Dilip Kumar and Sharukh Khan are pure pathans and are proud of them.

                        Bollywood movies are shown on national channels in Afghanistan, this never happens in Pakistan.

                        http://tribune.com.pk/story/7754/afg...ith-bollywood/
                        really ?

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