United Pan Iranic country?

[Karachi]

There are lots of movements in the world wanting to create different countries, be it a Pan South Asian country, uniting all of South Asia from Pakistan to south in Sri Lanka/Maldives to east in Bangladesh/Bhutan/Nepal

There are also Pan Arabian movement and Pan Islamic movements, Pan European movements etc... the list goes on

How come I have never heard of Pan Iranian or Iranic movement? uniting all Iranic nations? How come Iranic nations are so divided???? despite having a great history behind them.

[HalloIsBack]

never heard of pan european movements, any info?
but yeah i mentioned that too

maybe they have different religions

there pan slavic movement but they are slavic orthodox as i know so russian, ukrain, serbia and belorussia

[Da Bannu Mazdigar]

Because the iranic History only surround around the persians.Iranic like Pashtuns and kurds has a completely independent history

[DSM0305]

There were a pan Iranic movement in old Iran, but nowadays it exist no more. Actually today Iranians themselves are people who are most against these kind of movements/people.
In Afghanistan aside from Uzbeks and Hazaras, there are Iranic people from all backgrounds. Yet, Pashtuns who are the only remaining eastern Iranic people, are hated by Tajiks. If there is so much turmoil over just 2 different Iranic people, now Imagine how much there will be when 10 different of them join under one government.
In Iran the people are more concerned about the shia Islam. In Afghanistan the Tajiks are more concerned about ethnic dominance. If 35+ million Kurds joined, 15+ million Baloch and 50+ million Pashtuns joined in the same government. It will basically work against Iranian shia Islam and Tajiks ethnic dominance.

All this means that people from Iran and Tajiks from Afghanistan will not seek that unity. In the other hand as mentioned by bannu, that Pashtuns, Baloch and Kurds have their own very strong identity, so they have no reason to seek a united pan iranic country.

[DSM0305]

never heard of pan european movements, any info?
but yeah i mentioned that too

maybe they have different religions

there pan slavic movement but they are slavic orthodox as i know so russian, ukrain, serbia and belorussia

Well, EU is basically a pan European movement. Basically any political party who support EU, can be considered a pan European movement.

[HalloIsBack]

Well, EU is basically a pan European movement. Basically any political party who support EU, can be considered a pan European movement.

eu is an atrificial construct after wwII
people in the europa hate eu and against it, there are now lots of movements against eu

[DSM0305]

eu is an atrificial construct after wwII
people in the europa hate eu and against it, there are now lots of movements against eu

What is your point? No country is godly made, every single of them is man made. Same goes for the European union, which was made after world war 2, to prevent a similar conflict in the future.

Indeed every nationalistic parties are working against EU(which there is for any movement, some are pro and some are against, no different for EU), but nonetheless, the EU is still a pan European movement and the only one I must add.

As for any pan movement, nationalist will be against it. Which is what you're referring to.

[Khostai]

There is a pan Iranic movement, tajiks and other farsi speaking people have strong connection with each other, but only Pashtuns are not part of it, to be honest before this forum I didn't even knew that Pashtuns were even considered Iranic...And other people like Tajiks don't consider us as Iranic. I myself don't even consider me being Iranic. The name Iranic is really alien to me.

[HalloIsBack]

What is your point? No country is godly made, every single of them is man made. Same goes for the European union, which was made after world war 2, to prevent a similar conflict in the future.

Indeed every nationalistic parties are working against EU(which there is for any movement, some are pro and some are against, no different for EU), but nonetheless, the EU is still a pan European movement and the only one I must add.

As for any pan movement, nationalist will be against it. Which is what you're referring to.

not only nationalistic parties are working against eu

what i wanted to say eu is an artificial movement in europa and will die soon!

[DSM0305]

not only nationalistic parties are working against eu

Give me an example of a party that isn't nationalistic, who are working against EU.

what i wanted to say eu is an artificial movement in europa and will die soon!

Be kind and elaborate, because I have no idea what you mean.

[HalloIsBack]

Give me an example of a party that isn't nationalistic, who are working against EU.

the lefts or the communists for example

Be kind and elaborate, because I have no idea what you mean.

eu was made to prevent any wars which are based on rasistic ideology like 2ww was

eu put in every stuff his nose like what kind of bulbs you havte to you, what kind of youghurt you have to eat, other states have to pay for broke states like greece
people are against such kind of paternalism which comes from brussels and has no idea what kind of problems are in germany or france