Eid ul Adha or Loy/ghat/star Akhtar is a tragic day

[Badlun]

I do not know that why one dream of a prophet who tried to slaughter his son was so important that for that dream now millions of animals are slaughtered on one day throughout the Muslim world. Much of the meat is lost as such huge quantity of meat cannot be consumed in poor Muslim countries where refrigeration facilities on grand scale are not available.

I see this dream of the prophet very queer as how a God can ask him to murder his own son. This God seems to be very cruel who asks for human sacrifices and test his prophet in this barbarous way.

I do not see any sense in this tradition. Instead Muslims can have many other festivals where bloodshed of animals may not be that much important. Those they go for Hajj may enjoy their spiritual tour but those who remain may not be compelled to slaughter poor animals. Often as a status symbol, many poor Muslims ask for loans to emulate others who are mercilessly cutting throats of innocent animals on that day.

I would love to have your feedback so that sense may be given to this ugly festival of sacrifices.

[jankhan]

The very basic teaching of Islam is that the mean of the word ''Islam'' is to submit your will to Allah.
And this is the answer to all the questions one can have. Allah is not like a human who we can pose questions directly anytime we want. Why you created the sky blue and why not it is green ? Why Afghanistan does not have border with America ? Why Afghanistan has always been a battlefield and its nieghbours have always played here ?
There could be billions of questions arise in one's mind. We are not supposed to get answer for each and every question.

We have to wait for the day of judgement. When we meet Allah then YES you can ask anything you want. You will answers for ALL of your questions. Simple look human being waited billions of years for the today's scientific discoveries.
So let's wait a little bit more...

[jankhan]

And we are looking to just this one day, but we forget that in the whole world human being consume billions of animals weekly not in the name of religion but to reduce their hunger. So imagine human beings spends billions on animals eating daily.
It is normal.

[DaZahroJaam.]

we get to eat meat because we are burdened with this entire concept of so called free will, a sense of morality and "what is the purpose of your life" **** while goats and sheep have to only worry about the finishing the freshest patch of a grass field before the other one gets to it.
and you are right, my concept of God is not some bully who wants me to prove my love and dedication to him by slaughtering my own child either so i have come up with the conclusion that perhaps God meant for someone to develop the type of frustration and misery that would push them in the process of their journey to find him somewhere beyond the scriptures that his worshipers so conveniently memorize and idolize. yeah..that is more like the concept of God that is worthy of worship.
the right dose of conflict ensure and revitalizes societies. the beauty of life is that the world is full of liars and self indulgent criminals. who would you love dearly and shed tears for and for which trait if everyone was honest and agreeable??
so yeah, the prophets dream and every other shenanigan that came with it at that time was probably to lead people in to confusion so they don't stop at memorizing scriptures so arrogantly and consider their "submission" and obligations to God complete. that drab version of religion and God belongs to the lazy idealists.

and yeah, people borrow money to slaughter during loy akhtar to please their egos, not God.

p.s
if you have a strong conviction in an idea but no answers or proof, you are describing a theory and theories ought to be understood, not believed in or worshiped.

[jankhan]

looool you kill millions of animal each month for your tummies so no problem but big problem if just one day only a few Muslims kill animal. This is nothing but hypocrisy and denial.

[sokaniwaal]

You are replying him with argument. huh!

Mr Badlun "Da Bijlai Tarono aw Da Khudy Karono Ke Ba Goty Na Wahi"

[gadoonwal]

looool you kill millions of animal each month for your tummies so no problem but big problem if just one day only a few Muslims kill animal. This is nothing but hypocrisy and denial.

well said.

[Badlun]

The very basic teaching of Islam is that the mean of the word ''Islam'' is to submit your will to Allah.
And this is the answer to all the questions one can have. Allah is not like a human who we can pose questions directly anytime we want. Why you created the sky blue and why not it is green ? Why Afghanistan does not have border with America ? Why Afghanistan has always been a battlefield and its nieghbours have always played here ?
There could be billions of questions arise in one's mind. We are not supposed to get answer for each and every question.

We have to wait for the day of judgement. When we meet Allah then YES you can ask anything you want. You will answers for ALL of your questions. Simple look human being waited billions of years for the today's scientific discoveries.
So let's wait a little bit more...

This is absolutely absurd to submit to each and every word coming from God without questioning it. Its a blind faith. Why then God himself asks for thinking, criticism, conscience, consciousness, knowledge and use of senses and observation. There must be rationale behind the works and injunctions of the God who claims to be perfect.

If it is so then why in your second post you had tried to justify the slaughtering of millions of animals on one day? You should just submit, be silent and like a dead stone wait for the day of judgement which we could not see for the last millions of years.

[Badlun]

looool you kill millions of animal each month for your tummies so no problem but big problem if just one day only a few Muslims kill animal. This is nothing but hypocrisy and denial.

There are reservations of a large number of members of humanity like Hindus, Buddhists, vegetarians, Jains etc who object to the killing of animals for food. They have some reason because meat as such is not good for health.

However killing animals for food on daily basis can be justified because these animals are killed and consumed properly. It is not the same killing all those millions of animals in the name of God and then no time and space to consume it.

Also why we kill animals just to celebrate one dream of a prophet. Why this dream is this much important. Why God need blood to be happy. If blood does not reach him as Quran says then why we shed this much blood on one day?

[Badlun]

You are replying him with argument. huh!

Mr Badlun "Da Bijlai Tarono aw Da Khudy Karono Ke Ba Goty Na Wahi"

khoga wrora sta toqa pa khpal zaye kho Khalak da brekhna(bijlai) pa taruno ke hum gwati wahi kala che nawi tarauna ghazeegi ya zarha taruna kaar na kawi , aw da tola narhai(dunya), da khudey karuna di , no bya kho pakar da che hais seez la gwatey na warwrho!

[jankhan]

This is absolutely absurd to submit to each and every word coming from God without questioning it. Its a blind faith. Why then God himself asks for thinking, criticism, conscience, consciousness, knowledge and use of senses and observation. There must be rationale behind the works and injunctions of the God who claims to be perfect.

If it is so then why in your second post you had tried to justify the slaughtering of millions of animals on one day? You should just submit, be silent and like a dead stone wait for the day of judgement which we could not see for the last millions of years.

Yes you are right there must be some reason behind anything coming from God but the question is, Is it possible to explain and understand each and everything. There could be billions of questions and for those billions of questions there could be trillions of answers. For example Allah talks about paradise and hell, Allah is not supposed to see paradise and hell in this life. We don't have the capability to see and experience that. It is not possible for a human being to consume and absorb trillions of answers. And it is not the job of God to explain each and everything to you. So many things which God has left to human being.
So please don't test religious beliefs on scientific measurements. Science's knowledge is so limited in its levels, For example science does not know anything about angels, paradise, hell, even jins. Science has to wait a lot to come to this level. There are lots of things in the Quran which science has come discovered now only and there are lots of things that are yet to be discovered but Quran has talked about them fourteen hundreds years ago.
So science is different thing and religion is different. As Dr Zakir Naik says, Quran is not a book of science but a book of signs.

[jankhan]

There are reservations of a large number of members of humanity like Hindus, Buddhists, vegetarians, Jains etc who object to the killing of animals for food. They have some reason because meat as such is not good for health.

However killing animals for food on daily basis can be justified because these animals are killed and consumed properly. It is not the same killing all those millions of animals in the name of God and then no time and space to consume it.

Also why we kill animals just to celebrate one dream of a prophet. Why this dream is this much important. Why God need blood to be happy. If blood does not reach him as Quran says then why we shed this much blood on one day?

The people you mentioned if they don't eat goat, sheep, baffalo or cow, they must be eating fish or some other animals. Even if they don't eat any animal, they do eat plants and vegetables which are also living things, they have also a life. According to science they feel pain. Then they should also stop eating vegs and plants.
for your other part of question there are so many many ''whys''. So I have also so many questions that why god created human beings of not capable of flying so that we would not need visas and aeroplanes and stupid passports. why God not created you and me in the time of prophet so that we could see him and ask him these billions of questions that are in our skull. ? and there are so many questions more and more....
The simple answer is that we are not supposed to have answers for all such questions because we are not capable to get All these answers and God is not supposed to tell us in this world.
We have to wait wait and wait. Please Badlun be patient, you are the preacher of patience and calmness then why so much impatience today I am seeing in you ?

[Karachi]

I actually agree with Badlun on this. When I was in Saudi Arabia, most of the meat was wasted on this eid. Something is clearly wrong here. I understand the concept behind it, but something has to change

[jankhan]

I actually agree with Badlun on this. When I was in Saudi Arabia, most of the meat was wasted on this eid. Something is clearly wrong here. I understand the concept behind it, but something has to change

Well we should know how to divide the meat and who are the consumers. Unfortunately we keep all the meet at our house, It is not the true Qurbani.
According to Islamic teachings, the meat should be divided into three parts equally.
No1: It should be divided into your relatives
No2: It should be divided into poor people who has not made the qurbani
and the last part should be kept and consumed at home.
So you have very little part of the meat remaining.