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    I have noticed some guys here have some misunderstanding about Toramana the great Hapthalite Emperor and ancestor of both Pashtuns and Parachas. He was one of earlier emperors of Afghanistan and northern India (the artificial country Pakistan didn't exist in history ever and also at that time) and ruled a vast land from Iran to Malwa in India. Some of his descendants later settled in Panjsher Valley and the surrounding region and were called Perachis (developed Perachi language) and some settled near Ghani and Kandahar becoming influential Pashtun tribes. Toramana is in my direct ancestral line that is why my name is Toramana. To know more about him, read the article below.






    History and Coins of the Alchon Hun kings Toramana and Mihirakula in India

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    Ali Yamani is considered to be the progenitor of the Paracha tribe of Pakistan. Ali Yamani was a man of Yemeni descent and lived in Medina, at that time known as Yathrib. Some assume that he belonged to the tribe of Al-Ansar, which was very helpful to the Islamic prophet Muhammad when he arrived at Medina with the rest of his followers.

    Ali Yamani, was responsible for the preparation of Muhammad's seating area. Later, after his extended family began to participate in this task, they became known as Ferashas. His family promised to travel wherever the descendants of Mohammad went, hence they migrated into Iran, Afghanistan, and spread throughout South Asia.

    Prachya are generally devout Muslims today. An Arab connection is sacred to them. According to this theory, they are the descendents of Aziz Yemeni, a companion of Muhammad. Hazrat Aziz used to act as “Farash” to Muhammad. Farash in Arabic means “one who spreads a carpet, an attendant, a valet etc. etc.” Hazrat Aziz Yemeni’s descendents were known as “Farasha” after him. During the Arab conquest of Persia (640-644 AD), Abul Aas, the son of Hazrat Aziz Yemeni, was commanding the Yemeni contingent. After the conquest, he settled down in Persia and married a Persian Princess. The Persians transcribed his surname “Farasha” into “Paracha” according to the usage of their own language. His successors were, thereafter, known as “Paracha” in Persia and later in Afghanistan and the Indus Valley after the Arabs conquered these areas.
    [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

    2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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    • #3
      Lol paracahs are yemenis.
      "Revenge is a dish best served cold".

      -Old Pashtun proverb




      "My Pashtun Pride i will not hide!"

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Kushan Prince View Post
        Lol paracahs are yemenis.
        In Pakistan except the pashtuns,All the other ethnicities somehow claim arab ancestory,Which ofcourse is fake.

        Paracha might be one of them because of being non pashtun
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Da Bannu Mazdigar View Post
          In Pakistan except the pashtuns,All the other ethnicities somehow claim arab ancestory,Which ofcourse is fake.

          Paracha might be one of them because of being non pashtun


          But with Parachas it maybe true because of their name is a corruption of Farasha.

          Toramana is a Yemeni
          [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

          2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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          • #6
            Rajputs of India also claim being descendents of Toormana. They give this name to their children Now we solved this, too ...

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            • #7
              Are Parachas related with Afghan Parachis (Indian-related people)?

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              • #8
                parachas are very business minded people, and very successful in their life most of them, they have served Pashtun when they busy in fighting. parachas took care of pashtun properties. they were encouraged to do businesses. most of the parachas moved to big cities owned properties, they consider themselves pashtun and very proud of their pashto language. they are no less pashtun but better pashtun those paki pathans. have a great respect for them.

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                • #9
                  afghan, thanks for that.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by RevolutionThroughReason View Post
                    But with Parachas it maybe true because of their name is a corruption of Farasha.

                    Toramana is a Yemeni
                    Sorry But they don't look like Yemini People or by any chance even close to arabs.

                    The most Famous Paracha,A person who is on the spree of Abusing Islam and Muslim But his cousin is a fan of dirty Parties like PPP and fan of zardari


                    Does he by any chance look like arab?

                    In Reality paracha are probably the saraiki people.because i doubt Punjabis will want to associate themselves with them
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by afghan View Post
                      parachas are very business minded people, and very successful in their life most of them, they have served Pashtun when they busy in fighting. parachas took care of pashtun properties. they were encouraged to do businesses. most of the parachas moved to big cities owned properties, they consider themselves pashtun and very proud of their pashto language. they are no less pashtun but better pashtun those paki pathans. have a great respect for them.
                      *Proud of Pashto language?Who told you this that they speak pashto?there are some wanna be Pashtuns in swat but in majority they live in Punjab and speak Urdu or Saraiki as their first language

                      BOLD PART:Indeed they might be for you,But in reality i have no respect for any abusing Islam.

                      I do remember you also admire Salman Rushdie the PIG.I remember your thread related to him,A anti Pak thread.

                      Hence your love for Anti Islam People like Paracha or Salman rushdie the pig can be justified
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Da Bannu Mazdigar View Post
                        In Pakistan except the pashtuns,All the other ethnicities somehow claim arab ancestory,Which ofcourse is fake.

                        Paracha might be one of them because of being non pashtun
                        Not true, only Syed claim foreign ancestry. And also other with last names like Abbasi, Ansari etc. All of them are fake, majority do not claim Arab ancestry.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Da Bannu Mazdigar View Post
                          Sorry But they don't look like Yemini People or by any chance even close to arabs.

                          The most Famous Paracha,A person who is on the spree of Abusing Islam and Muslim But his cousin is a fan of dirty Parties like PPP and fan of zardari


                          Does he by any chance look like arab?
                          well after 1000 years I doubt people will look like Arabs when they intermarry the locals. But yes clearly Torkharmacha is product of a Yemeni merchant and his servant women that he rescued from the lower ranks of Desis. Which explains Torkharmacha's angst and why he is not capable of passing rudimentary Mathematics courses.
                          [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

                          2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Da Bannu Mazdigar View Post
                            *Proud of Pashto language?Who told you this that they speak pashto?there are some wanna be Pashtuns in swat but in majority they live in Punjab and speak Urdu or Saraiki as their first language

                            BOLD PART:Indeed they might be for you,But in reality i have no respect for any abusing Islam.

                            I do remember you also admire Salman Rushdie the PIG.I remember your thread related to him,A anti Pak thread.

                            Hence your love for Anti Islam People like Paracha or Salman rushdie the pig can be justified
                            paracha are loyal to pashtuns and pashto. I am talking about the one living among pashtuns, suffering alongside pashtuns. they are talented no doubts. Compare to those non-pashtun mullas ,sayed, arabs have been always traitor, play with pashtun blood. if we share a non-muslim opinion it doesn't make any one a kafir or something else.
                            Anti paki thread?
                            A place where you can simply socialize and interact with the Pashtun diaspora across the globe.

                            if salman rushdie is telling the truth about pakies and exposing the country created in the name of islam. why he doesn't say that against india or another country?

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by afghan View Post
                              paracha are loyal to pashtuns and pashto. I am talking about the one living among pashtuns, suffering alongside pashtuns. they are talented no doubts. Compare to those non-pashtun mullas ,sayed, arabs have been always traitor, play with pashtun blood. if we share a non-muslim opinion it doesn't make any one a kafir or something else.
                              Anti paki thread?
                              A place where you can simply socialize and interact with the Pashtun diaspora across the globe.

                              if salman rushdie is telling the truth about pakies and exposing the country created in the name of islam. why he doesn't say that against india or another country?

                              They are termed as amsaya(Hamsaya) by pashtuns and sorry i have nver seen them at any high post let alone business.The best Business they do is to open a naswar coka.In reality they are saraiki People.just google them

                              Anyway thanks for confirming that you admire rushdie the pig
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