Is Persian culture really superior to Islamic culture ?

[Al Hanif]

Discuss.

[Admin Khan]

Persians today are Muslims.

[Karachi]

I dont get what you mean? and what is Islamic culture? There are so many different Islamic cultures

[HalloIsBack]

Persians today are Muslims.

not all!

[HalloIsBack]

islamic culture or better to say arab culture?

distinguish between culture and religion!

[randolph85]

islamic culture or better to say arab culture?

distinguish between culture and religion!

how is islamic culture the same as arab culture when islam itself was against arab culture initially and the bearers of islamic power have been non arabs?

shut your kafir mouth.

[Bengal_Tiger]

how is islamic culture the same as arab culture when islam itself was against arab culture initially and the bearers of islamic power have been non arabs?

shut your kafir mouth.

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[HalloIsBack]

how is islamic culture the same as arab culture when islam itself was against arab culture initially and the bearers of islamic power have been non arabs?

shut your kafir mouth.

islamic culture and arab culture is not the same
if you don't get my post you can ask me in proper way and not insult especially as mod!

as i know islam doesn't allow you to call some one as kafir it's only the right of the god (Allah) and not yours!

[یاسمینه]

Persians are also Muslims.
If it comes to the cultural influence of Persia to Islam, this influence is undeniable. At the time of the first caliphate, they were mainly Persians and Greeks who created culture in the courts. They were architects, gardens designers, artistans, writers... In that context, Arabs didn't contributed to much to the foundations of Islamic culture.
No need to create artificial divisions in the sense of conceit.

[Al Hanif]

Persians are also Muslims.
If it comes to the cultural influence of Persia to Islam, this influence is undeniable. At the time of the first caliphate, they were mainly Persians and Greeks who created culture in the courts. They were architects, gardens designers, artistans, writers... In that context, Arabs didn't contributed to much to the foundations of Islamic culture.
No need to create artificial divisions in the sense of conceit.

Again, I do not care about races, a Persian muslim is my brother as much as an Arab muslim.

But you can't deny that Persian culture is degenerate, I mean look at Bacha-Bazi in Afghanistan, it is practised by culturally Persian Tajiks.

You don't see this pederasty within Baloch culture or Pashtun culture or any surrounding culture except Persian culture.

Why is that ? Is that some sort of indo-european cultural feature ?

Can you show me a semitic drawing with a human being having sex with an animal ?

It doesn't exist.

Only in Persian culture you can find beastiality pictures and homoerotic litterature.

By the way you are wrongly claiming that during the first caliphate islamic architecture was made by Persian architects.

Actually one of the very first pieces of Islamic Architecture was the Dome of the Rock in Al Quds, which made by two Arab architects,

Raja Ibn Haywah, a theologist from Baysan and Yazid Ibn Salam a Christian.





And Persian-Muslim architecture isn't that great. Have you seen the shia mosques in Iran ?

Can they even compete with the genius of a Turkish Sinan ?

I mean look at these sharp minarets pointing towards the sky.




And the mosque of Cordoba ? Persians ? The gardens of Alhambra ? The palaces of Granada ?





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[Khostai]

There was a Persian culture before Islam and Persian culture after Islam. The one before was really bad and degenerate, I have even read somewhere that brothers ans sisters were allowed ot marry and many persian kings had next to there wifes also male lovers :S.

But the Persian culture after Islam is like totaly different, and is not that different from the people surounding them, altough they still have some things that I don't like but that has every culture.....

And by the way that picture of dog with the women is probably from Idian book the Kamasutra, but is translated to Persian or something......
In that book you can also find gay treesoms and what not....

[Khostai]

And by the way the Taj Mahal is design by Persian architects, the writing on the wall is in Farsi.

[HalloIsBack]

There was a Persian culture before Islam and Persian culture after Islam. The one before was really bad and degenerate, I have even read somewhere that brothers ans sisters were allowed ot marry and many persian kings had next to there wifes also male lovers :S.

the same did pharaohs

But the Persian culture after Islam is like totaly different, and is not that different from the people surounding them, altough they still have some things that I don't like but that has every culture.....

And by the way that picture of dog with the women is probably from Idian book the Kamasutra, but is translated to Persian or something......
In that book you can also find gay treesoms and what not....

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[Entropy]

[Badlun]

The wording Islamic Culture is misnomer and paradoxical. There is no Christian culture so how can you say Islamic culture. Islam being a religion has nothing to do with culture. I will discuss it in a separate thread that Islam as Islamism is totally against culture as it is against music, poetry,dance, sculpture, paintings, photography etc so how can you talk of Islamic culture?

Arabs before Islam were culturally more advanced as we see in their poetry and customs. Islam or Islaism did away with sculpture, poetry, pictures,music and dance. In the name of monotheism all the statues were destroyed. The pre-Islamic poetry was never seen again. This is why except mosques and tombs we do not see any Arab or Muslim contribution towards art, culture, architecture and literature. Even the few Muslim philosophers and scientists were mostly non Arabs and heretics.