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  • #16
    Originally posted by کیش View Post
    What the hell is "islamism"? You cant just make up words as you please.

    @DaZahroZaam.

    That's the main difference between men and women. Guys go at it all the time, but don't take things to heart. Females on the other hand, don't let things go as easily, tu you.
    Islamism is considering Islam to be a complete code of life including culture, politics, economy, education, society, law etc and a violent(Taliban, Alqaeda) or non violent struggle(Deoband, salafism, Wahabism,Tableeghis etc) to promulgate Islam in all walks of life.

    On other hand Islam is just the religion(faith, worship and morality).

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Badlun View Post
      Islamism is considering Islam to be a complete code of life including culture, politics, economy, education, society, law etc and a violent(Taliban, Alqaeda) or non violent struggle(Deoband, salafism, Wahabism,Tableeghis etc) to promulgate Islam in all walks of life.

      On other hand Islam is just the religion(faith, worship and morality).
      Then why is "Islamism" not in the dictionary? It's because its purpose is to denigrate the word Islam to a lower level.

      You're also stereotyping and labeling ppl as you please.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Badlun View Post
        We should try to understand each other and may not issue fatwas readily. I understand that Islam as a religion is good but not Islamism. This does not make me kaafir. I listen to others too and learn a lot from it. Stereotypes and cliches should be discouraged.

        Every thing Shamlawar says may not be evil and whatever Badlun says may also not be evil. Differences are inevitable but we may discuss the differences with mutual respect and broadmindedness. Also we may not generalize things. All Pakistanis cannot be bad and all Afghans cannot be good.

        However a Pakistani may remain loyal to his country and Afghan to his country. Pashtuns must feel brotherhood with all Pashtuns whetehr Afghans or Pakistanis because being Pashtun is beyond countries.
        I have called you a kaafir. Thats not a fatwa. Thats calling a spade a spade. Everything you say is evil. Because you are inventing your own religion.

        There is no misunderstanding here. Your words are self evident.
        Originally posted by Firdousi
        Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Badlun View Post
          We should try to understand each other and may not issue fatwas readily. I understand that Islam as a religion is good but not Islamism. This does not make me kaafir. I listen to others too and learn a lot from it. Stereotypes and cliches should be discouraged.

          Every thing Shamlawar says may not be evil and whatever Badlun says may also not be evil. Differences are inevitable but we may discuss the differences with mutual respect and broadmindedness. Also we may not generalize things. All Pakistanis cannot be bad and all Afghans cannot be good.

          However a Pakistani may remain loyal to his country and Afghan to his country. Pashtuns must feel brotherhood with all Pashtuns whetehr Afghans or Pakistanis because being Pashtun is beyond countries.
          please dont stir the fire, shamlawar wror has realized, wrote that he will try to communicate politely. lately he has not called any one a kafir or anything bad . it takes a courage to realize own mistakes correct them and apologize for what ever a person has done.
          For a pashtun male to apologize isn't that easy, it takes a lot of courage to apologize.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by afghan View Post
            please dont stir the fire, shamlawar wror has realized, wrote that he will try to communicate politely. lately he has not called any one a kafir or anything bad . it takes a courage to realize own mistakes correct them and apologize for what ever a person has done.
            For a pashtun male to apologize isn't that easy, it takes a lot of courage to apologize.



            I think you were maybe a few minutes too late.

            lol.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by afghan View Post
              please dont stir the fire, shamlawar wror has realized, wrote that he will try to communicate politely. lately he has not called any one a kafir or anything bad . it takes a courage to realize own mistakes correct them and apologize for what ever a person has done.
              For a pashtun male to apologize isn't that easy, it takes a lot of courage to apologize.
              I never apologized for saying the obvious. Anyone with basic understanding of Islam knows the difference between imaan and kufr. A person who shows contempt for the religion by deliberately distorting it is without any doubt a kaafir.
              Originally posted by Firdousi
              Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Pakwatan View Post



                I think you were maybe a few minutes too late.

                lol.
                lol i guess so.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Shamlawar Khurasani View Post
                  I never apologized for saying the obvious. Anyone with basic understanding of Islam knows the difference between imaan and kufr. A person who shows contempt for the religion by deliberately distorting it is without any doubt a kaafir.
                  we aren't the one to judge ones faith, how well you know him? let his God deal with him about his faith.
                  Last edited by afghan; 01-06-2014, 04:36 PM.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by کیش View Post
                    Then why is "Islamism" not in the dictionary? It's because its purpose is to denigrate the word Islam to a lower level.
                    Islamism does exist in dictionary. Few examples for your kind consideration

                    Islamism: a popular reform movement advocating the reordering of government and society in accordance with laws prescribed by Islam

                    Islamism - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

                    1. An Islamic revivalist movement, often characterized by moral conservatism, literalism, and the attempt to implement Islamic values in all spheres of life.
                    2. The religious faith, principles, or cause of Islam.

                    Islamism - the monotheistic religious system of Muslims founded in Arabia in the 7th century and based on the teachings of Muhammad as laid down in the Koran; "Islam is a complete way of life, not a Sunday religion"; "the term Muhammadanism is offensive to Muslims who believe that Allah, not Muhammad, founded their religion"
                    Islamism - definition of Islamism by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Shamlawar Khurasani View Post
                      I have called you a kaafir. Thats not a fatwa. Thats calling a spade a spade. Everything you say is evil. Because you are inventing your own religion.

                      There is no misunderstanding here. Your words are self evident.
                      Who are you to call someone a kafir?

                      Calling a Muslim as Kafir will indirectly turn you a kafir.

                      I hope you had already recited Kalma again
                      "[B][SIZE="3"]Seer Speen Wazeer[/SIZE][/B]"

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                      • #26
                        your Islamic brothers had sent an 8 year-old girl on a suicide mission... something has to be really f'k'up for a religion to spawn such f'k'up sh't

                        BBC News - Afghanistan girl wearing suicide vest detained

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                        • #27
                          i smell bull**** from 3 users in this thread
                          faye's chauffeur

                          Pashton's girlfriend

                          I'm a Pashtun Princes


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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Hallo View Post
                            i smell bull**** from 3 users in this thread
                            you must have a special talent to it through your computer.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by afghan View Post
                              you must have a special talent to it through your computer.
                              i'm awesome! just live with it!
                              faye's chauffeur

                              Pashton's girlfriend

                              I'm a Pashtun Princes


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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by $hiva View Post
                                your Islamic brothers had sent an 8 year-old girl on a suicide mission... something has to be really f'k'up for a religion to spawn such f'k'up sh't

                                BBC News - Afghanistan girl wearing suicide vest detained
                                Just because an alleged member of religion does something doesn't mean it is endorsed by the religion. People use religion and misinterprete religion all the time for their own benifit. It is the people who are evil. They will use any ideology and reasoning to justify their sick acts.

                                Such acts are to be condemned and the individuals brought to justice.

                                On a positive note, religions are not evil, people are evil. As the old saying goes "Guns don't kill people, people do"
                                Last edited by badmash_khel; 01-06-2014, 06:22 PM.

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