The atheists and wahabis on pashtunforums

[gadoonwal]

Let me explain this first.
The vast majority of pashtuns are suni muslims belong to the Hanafi sect.
Here the tow gangs often preach their idealogy to pashtuns.
They are far from reality.
These westren and arab wahabi tools abusing the majority pashtuns here.
They will never ever be successfull in their mission.
The athiests waste no time by calling everyone wahabi and islamists.
They are the paid servants or i should say slaves of westreners preaching bs to pashtuns.
They calling everyoone wahabi and mulla.
We do have problem with wahabis and extremists but that is matter for pashtuns not atheists.

But atheists just want to justify their arguments against islam to preach their sick and evil idealogy.
They are accusing the whole arab world.The arab world will decide their future not someone setting in the west.
The west imposing their way of life on others in the name of democracy.
The other active gang on pashtuns forum is the wahabis under the leadership of ,,shamlawar khurasani saib,,,.
According shamlawar khursani sab the nationalists are evils and hunarmandan like naghma a prostitute.
The wahabi gang also imposing arab culture on pashtuns.
The founder of wahabism was abdul wahab somone from arabia in the 17th centuries.
This sick man introduce his own islam .His islam is not the islam of muhammad (pbuh).
His followers are in fact going against the holy quran by showing no respect to other ethnicities,cultures and languages.
They are not doing any good for islam.
Was their any wahabism during the time of muhammad (pbuh).
If not then where its come from?
The arabs paying big money to preach this idealogy.
They have names like khurasani which is persain word with persain nationalism.

These people are preaching their sick idealogy but they will fail .

We also have the shai sect very active on pashtunforum preaching for iran.
They are abusing the arab states but in reality the biggest evil on earth is iran.
Iran do,nt even allow the sunis to build a mosqueS.
Here they are preaching islam to us.kidding
They are lost in their believ anyway.

[Badlun]

I agree with you that atheism and Salafism are both extremes but what do you think about secularism? Is it not the middle path? You have your religion and at the same time your culture, economy, education and politics.

If you oppose secularism then you have to abandon Pashtunwali, Pashtun culture, Pashtun way of life, Pashtun nationalism, Pashtun politics because in Islamism or Salafism Islam is the complete code of life which include your religion(faith, worship, morality), culture, society, economics, politics, education, everything.

We can be Muslims believing in one God, prophets, angels, holy books, Hereafter, can offer prayers, keep fast, pay zakat, go for Hajj and observe Islamic moral injunctions but at the same time our culture and society is based on Pashtunwali, our politics on democracy and our economy on free market concept as well as we get modern education and achieve high standards of science and technology. This is secularism.

[$hiva]

You own this place, so why not call it Balouch forums?

[Khorosani]

wahabis>atheists.

[gadoonwal]

I agree with you that atheism and Salafism are both extremes but what do you think about secularism? Is it not the middle path? You have your religion and at the same time your culture, economy, education and politics.

If you oppose secularism then you have to abandon Pashtunwali, Pashtun culture, Pashtun way of life, Pashtun nationalism, Pashtun politics because in Islamism or Salafism Islam is the complete code of life which include your religion(faith, worship, morality), culture, society, economics, politics, education, everything.

We can be Muslims believing in one God, prophets, angels, holy books, Hereafter, can offer prayers, keep fast, pay zakat, go for Hajj and observe Islamic moral injunctions but at the same time our culture and society is based on Pashtunwali, our politics on democracy and our economy on free market concept as well as we get modern education and achieve high standards of science and technology. This is secularism.

Ok,secularism is a word the westren world wants to impose on others.
This is what i call westreniztion which agian is not accepted to the people of east and spacaily pukhtoons.
Pashtuns are eastren and not westren.We should move farword and reject both westreniztion and extremism.
We have our own limit and boundries.You can be pashtun and muslim with your eastren values and cultures.
For example many things the arabs imposed on us in the name of islam.
Our music,cultural events and even our tradional sports are haram according to wahabyaans.
We must not allow these mullas hijacking our values,culture and history.
We should moderanise our way of life and so but inside our eastren values.
As i said wahabism and athiesim or westrenizatrion will destroy our values,culture and so.
At present wahabis are gaining ground in pashtun society.
They are brainwashing pashtuns.In pakistan these people are also supported by agencies to keep pashtuns pakipied in the name of islam.
These extremists mullas are spacailly trained for pashtun society.These extremists are influenced by wahabis.
We want a true picture of pashtun society where men and women respect eachother.
Women are not safe in burqa in pashtun society.
Pashtuns then look to their feet.
They are treated far worst then animals.
A true pashtun man have parda in their eyes and never look to other,s namos with greedy eyes.
The respect and honour is disapeard.
Now you will see these ,,khwaar kholi pakhtaana,,,looking to women like hungry wolf.