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    First of all, my parents are "separated" but still married. They can't stand each other so they live in different places.

    Until the age of 10, I was largely raised by my mom, grandma, aunt, uncles and other relatives. Growing up my father was hardly ever around because he was busy gathering money for the entire family.

    From the ages of 0-10, I didn't know who my dad was. I had only known him from pictures. My dad first became a significant part of my life when I went to live with him in Pakistan at age 10, my mom and brother also came with us. Then when I was 16 to 19, I moved to London (first year on my own, then my mom came the next year) while my dad was in Chicago. Now my dad is still in Chicago, my mom is in Ponce and I am in Oman with my brother.

    I learnt only a few things from my parents.
    Most other things were taught to me by other people.

    My father taught me 3 things:

    1) Never do anything that you don't want to do.
    2) Never get caught doing anything which is percieved as "wrong".
    3) Don't give a **** about what anyone thinks.

    From my mom I learnt many things, including:

    1) Don't piss her off or else she will slap me.
    2) Be respectful towards/don't hit women.
    3) How to cook for myself.
    4) The importance of believing in a higher power.
    5) How to endure stress, hardship and unpleasant situations.
    6) How to stand up for myself.
    7) Everyone is responsible for themselves at the end of the day.

    By watching my parents' actions, I learnt that the following should be avoided, but are difficult to abstain from:

    1) Not to drink alcohol.
    2) Not to cheat on your spouse.
    3) Not to throw money away on stupid things.
    4) Not to marry the "wrong person".
    5) Not to chase money when you already have enough.
    6) Plan carefully and don't be impulsive.
    7) Don't let your marital issues affect your relationship with your kids.

    The things above are what caused many problems for my family but they are hard to avoid, especially when you are temptation-prone.

    What did you learn?
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    My mom and dad are cousins. They were arranged married in Islamabad.

    What i learned from My dad's action isn't the best advice to give others. Only for a short period of time has he ever worked for anybody else. Even when we are dead broke, he won't work for anyone. My dad for the most of my life treated us as secondary after his mom and siblings. Like he would give his brothers money, but wouldn't give any to my mom or buy his kids anything that wasnt "necessity"

    Don't work for others.
    Don't give money to robbers even after they have slashed half your face, and sprayed pepper-spray. Give money to a robber only when they have the bigger gun, like shotgun > handgun.
    That's about it.

    My mom:
    Pretty much what a mom does.

    From the ages of 5-13 I was literally raised by a hafiz inside a Pakistani madrassa.

    My parents could have done a better job raising their kids, but they aren't educated in a formal way. And they grew up in Afghanistan. Which is a different universe than NY.
    Last edited by کیش; 08-27-2013, 05:51 PM.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by کیش View Post
      My mom and dad are cousins. They were arranged married in Islamabad.

      What i learned from My dad's action isn't the best advice to give others. Only for a short period of time has he ever worked for anybody else. Even when we are dead broke, he won't work for anyone.

      Don't work for others.
      Don't give money to robbers even after they have slashed half your face, and sprayed pepper-spray. Give money to a robber only when they have the bigger gun, like shotgun > handgun.
      That's about it.

      My mom:
      Pretty much what a mom does.

      From the ages of 5-13 I was literally raised by a hafiz inside a Pakistani madrassa.
      Islamabad?

      I agree with your dad except I would rather get shot than give a robber money, even if he has a shotgun and I have a razor blade.

      While in Pakistan, I was largely in the care of my dad's employees, that's how I was first exposed to Pashto and picked it up from them.

      BTW which madrassa?
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      • #4
        Originally posted by کیش View Post
        My parents could have done a better job raising their kids, but they aren't educated in a formal way. And they grew up in Afghanistan. Which is a different universe than NY.
        My parents could also have done a better job but they kept moving countries, my dad was more concerned with making money rather than spending quality time with his family and both of them were drunk off their ass whenever they weren't working.

        Also, my dad was selfish because he treated anyone other than himself as secondary. He bought himself luxury items while the rest of us had average things.
        Last edited by El Camello; 08-27-2013, 05:58 PM.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by El Camello View Post
          Islamabad?

          I agree with your dad except I would rather get shot than give a robber money, even if he has a shotgun and I have a razor blade.

          While in Pakistan, I was largely in the care of my dad's employees, that's how I was first exposed to Pashto and picked it up from them.

          BTW which madrassa?
          Masjid Al-Falah in Corona, Queens. This masjid was as rougher than madrassa in Afg/Pak



          Yea, they were married in Islamabad.

          Sometimes, it's better to give some money to a gunman who will blow your brains off. Also, when you have kids it's better to get robbed sometimes.

          Because of my parents, I have learned what it takes to become, hopefully, a better dad to my kids. Not to take anything away from my pops.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by کیش View Post
            Masjid Al-Falah in Corona, Queens. This masjid was as rougher than madrassa in Afg/Pak



            Yea, they were married in Islamabad.

            Sometimes, it's better to give some money to a gunman who will blow your brains off. Also, when you have kids it's better to get robbed sometimes.

            Because of my parents, I have learned what it takes to become, hopefully, a better dad to my kids. Not to take anything away from my pops.
            I can imagine it being tough.
            Ghetto American Muslims tend to treat Islam like a gang, I heard a few Sunni cats from Philly shout stuff like "Salafi killer!" LOL

            Yeah, if you got kids then its different. I have nothing to lose however.

            When we have kids of our own, we have to make sure we don't repeat any of our parents' mistakes.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by El Camello View Post
              I can imagine it being tough.
              Ghetto American Muslims tend to treat Islam like a gang, I heard a few Sunni cats from Philly shout stuff like "Salafi killer!" LOL
              Muslims in America are the most misguided and bizarre group of "Muslims" I have ever heard of.
              Originally posted by Firdousi
              Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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              • #8
                Some people use public forums to constantly complain about their parents and family. Makes me wonder, how good are they as children to their parents?
                Originally posted by Firdousi
                Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Shamlawar Khurasani View Post
                  Muslims in America are the most misguided and bizarre group of "Muslims" I have ever heard of.
                  That is kind of true, but they aren't as bad as Mr. Ma Bufang.

                  A place where you can simply socialize and interact with the Pashtun diaspora across the globe.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Shamlawar Khurasani View Post
                    Some people use public forums to constantly complain about their parents and family. Makes me wonder, how good are they as children to their parents?
                    I have no feelings towards anyone so I don't care how good or bad I am.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by El Camello View Post
                      That is kind of true, but they aren't as bad as Mr. Ma Bufang.

                      http://www.pashtunforums.com/showthr...ghlight=bufang
                      Well it seems you don't know about American Islam. They will make that Chinese baboon look legit.
                      Originally posted by Firdousi
                      Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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                      • #12
                        American Islam is better than Europe and even countries with a majority of a "Muslim" population.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Shamlawar Khurasani View Post
                          Well it seems you don't know about American Islam. They will make that Chinese baboon look legit.
                          By "American Islam" do you mean NOI, NGE, etc.?
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Shamlawar Khurasani View Post
                            Some people use public forums to constantly complain about their parents and family. Makes me wonder, how good are they as children to their parents?
                            Dude asked a legitimate question.

                            It makes me wonder why people use public forums to call others "Kaffirs" all day long, while they themselves, are more benighted than the blind, deaf, and dumb.

                            Instead of answering his questions, your throwing your trash-like judgement again.

                            I'm more of a wahhabi, salafi, whatever, than you are. You wouldn't last a day at my madrasah, yet act like some kind of big shot, imam.

                            I've seen Afghans like you run away from my masjid.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by El Camello View Post
                              By "American Islam" do you mean NOI, NGE, etc.?
                              No, NOI are kaafirs without at doubt. But American Islam is where they reinterpret Islam in accordance to American culture and socio-political climate.
                              Originally posted by Firdousi
                              Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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