what really grinds my gears

[Dreamer]

dont want 2 thanks...

[eyeliner]

^ lol, you lot are getting emotional.

[Master Khan]

so to you Pashtuns are drinkers and bad people, and Black people are angles.

[Dreamer]

I mean look at the posts... according to MK every1 and everything in Swabay is like janaat and all the people are angels who have lost their wings and cant fly back 2 heaven... where as we from the west are all immoral ... again typical attitude of pashtuns from back home...

[Dreamer]

so to you Pashtuns are drinkers and bad people, and Black people are angles.

No I was showing u what generalisation does... I said I know pashtuns drink and do xyz so according 2 ur standards all pashtuns are like that... I unlike you judge ppl on an individual basis .... not on their ethnicity or colour

[Master Khan]

Well you told me stories of people coming from muslim countries here to UK and then with all freedom they go to Clubs and etc..even womens.

[Dreamer]

they do... re- read all the posts again carefully....

[eyeliner]

no offence MK but i hate it when people generalise and assume that the west is the embodiment of evil and immorality, things like nang, namoos and ghayrat are universal traits, which ever community posess just because they don't fit certain standards does not essentially mean their wrong.I hate it when people assume that azadi is a western thing.

[Master Khan]

West is azad mulk.

[eyeliner]

^ what is wrong with azadi?

[Dreamer]

people from "back home" are more azad then anything.. muslims in the west tend to be more conservative because we unlike them dont have inferiority complexes about living up 2 the western ideal

[Dreamer]

West is azad mulk.

thats why all the drunks come from back home

[eyeliner]

^ what do you mean?

[eyeliner]

thats why all the drunks come from back home

men normally drink but they don't publicise it, some do but not all. Like in gatherings/majlis' they'll gather and drink, even in weddings, but older generation men don't tend to brag, even though everyone knows their buisness.

[Dreamer]

most people who are muslims and drink in my experience are from Pakistan ( all areas) as in they have recently come, muslims born here dont drink or if they do are very discrete about it where as ones from back home like to boast and be open about it