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  • #31
    It's a great shame to see that 23 people have voted for Pakistan. How can you call it "occupied Pashtunkhwa" when a good number of inhabitants there have fallen victim to the Stockholm syndrome and fallen in love with their captors?
    "If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be".

    "Knowledge will forever govern ignorance; and a people who mean to be their own governors must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives".

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    • #32
      ya such people not only in love with Pakistan, but such peple caused more destruction of afghanistan being in ISI and other secret agencies and being easily camoufladged in Pashtun society. One person from my village is serving in Kabul from last 20 years. He is grade 19 officer in ISI. so it is difficult to say, what to say?

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      • #33
        Originally posted by erlangner View Post
        ya such people not only in love with Pakistan, but such peple caused more destruction of afghanistan being in ISI and other secret agencies and being easily camoufladged in Pashtun society. One person from my village is serving in Kabul from last 20 years. He is grade 19 officer in ISI. so it is difficult to say, what to say?
        Reeducation along the lines of the glorious Pol Pot?
        "If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be".

        "Knowledge will forever govern ignorance; and a people who mean to be their own governors must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives".

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        • #34
          well my ancestors were from afghanistan and plus we are Pashtuns(Afghan) so I will vote for Afghanistan ...plus I love Afganistan history.
          I don't hate Pakistan but My family and ancestors were from Afghanistan.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Master Khan View Post
            well my ancestors were from afghanistan and plus we are Pashtuns(Afghan) so I will vote for Afghanistan ...plus I love Afganistan history.
            Pakistan Studies also loves Afghan (Pashtun) history up to the point where Babur entered the scene in 1526 I believe. Then Pashtuns became the bad guys. The good old Delhi Sultan Mr. Lodhi,who was up till now our guy, became an outsider who was rightfully removed by Babur, the Jalaaluddin. I've a copy of Baburnama. He killed Pashtuns and made towers with their skulls. And he wrote about it in his book. Then he took a break for Asr prayers.
            "If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be".

            "Knowledge will forever govern ignorance; and a people who mean to be their own governors must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives".

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Jasmine
              Ya but you have been a Pakistan for 60 years and an Afghan for over several thousands years.

              Yeah, but is it an earth shaking fact? That was Khuraasan which include modern time Iran and CAR's also. Has someone claim Iranian part? We have affiliated willingly with Pakistan, so fought its war with zeal and zest.

              Btw, I am still well wisher of my brothers.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Nadir Shah View Post
                How do you owe your material, emotional, mental (If you say so) and spiritual development to Pakistan?
                When you are a patriotic and not a traitor, then you owe everything to your beloved country.

                And you are not a pilot of my ship till now..

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Levanaye Zalmaye View Post
                  It's a great shame to see that 23 people have voted for Pakistan. How can you call it "occupied Pashtunkhwa" when a good number of inhabitants there have fallen victim to the Stockholm syndrome and fallen in love with their captors?
                  Whom do you consider captors...?

                  I know your reply will be 'Punjabi...'

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Saeed Khan View Post
                    Whom do you consider captors...?

                    I know your reply will be 'Punjabi...'
                    Hold on a second! You're a mind-reader, right? Like Chris Angel? That's not fair, you know.... cuz most of us can't read minds....

                    The captors are those who are the biggest beneficiaries of the Pakistani state, whoever they may be.
                    "If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be".

                    "Knowledge will forever govern ignorance; and a people who mean to be their own governors must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives".

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                    • #40
                      hahahh saam lewanay swaal de wachawalo ......

                      This question has a universal application... you can put to any citizen of a third world country...

                      Well again appreciate your question.....

                      If i answer this question, then i would say Tribal....

                      Till now they are in Tax free zone and dont pay utility bills

                      Kani Nokie na tapos oka...

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                      • #41
                        Having your homes bombed is heavier than any form of taxation I know of.

                        Maseed na tapoos uka.
                        "If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be".

                        "Knowledge will forever govern ignorance; and a people who mean to be their own governors must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives".

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                        • #42
                          ya worse type of slavery is where slave consider himself free, Goethe.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Levanaye Zalmaye View Post
                            Having your homes bombed is heavier than any form of taxation I know of.

                            Maseed na tapoos uka.
                            Have you been to Tribal area....or do u have family there...

                            Then dont spread those things which are not existing on that scale....or

                            generalize in current scenario.

                            And those bombings are unfortunately more frequent in rest of Pakistan and Afghanistan.

                            Kani har cha na tapos oka

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by erlangner View Post
                              ya worse type of slavery is where slave consider himself free, Goethe.
                              hahhah 100 % agree.... and unfortunately whoever trying to liberate you, also get your appreciation...

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Saeed Khan View Post
                                Have you been to Tribal area....or do u have family there...

                                Then dont spread those things which are not existing on that scale....or

                                generalize in current scenario.

                                And those bombings are unfortunately more frequent in rest of Pakistan and Afghanistan.

                                Kani har cha na tapos oka
                                He means f-16 jets and gunship helicopters. Those were only used in Fata, baloch areas and PATA. I am surprised you don't know about this. The military scale of attack Pak army used was far more dangerous than what India used when it attacked the "jugular vein" --> Kashmir.
                                http://i29.tinypic.com/2a6j8jm.gif

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