western culture is backwards when it comes to most things

[Joey_Gladstonezai]

Yo estoy un poco ofendido como su caracterization de los blancos pero estoy de acuerdo que nuestra cultura aqui es muy mala.

[Joey_Gladstonezai]

Killizai,

What is the solution? Should we renounce society and take off to the backcountry?

[Karachi]

Westerners work hard when they have too and they play hard when they have too, this is what I notice about them

[Manzareh]

interesting comment I read on youtube:

Western ideology means fornication, adultery, drugs, alcoholism, teen pregnancy, pornography, women powerful over men disguised as "equal rights", cowardice, imperialism, indoctrination to accept all this & etc. We Pashtuns have something called "ghairat" there's not even a word for ghairat in English because they don't have it in their characteristics. Muslims may not be perfect but we value family bonds, women & dont see them as sexual objects.

[badmash_khel]

Western countries are victims of social engineering of the elites who want to enslave humanity. In a few hundred years the whole world will look the same and have the same values except for a few righteous people who will stand up to this great calamity. If we are not careful, we will suffer the same fate and lose the few positive traits of our culture which will destroy our social fabric. It's a constant struggle to stay on the straight path which can only be achieved by the grace of Allah (swt), self discipline, controlling one's nafs, constant worship and repentance etc. May Allah (swt) keep all of us among the righteous ones. Ameen

[Khyber Pass]

I agree with this, all they have people thinking about is sex, money and alcohol, you talk to any gimp these days and that's all they want, very sad to see. Society is not what it used to be, family, love; that's all gone.

[Karachi]

Western society indeed might be all that, but unfortunately Muslim societies are no better. we are usually#1 at corruption, theft, violence, ethnic hatred, intolerance etc... and so much more evil. So while westerners may not have any values left, are muslims really following Islamic values? that is the question.

One thing to think about is why do muslim come in droves to the west and live here? obviously because they feel these societies despite all their ills are better for their future

[Al Hanif]

Western society indeed might be all that, but unfortunately Muslim societies are no better. we are usually#1 at corruption, theft, violence, ethnic hatred, intolerance etc... and so much more evil. So while westerners may not have any values left, are muslims really following Islamic values? that is the question.

One thing to think about is why do muslim come in droves to the west and live here? obviously because they feel these societies despite all their ills are better for their future

There is no islamic state in this world.

The last islamic state was the Rashidun Caliphate.

So there are no "muslim societies", just muslim people living in mongrel societies.

Many majority-muslim countries like Malaysia, Morocco, Algeria, Saudi Arabia... have much lower crime rates than Sweden, Russia or USA.

You have to remember that all muslim countries that are **** right now are like this because of western intervention and traitors (liberals, secularists and "islamist" thugs).

The day Saddam invaded Kuwait to become a superpower in the middle east (over 60% of oil reserves), all western countries attacked Iraq at the same time.

The West is the number one cause of our situation, they don't want strong muslim states and people who support westerners meddling in muslim countries are the biggest criminals.

They want to destroy Iran now because Iran is actually becoming strong.

Muslims come in droves in the West not because of their Gay Prides and Night Clubs but because of higher living standards which were achieved thanks to that thing called "Usury".

We the Muslims are forbidden to enjoy this life.

Everything that is good or gives us pleasure is forbidden to us in this world : usury, women, alcohol, sleeping instead of praying...



To answer your question, yes, many muslims are following islamic values, but they are outnmubered by westernized liberals and islamist cults (Muslim brotherhood, sufis, salafis) who ruin everything.



Westerners are still #1 in corruption, theft, violence...


they are white-collar criminals

the governments are corrupted by the military-industrial complex, the banks, Goldman Sachs, AIPAC

they steal oil, they steal their citizens to pay their debt


violence : they killed millions in Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya... which is infinitely more than any "terrorist attack"

[randolph85]

that is the appeal of christianity to most westerners, they do what they want but believe that as long as they believe in jesus they are saved. lazy ass religion. most younger people are atheists though and just don't care.