If men and women are equal then

[Al Hanif]

why have separate teams for men/women, girls/boys in competitive sports ?

[Admin Khan]

The term equal, conceptually, only exists in Math, and Math related disciplines like Computer Science, EE, MechE, and others. In real life, nothing is equal.

If I declare int a =5; int c =5; the content(not the reference in memory) are equal.

[Karachi]

Men and women are not equal, even scientifically, however there are things that women are stronger at and there are things men are stronger at. Life is all about balance, and God created it this way so both men/women can compliment each other.

Unfortunately with western/feminism all the commonsense is lost and men and women are competing with each other in every thing.

[Nazar]

If the women were really that equal to men, we would have 50000 blondie in Afghanistan. War on terror would have been so much erotic!

[HalloIsBack]

If the women were really that equal to men, we would have 50000 blondie in Afghanistan. War on terror would have been so much erotic!

[Khostai]

I think peopel here don't understand what equality really means -_-

[Kushan Prince]

The Quran says both men and women are all equal so your all wrong.

[DaZahroJaam.]

under the code of basic human rights, everyone is entitled to the same rights because everyone is a human being. that is meant when it's said that women are equal as men. (equally human) other than that, as the admin said, no one is equal to anyone else.

[torkham]

This equality term is so loosely used and so misconstreud. Men and women are not physically or emotionally or in any other way equal except we have similar atoms, blood etc, continue like this it reduces to absurdities..

It is the human rights that we deserve, say by the declaration of human rights, as sister points out, that are equally deserving.

Not to have nose cut off or part of scalp blown off or forced into the profession or treated as chattel, not to be deprived of right to self-determination.

[Al Hanif]

This equality term is so loosely used and so misconstreud. Men and women are not physically or emotionally or in any other way equal except we have similar atoms, blood etc, continue like this it reduces to absurdities..

It is the human rights that we deserve, say by the declaration of human rights, as sister points out, that are equally deserving.

Human rights are masonic principles created by Freemason Satanists.

Ye who follows humans rights follows the Taghut.

We already have the Holy Qur'an that tells us which rights women have and which rights men have.

Men and women can't have the same sets of rights and duties since they're so different and complementary.

Not to have nose cut off or part of scalp blown off or forced into the profession or treated as chattel, not to be deprived of right to self-determination.

Who disagrees with that ? No one disagrees with that.

You're again avoiding the problem which is copying the west and following satanic anti-traditionnal doctrines.

For hundred of thousands of years, men and women had different tasks, different rights and different duties.

The husband had authority over his wife, the wife had the right to be protected by her husband, children were raised by their mother, men and women were separated at school.

Men went to war and hunting, women prepared the meals.

And now human rights tells you that a man and a woman have the same exact rights.

Women go to war, children are raised by peadophiles in kindergartens, wifey is too tired to prepare food after work so we'll order another pizza tonight.

The woman doesn't want to have children because it threatens her career, she is harrased by her boss but can't say anything about it because she fears losing her job. And if she accepts to have a child, she doesn't have the time to raise her child so she gives him to a kindergarten.

And now that she has her own money, she is confident enough to psychologically blackmail her husband and threatens to flee from him.

Aren't you aware of the divorces rates in the west ?

The loving mother taking care of her children has been replaced by a good consumer and an effective employer who doesn't want to raise a family but prefers leading a life of multiple sexual experiences.

The only reason why feminist ideologies were heavily propagandized in the west is because a working woman is another consumer and allowing women to work means twice more benefits for the multinational corporations.

[Al Hanif]

"Human rights" purposefully confuses two concepts.


1) the equal value of life, regardless of the gender, which is undisputed

and

2) men and women having identical roles and being interchangeables, both in society and in the law



number 1) is used as a Trojan horse to impose 2) which eventually leads to 3)


3) men and women having identical roles in family life and the notion of gender becoming less and less relevant (homosexuality, disparition of fatherhood and motherhood)



The position of women in society is mostly influenced by the extent of urbanization, industrialization, proletarization and political ploys of the state managers rather than culture or intrinsic properties of Islam.


The position of women in society influences the role of women in family life.

An excellent employer cannot be an excellent mother and wife.

And an excellent mother and wife cannot be an excellent employer.

Women have the right to study and work but it shouldn't be an obstacle to their family life.



There is a huge pressure in the west imposed upon women who are seen as genderless economical workers and are taught that being the most effective employer and the best consumer is what they all should aspire for. So their family life is almost non-existant.

The constant feminist brainwashing has imposed the idea that men do not have any authority over women, which explains the high divorces rates, the feminization of men and the terrible education of children.



In modern societies, the women problem is actually only a branch of a wider problem which is the economical problem.

[torkham]

Human rights are masonic principles created by Freemason Satanists.

freemasonry is irrelevant, maybe it was cultish for the unread

Ye who follows humans rights follows the Taghut.

We already have the Holy Qur'an that tells us which rights women have and which rights men have.

no doubt about that

Men and women can't have the same sets of rights and duties since they're so different and complementary.


not totally correct. A duty is not a requirement for eligibility to a right - its like adopting the indo-pak caste system, smiths and carpenters are considered lowly working class and land owner, even if it is one biswa, is considered a superior being

Who disagrees with that ? No one disagrees with that.

tell that to the people who shot malala and others who burn girls schools or poison drinking water in girls schools

You're again avoiding the problem which is copying the west and following satanic anti-traditionnal doctrines.

For hundred of thousands of years, men and women had different tasks, different rights and different duties.

The husband had authority over his wife, the wife had the right to be protected by her husband, children were raised by their mother, men and women were separated at school.

Men went to war and hunting, women prepared the meals.

And now human rights tells you that a man and a woman have the same exact rights.

ok i can agree to some points but clarify; aping westerners point reaches a difficult gray area.
Hunter gatherer and carer roles have evolved with modernisation, even the US amish communities are suffering this but they are at least more committed than many of us

Women go to war, children are raised by peadophiles in kindergartens, wifey is too tired to prepare food after work so we'll order another pizza tonight.
ok these are reallly abysmal examples of social breakdowns - similar cracks exist amongst our people as well, the new just doesnt reach everyones ears and eyes

The woman doesn't want to have children because it threatens her career, she is harrased by her boss but can't say anything about it because she fears losing her job. And if she accepts to have a child, she doesn't have the time to raise her child so she gives him to a kindergarten.

And now that she has her own money, she is confident enough to psychologically blackmail her husband and threatens to flee from him.

Aren't you aware of the divorces rates in the west ?

The loving mother taking care of her children has been replaced by a good consumer and an effective employer who doesn't want to raise a family but prefers leading a life of multiple sexual experiences.

The only reason why feminist ideologies were heavily propagandized in the west is because a working woman is another consumer and allowing women to work means twice more benefits for the multinational corporations.

sadly many of the above are happening amongst muslims too. And by living amongst the westerners is not helping in terms of environmental influences, except for the few strong resolute personallities, the more vulnerable suffer, peer pressure pervails, inner conflicts arise, mind sets adapt and twist.

my point is not as detailed as your response, however i know many people would prefer to be under the UN human rights, even the Cairo version, rather than say the rights in Saudi Arabia, or Pakistan or almost any Muslim country. the western exception is the current situation in that ad hoc torture place off cuba. Some how our people are in developmental stage of implementing the rights bestowed through sharia faithfully

[torkham]

Sharia indeed exceeds and surpasses beyond the UN human, or any other, rights but Our institutions and our governors need to be beyond reproach, and in the "sturm und drang" of it, our institutions and governors, the Custodians(!!!!!!) do a grand job of mismanagement and misinterpreting it, in a world ready to pounce on slight pecadillo. Infact i dont really care what the west thinks, but i do care how i treat my muslim brother, and any other human who is in our care or custody, because we have an obligation sharia.