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    People who overturn the apple cart don't ask for permission. But it takes more than audacity for a 26-year-old to challenge an entire industry. For Ahmed Khattak, it was personal: He couldn't buy a phone. An international student from Peshawar, Pakistan, Khattak arrived at Yale in 2004 at the age of 18 with no social security number and no credit history. That meant no one would sell him a cell phone.

    He was appalled at the barriers the U.S. cell phone industry threw in front of consumers at every turn. Restrictive two-year contracts?

    Indecipherable pricing schemes for voice, data and text? And, once he got a prepaid phone, $50 a week just to call his family back in Pakistan? This, from the most technologically advanced country in the world?

    "I couldn't believe it," Khattak says.

    In 2007, he went to London for an internship and discovered how to change the game--at the airport, no less, only moments after he got off the plane. "I realized that it was as easy as going to a vending machine, buying a SIM card and [thereafter] paying $22 a month for your phone bill," he says.

    It was his "eureka" moment: unlocking cell phones, setting them free. "I decided that I had to change the way people in the U.S. go about their plans and phones," he says. His New Haven, Conn.-based company, GSM Nation, had sales of $35 million in 2011, its first full year, and is on track to reach sales of $50 million this year.

    Three components to Khattak's life help explain how he came to build his business. First, he was exceptionally competitive at squash, good enough to be recruited by Yale.

    "I am ethnically a Pashtun, and Pashtuns have dominated squash for over half a century. I went on to become a top-10-ranked junior national," he says.

    The Pakistan Squash Federation is run by the Air Force, the second major influence in Khattak's upbringing. He was a military brat--his father was in the Air Force--so he lived the gypsy life of moving frequently and with little notice, more than 15 times, to cities as big as Karachi and to tiny, remote villages.

    The third component was his can-do personality. "I have always loved building stuff and fixing it; [I am] a problem solver. I tend to look at everything to see where the stress points are and how to fix them," he says. "I would fix my schoolmates' and neighbors' computers and PlayStations. All this was leading to a bigger venture for me."

    The chance to study engineering at Yale, his ability to fit into any environment and his tinkerer's bent laid the groundwork for him to tackle the multibillion U.S. cell phone industry.

    A Business is Born
    GSM Nation's model is simple: Consumers buy manufacturer-unlocked phones that can be used with any network, then they sign up for significantly cheaper voice, text and data plans through third-party carriers such as H2O Wireless or Simple Mobile--with no multiyear contracts.

    These carriers resell blocks of minutes they've purchased from T-Mobile and AT&T.

    Seed capital for the company first came in the form of a $30,000 loan pooled from friends and family; later it would come from Junaid Shams, who co-founded GSM Nation with Khattak. At the time Shams was in medical school at George Washington University (he graduated in May). "In early 2010, Ahmed came to me with this raw business idea," Shams says. "We spent the entire night developing it, talking about infrastructure, financing and concept, basically trying to figure out if it was feasible or not."

    Raising capital was the first test. Once the company had revenue, Khattak and Shams raised an additional $120,000 in loans. A year after launch, capital arrived from an unlikely angel investor: Khattak's dentist. Needing a root canal (but with no way to pay for it) Khattak searched locally for an endodontist who would do the work on credit. When he ran across the name Moin Ahmed, he thought, Sounds like he's from my part of the world. Sure enough, Ahmed was a fellow Pakistani, and he told Khattak not to worry about the money.

    As GSM Nation stirred to life, Ahmed mentioned that he was seeking a place to park some private capital; Khattak suggested he write a check against equity in the company. Bang: Khattak landed $200,000.


    Ahmed Khattak of GSM Nation.
    Did the endodontist see the growth potential in GSM Nation from the start? "Not at the time," he says, "but I wanted to help Ahmed in his venture." Believing in the man more than in the business itself, he handed Khattak the check.

    With desperately needed capital in hand, Khattak ramped up inventory, and two friends from Yale joined the company. Still, Khattak ran the show.

    "I am a very independent person, so I really don't like a lot of interference. I didn't seek a lot of help at all," he says. Indirect help came from the Yale Entrepreneurial Institute, which gave him a tiny office space and required him to produce quarterly reports. "It instilled a great deal of confidence in me, and I owe them for that," he says.

    GSM Nation was an instant hit. "It's hard to put a finger on a particular occasion when I thought we were going to be successful," Khattak says, "because we have surpassed our wildest imaginations. I mean, think of it, in excess of $50 million in sales in just over two years. We have taken such huge leaps that every six months we have a new aim and we literally treat that as our starting point."

    He estimates the total market for his industry is $2 billion to $3 billion--but growing fast. "Fifty to 70 percent of T-Mobile activations came from contract-free plans in the past year, and now all carriers are going into this segment," he says. This translates into more sales for the likes of GSM Nation.

    Full Boil
    Soaring growth poses the immediate problem of cash flow. On this point, Khattak and Shams agree. "I think the biggest mistake we made in the early going was not having as much funding as we originally thought we needed," Shams says. "We were growing so fast [in] the first six to 12 months, faster than what even we had expected, that we didn't have the funding at the time necessary to allow us to grow at the same pace."

    Many of GSM Nation's wholesale clients are based in Asia, the Middle East and Europe. So after a long day at the office, Khattak returns home, and calls begin coming in from the other side of the globe. With Khattak clocking 20-hour days, GSM Nation sidestepped major crises in its first year. Ever the problem-solver, Khattak admits he was constantly putting out smaller fires.

    The greater challenge is that there are practically no barriers to entry in the unlocked cell phone market, so the company must continually raise its game. "[It makes] the landscape insanely competitive; we started a company that was essentially a repository of information for people, and then if they wanted a device they could buy one," Khattak says. "It might sound stupid, but our philosophy is to make sure the person who calls wants and needs what he thinks he does … We are not the cheapest in the industry, but we are the best. A lot of our competitors try to compete on pricing, and they never get anywhere."


    GSM Nation certainly has its fans: A scan of reviews on ResellerRatings.com turns up myriad gushing comments (e.g., "You guys need a Superman cape.").

    Yet cash flow remains the biggest obstacle to growth. "If I had a few million [dollars] more, I would do $200 million in sales this year," Khattak says.

    Meanwhile, operations are lean at the New Haven headquarters. With just 14 employees, the company relies heavily on contractors. The work environment is casual, with "no sense of hierarchy." As for his management style, Khattak says, "I am the kind of person [employees] respect and don't want to disappoint because of my love for them, as opposed to them being scared of me."

    Family Man
    Was Khattak ever frightened of failure? "Absolutely--still am. The fears are different, though. In the beginning, it was more along the lines of, I would have to go back to Pakistan having failed at something, and my friends and family wouldn't understand," he says. Today his fears are of disappointing customers. The fire dance of cash flow to keep product moving means that GSM Nation operates on a precipice.


    So far, Khattak has managed this dance. And it hasn't distracted him from the pleasures of starting a business. "It's incredible coming to work every day and seeing what you have done," he says. "I am obsessed with growing my company to thousands of people ... the fact that I can get the thing I desire and [share] it with my friends and family is a good perk."

    On a Saturday afternoon in San Francisco, the fog has burned off, and it's a gorgeous summer day. Khattak has flown in early for meetings. He speaks rapid-fire, his brain clearly buffering half a dozen ideas that simply can't make it into words fast enough. Despite the demands of GSM Nation, he is already at work on his next venture, eDrop.com, a new way of social shopping for great bargains. "I have assembled an amazing team," he says. "We are going to release our first beta in [September] and hopefully go into a nice round of funding by October."

    Khattak checks, then pockets, his iPhone and bids goodbye. He is taking a meeting at the airport, then flying back to Connecticut the very same day he flew in. Why? In spite of the insane hours he commits to his work, he reserves one day a week to spend with his wife and son to enjoy the fruits of his American dream.

    Marty Jerome is a former columnist for The Boston Globe. He lives in San Francisco.

    Storming the Gates
    When a twentysomething vaults into an industry with no experience, no contacts, very little capital and meager working knowledge about American business, you have to ask, How did he make this magic? Here's what other entrepreneurs can learn from the success of GSM Nation's Ahmed Khattak.

    Do your homework. "It's fine to get into uncharted territories, but once you get in, do your research," Khattak says. "Too many entrepreneurs spend too much time doing risk analysis [before they take action]."

    Find paying customers ASAP. James Boyle, managing director of the Yale Entrepreneurial Institute, where GSM Nation was born, emphasizes the practical: "One of the pieces of advice we give students is to focus on finding the first paying customer as soon as possible. Whether you're familiar with an industry or not, the process of getting someone to pay you money teaches you a great deal about challenges and opportunities in that space."

    Balance the grand vision with immediate action. Ka Mo Lau, co-founder and CFO of advertising tech startup PaperG, calls out fellow entrepreneur and friend Khattak for his ability to move things forward: "Have a grand vision for where you want to go, but like Ahmed, execute on practical, immediate actions that bring you closer to that vision every day."
    There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

    Sayyid Qutb

  • #2
    Randolph

    This is the fellow that was best friends with the guy Sayed Rahmatullah Hashemi

    http://www.nytimes.com/2006/02/26/ma...anted=all&_r=0

    His father is a tribal leader from Karrak affiliated with the Pakistani military and he was at Yale.
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    • #3
      Now compare his outcome and Hashemi's ability with the cronies under Atmar and from the Karzai government that were sponsered under the auspices of a Fulbright at Yale and you can see exactly why the state of Afghanistan is worse than it ever was. The latter folks accomplished little to nothing.

      This son of a Karzai crony for instance, is also mentioned in the article:

      http://www.slate.com/authors.said_hyder_akbar.html

      Same with the Sadat clan and their sibling.

      Basically, its like the embarassment of the Bhutto clan and how Bhutto's father sent all the Bhutto kids abroad and all were lazy unable failures. In this vein, its interesting, the Americans have section of this country called "New England." Perhaps when Karzai is all done with his bang up job, he will have earned Afghanistan the unforunate title of "New Pakistan" since he and his ilk are actively building a replica of Pakistan right next door to Pakistan (only he is doing it at a faster more corrupt rate).
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      • #4
        Here is Khattak in Forbes:

        http://www.forbes.com/sites/elainepo...-your-company/

        I know that Microsoft offered him a nice package but he decided to go the entrepeneur route.

        One day, maybe when this horribly corrupt and insanely inept Afghan government is long gone like the government of Shah Shuja young Afghans who are truly the soul and pride of the nation, derived from the rural masses will also find their way to even higher recognition.

        Then, a day will have come where it wont matter if your last name is Karzai; if you are a corrupt and uneducated plutocrat like Yama Karzai you wont make it. And it wont matter if you are married into Ghani's family or if your dad is the President of Kabul Bank. It also wont be some situation where a US agency is simply sending some random young girl to a college to prove that they are "helping" Afghan women.

        That will only come with complete autonomy - a concept foreign to both Afghanistan and Pakistan at the present.
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        • #5
          His father is a tribal leader
          there is nothing as a tribal leader in this days ,those people just claim a title ,and because of enough money they can "force" others to be called like this .... i know also some khans who dont have a **** and no one recognize them as anything ^^

          so his father is actually the sell off jumbo mumbo for pakis , who betrayed
          kushal baba and should be slaughterd on the spot ..

          Now compare his outcome and Hashemi's ability with the cronies under Atmar and from the Karzai government that were sponsered under the auspices of a Fulbright at Yale and you can see exactly why the state of Afghanistan is worse than it ever was. The latter folks accomplished little to nothing.
          now do you think just being the son of an "important " personality makes you any better ? or able to be better than others .

          its normal that such people can afford to sent their breed to the best schools,
          nothing to get too angry about .

          and that his children are lazy , is nothing you should upset about it , his was father was also not the very brightest in school ,trust me i have personal proof for this ...


          " since he and his ilk are actively building a replica of Pakistan right next door to Pakistan (only he is doing it at a faster more corrupt rate).
          well even your loved taliboon , will have to do this to get the favour of the americans , because they will be dependent , so now do you want to be dependent on palau khor or rool khor ?

          and please be serious , and dont tell me the taliboons are so sophisticated that they will outsmart every one are dependent on no body ... the is about question are the terms and conditions !!!



          young Afghans who are truly the soul and pride of the nation, derived from the rural masses will also find their way to even higher recognition.
          well this was also tried in the past , alot of the very same people were slaughterd and called communists and kafirs ... and your beloved rural masses ,will be at the same level like in the last 50 years , as long some mullah sahib and some khan sahib tells him that its okay to be poor that some how he has got to accept his kismat bla bla bla bla , and trust me as soon you open a manufactory or any other producing facility , they will boycot/blow it up , or demend "their " share in it ... ( taliboon did this and kharzai well we all know it ...)

          Then, a day will have come where it wont matter if your last name is Karzai; if you are a corrupt and uneducated plutocrat like Yama Karzai you wont make it. And it wont matter if you are married into Ghani's family or if your dad is the President of Kabul Ban
          did it matter before ??? there was a time when karzai were selling chickens in a restaurant ... and he was a nobody .. and there was a time he was working for the cia as a young man ...

          it mattered always in the past , and it will matter as long people tend to talk about "tribal" leaders and rural masses .... those people are not poor and uneducated by choice and the "simple and clean traditional "life is not something most people do by choice , offer every one of them to come here in a western country , no one would say no ...

          That will only come with complete autonomy - a concept foreign to both Afghanistan and Pakistan at the present.
          there is a difference between autonomy and independence ...

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          • #6
            You don't know anything about tribalism in Afghanistan....we have triba leaders,tribal wars,assassins,meetings,rule of land.....afghan goverment has no control in Afghanistan....the American also not they can only kill them but never rule Afghanistan
            High achievement always takes place in the framework of high expectation.

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            • #7
              mashallah , how good you know everything about quamiat son , and how important it is , and you know everything about quamiat and his role in the current and past confllicts and problems .

              live in on in your illusion , i agree i dont know nothing you are probably the baba of all quams , and master mind ...

              triba leaders,tribal wars,assassins,meetings,rule of land.
              yes and again i fail to recognize reality but you dont ,espeacially by describing a system and a world , which is gone a long time ago and based on the reports of some british anthropologists .

              i declare you the ultimate afghanistan expert , even i highly doubt that you lived a continued time in the country you claim so much knowledge about in ... let alone being born their or raised ....

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              • #8
                Hey hijo,why dont you come over to paktyka,paktya....and face the reality....or even participate,we need some shooting practice.
                High achievement always takes place in the framework of high expectation.

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                • #9
                  son if you would know who i am and how many real paktya wal i know , i guess you little boy would just smile shy and look for cover . but no problem bachaia zwanimark , i will not make you feel too stupid ...

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                  • #10
                    I think General Zia's "badroh" has thoroughly permeated in the soul and flesh of some here ----Barakzai is at the head of the list of that jehadi cadre---lol

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by abassinafghan View Post
                      there is nothing as a tribal leader in this days ,those people just claim a title ,and because of enough money they can "force" others to be called like this .... i know also some khans who dont have a **** and no one recognize them as anything ^^

                      so his father is actually the sell off jumbo mumbo for pakis , who betrayed
                      kushal baba and should be slaughterd on the spot ..



                      now do you think just being the son of an "important " personality makes you any better ? or able to be better than others .

                      its normal that such people can afford to sent their breed to the best schools,
                      nothing to get too angry about .

                      and that his children are lazy , is nothing you should upset about it , his was father was also not the very brightest in school ,trust me i have personal proof for this ...




                      well even your loved taliboon , will have to do this to get the favour of the americans , because they will be dependent , so now do you want to be dependent on palau khor or rool khor ?

                      and please be serious , and dont tell me the taliboons are so sophisticated that they will outsmart every one are dependent on no body ... the is about question are the terms and conditions !!!





                      well this was also tried in the past , alot of the very same people were slaughterd and called communists and kafirs ... and your beloved rural masses ,will be at the same level like in the last 50 years , as long some mullah sahib and some khan sahib tells him that its okay to be poor that some how he has got to accept his kismat bla bla bla bla , and trust me as soon you open a manufactory or any other producing facility , they will boycot/blow it up , or demend "their " share in it ... ( taliboon did this and kharzai well we all know it ...)



                      did it matter before ??? there was a time when karzai were selling chickens in a restaurant ... and he was a nobody .. and there was a time he was working for the cia as a young man ...

                      it mattered always in the past , and it will matter as long people tend to talk about "tribal" leaders and rural masses .... those people are not poor and uneducated by choice and the "simple and clean traditional "life is not something most people do by choice , offer every one of them to come here in a western country , no one would say no ...



                      there is a difference between autonomy and independence ...

                      Salamoona,

                      When I say tribal leader - I dont mean that its hereditary like back in the old days. For example, I know that Gul Agha is not a traditional tribal leader - really his strength came from the number of topakyaan he has and some of his father's fighters.

                      I think you are correct about the tribal folks in Pakistan, except in FATA. What happened was the actual original tribal leaders, including Khushal Khan's own descendents and Arbab's and Mohmands that opposed the British were deprived of property and leadership. Their positions were given to more pliable individuals whose descendents are the feudal lords of today's Pakistan.

                      Perhaps I should use the term warlord or thug.

                      Also, I never said the Taliban were sophisticated or super human. I dont know why words are being put in my mouth.

                      Irrespective of whether everyone in the world wants to come to America or Cananda (this is a very human trait - or a very survivalistic trait (the bees come to honey)) a people will find their way in time if they achieve complete autonomy and independence.

                      One thing that I will ask you to consider is the following scenario. Come, let us have a conversation and reason together:

                      So you are telling me that the Mullah will keep the people backwards. And it is true that many folks all over the world, not just in Muslim regions, use religion as one of many tools to deprive other people of their rights and progress. Let us agree that there is going to be a period of time, due to all the repeated insults Afghans have suffered, where some locals will resent and be suspicious of anything that the outside world tries to offer. Or perhaps, local players and other nations will try to use this to their advantage.

                      Instead, what it appears to me, and I may be wrong, is that you are looking for a leader or a Pashtun messiah that is going to come along - be completely for and by the people and and rapidly develop Afghanistan.

                      Instead, the reality is that once the land is free, its going to go through doldrums and there will be infighting. Maybe the mullah will, for a generation or two do his best to stop progress. But eventually, the people, if they dont have anywhere else to focus their energy, will learn to balance the mullah and remind him of what his role is and what their role is.

                      The Mullah will say: doctors are trying to give your kids polio.
                      People may ardently listen or even fight on behalf of the mullah. Why are they doing this? Because they associate this with intervention and kharijaan in their area. People will die. And this may happen a few times for years. Eventually, a young man and woman is going to be born in each area that is going to have to struggle and probably even lose their life to set the balance right again.

                      Even when you look at Iran (I know you dont like Iran and that is fine - just for discussion sake) - first all the people, including Tudeh backed the Mullahs and they won their revolution. They were very radical for a period of time. They eventually voted in more liberal people like Khatami. When outsider powers began to poke them and prod them and sanction them they started to back their Basseejee forces and the whole country side backed Ahmedinijaad. Outside intervention in any place tends to radicalize people and give more voice to those who politicize a defensive posture.

                      It seems like you think development can happen in 20 years. The reality is if a super power like America and other nations states take nearly a century (or 3 in Americas case) to become a developed power - why is that you cannot have patience and understand that rapid boom developments are never healthy either? Look at teh Arab states.

                      I have a good story I will PM you.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Toramana View Post
                        I think General Zia's "badroh" has thoroughly permeated in the soul and flesh of some here ----Barakzai is at the head of the list of that jehadi cadre---lol
                        There you go again, all nutty. Is it because I stated a fact about the Bhutto family? Why is it that you are so party affiliate programmed? Its like you have a guide book or a preprogramming that generates auto responses when your party stances are threatened. When is your mind going to expand beyond these trivialties?
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                        • #13
                          salam doktor sahib

                          When I say tribal leader - I dont mean that its hereditary like back in the old days. For example, I know that Gul Agha is not a traditional tribal leader - really his strength came from the number of topakyaan he has and some of his father's fighters.
                          yes that is a much more appropriate term to use and a much better real definition

                          our problem lies in our structure of what is called the rural masses , as long people are dependent on farming for others ,getting a share on which they barely survive , nothing will change , especially not if the same khan sahib is paying the local mullah ...

                          this concept this structure is out of time , and the results of this anachronism we see today ... of course the wars and foreign interventions had a lot to do with it , but at the end if you think about it came so far , you will see it had the same source....

                          that doesnt mean we have to wear jeans and jackets , it doesnt mean we have to adopt a foreign concept or way of life , but we have to recognize that so far this kind of society didnt brought us forward ...

                          you know our people can be very tang nazara , you can have great ideas , you can be very capablle , but if you have people who consider theirself something better because their fathers used to be big landowners , they will just tell you it is wrong and unappropriate , because they are jealous . never underestimate tang nazari in our country ...

                          besides even alot have changed , and those farmers will not survive ,because they can not compete with imported wheat and powerd milk ... the underlying structure .... is still there ...


                          unfourtently , in our country religion is so much abused and used , that i think allah tallah is really angry at us , and therefore we are going through all this .

                          what will you say to people who make ziarats of mardar arabs graves in khandahar ???
                          people say they died for islam , and came from so far away ...

                          do we have not enough shaids on our own soil ?

                          As long our people are not educated ( something alot of people are against ... ) as long the people (as you said , dont come to their own conclusions and start to think by their own ) nothing will change ...

                          but the problem is we will have no time to wait a century till than it will be to late , if you hear wahabis and other people , who tell you day in day out , dont care about the matters of this life , dont care about that and this , this is not important . dont care about this history , but the history of the sahabas ... what do you expect ? if you see your neigbours thrive while we are dying ? people taking wrong pride in past days ? today india is better off than we a hundred times ( as a state and nation ) and we have people here who bragg about how afghans invaded india ?

                          i see great potential in our country ,and our people , but i also know the downsides ...
                          but as i see our potential , so does see our enemies , and they use our weaknesses against us ....

                          and if you consider that alot of turnarounds ( take prussia in the 16th/17 century , meji japan, the or even china ,or malaysia )it took maybe 50 years ? thats not a long time for a country .

                          i am sure that even some people are there who will only change for money , the majority are sick and tired of this life and the war , alot of people have seen iran , or pakistan .
                          let alone the west .

                          do you not think about how they came so far , and we lack so much behind ? just compared with the iranians and the pakis ...

                          think about it , and think about it clearly , our people are very cheap to buy unfourtently .... tangnazar ,and soo hungry that they dont realize what they are doing ..

                          if you like we can exchange numbers/skype via pm and talk , my english is not the best and alot of thing i can not express in this language .... i can tell you also alot of stories and maybe give you contact to some people , who will be interessting to talk with ...

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by abassinafghan View Post
                            salam doktor sahib



                            yes that is a much more appropriate term to use and a much better real definition

                            our problem lies in our structure of what is called the rural masses , as long people are dependent on farming for others ,getting a share on which they barely survive , nothing will change , especially not if the same khan sahib is paying the local mullah ...

                            this concept this structure is out of time , and the results of this anachronism we see today ... of course the wars and foreign interventions had a lot to do with it , but at the end if you think about it came so far , you will see it had the same source....

                            that doesnt mean we have to wear jeans and jackets , it doesnt mean we have to adopt a foreign concept or way of life , but we have to recognize that so far this kind of society didnt brought us forward ...

                            you know our people can be very tang nazara , you can have great ideas , you can be very capablle , but if you have people who consider theirself something better because their fathers used to be big landowners , they will just tell you it is wrong and unappropriate , because they are jealous . never underestimate tang nazari in our country ...

                            besides even alot have changed , and those farmers will not survive ,because they can not compete with imported wheat and powerd milk ... the underlying structure .... is still there ...


                            unfourtently , in our country religion is so much abused and used , that i think allah tallah is really angry at us , and therefore we are going through all this .

                            what will you say to people who make ziarats of mardar arabs graves in khandahar ???
                            people say they died for islam , and came from so far away ...

                            do we have not enough shaids on our own soil ?

                            As long our people are not educated ( something alot of people are against ... ) as long the people (as you said , dont come to their own conclusions and start to think by their own ) nothing will change ...

                            but the problem is we will have no time to wait a century till than it will be to late , if you hear wahabis and other people , who tell you day in day out , dont care about the matters of this life , dont care about that and this , this is not important . dont care about this history , but the history of the sahabas ... what do you expect ? if you see your neigbours thrive while we are dying ? people taking wrong pride in past days ? today india is better off than we a hundred times ( as a state and nation ) and we have people here who bragg about how afghans invaded india ?

                            i see great potential in our country ,and our people , but i also know the downsides ...
                            but as i see our potential , so does see our enemies , and they use our weaknesses against us ....

                            and if you consider that alot of turnarounds ( take prussia in the 16th/17 century , meji japan, the or even china ,or malaysia )it took maybe 50 years ? thats not a long time for a country .

                            i am sure that even some people are there who will only change for money , the majority are sick and tired of this life and the war , alot of people have seen iran , or pakistan .
                            let alone the west .

                            do you not think about how they came so far , and we lack so much behind ? just compared with the iranians and the pakis ...

                            think about it , and think about it clearly , our people are very cheap to buy unfourtently .... tangnazar ,and soo hungry that they dont realize what they are doing ..

                            if you like we can exchange numbers/skype via pm and talk , my english is not the best and alot of thing i can not express in this language .... i can tell you also alot of stories and maybe give you contact to some people , who will be interessting to talk with ...
                            Will be in touch this weekend. Patient load here in the hospital is a little high these days.

                            The story I have to tell you is actually about the person discussed in this article and something i witnessed directly. Its a first hand account you will find entertaining, enlightening, and baffeling and perhaps a bit depressing.

                            Khodaay Pamaan
                            Last edited by BarakzaiAbdali; 12-18-2012, 06:58 PM.
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                            • #15
                              Abasina,
                              Tang nazar is a human trait. It exists in Americans as well all of humanity.

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