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    Salaam everyone...

    So I'm planning for a trip to Kabul to see the environment and whether I like it or not for a future job when I graduate and also to visit my family and relatives.

    Is it possible to be safe in Kabul? lol Sorry if it comes off as a weird question.

    Please share any advice and tips that you may have. I could really use it. Thanks.

  • #2
    Don't act foreign and you'll be fine.

    Good luck.
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    Pro-Black is Pro-Righteous!

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    • #3
      It is much better than before.
      Can you speak Pashto or Dari? That helps a lot if you will travel using buses and taxis.
      You do draw attention if you travel well healed (expensive car) but other wise not that bad. If you venture out farther let's say maidan shahr way, I know some people are more cautious. Similarly if you head along Ghazniroad south, some say it is risky. I wouldn't wonder that way unless people know me there, or I am traveling in company, safer that way.

      I travel often to paghman and feel safer in a kabul corolla. But at night I always worry about being stopped by someone claiming to be security blah blah.

      If you don't draw attention, you are less likely to be stopped along remote roads (by criminally minded) apart from heavy stares from the police, who are good at many nefarious things apart from intimidating looks.

      When I travel out side kabul, I don't make announcements, dont call anyone, just travel with a relative or friend or if alone then use public transport.

      In Kabul it self, you can safely walk around micro rayan at early night, or go to arya city, the new building complex, or walk around sharenaw. Guaranteed you will be checked if you go into any hotel, or if you want to go shopping, say in Kabul city mall, such places security is alert. I walked through sharenaw park one evening, it was 'thrilling'

      Further out in the suburbs, againifyou remain inconspicuous, you can walk around, during the evening. Young people hang around, meet friends, again reasonable hours. Very late, and police will ask questions, maybe more!!!

      Three weeks ago I travelled from Kabul to zabul, now that's my ancestral home, I was, to be honest afraid to travel because the notoriety of zabul badlands, but fore more obvious reasons that by time I get near my destination it would be dark; even with my documented makarov, and my friends documented AK, and connections. But what good are either when you are stopped at night on a remote road by some bad asses.

      So in kabul you are alright but BE CAREFUL!!!
      Last edited by torkham; 07-03-2012, 04:31 PM.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by torkham View Post
        It is much better than before.
        Can you speak Pashto or Dari? That helps a lot if you will travel using buses and taxis.
        You do draw attention if you travel well healed (expensive car) but other wise not that bad. If you venture out farther let's say maidan shahr way, I know some people are more cautious. Similarly if you head along Ghazniroad south, some say it is risky. I wouldn't wonder that way unless people know me there, or I am traveling in company, safer that way.

        I travel often to paghman and feel safer in a kabul corolla. But at night I always worry about being stopped by someone claiming to be security blah blah.

        If you don't draw attention, you are less likely to be stopped along remote roads (by criminally minded) apart from heavy stares from the police, who are good at many nefarious things apart from intimidating looks.

        When I travel out side kabul, I don't make announcements, dont call anyone, just travel with a relative or friend or if alone then use public transport.

        In Kabul it self, you can safely walk around micro rayan at early night, or go to arya city, the new building complex, or walk around sharenaw. Guaranteed you will be checked if you go into any hotel, or if you want to go shopping, say in Kabul city mall, such places security is alert. I walked through sharenaw park one evening, it was 'thrilling'

        Further out in the suburbs, againifyou remain inconspicuous, you can walk around, during the evening. Young people hang around, meet friends, again reasonable hours. Very late, and police will ask questions, maybe more!!!

        Three weeks ago I travelled from Kabul to zabul, now that's my ancestral home, I was, to be honest afraid to travel because the notoriety of zabul badlands, but fore more obvious reasons that by time I get near my destination it would be dark; even with my documented makarov, and my friends documented AK, and connections. But what good are either when you are stopped at night on a remote road by some bad asses.

        So in kabul you are alright but BE CAREFUL!!!
        That was great advice. Thanks a lot Torkham wror. How do I prevent from getting sick--anyone know? lol

        Thanks :-)

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        • #5
          Originally posted by shadowgoverner
          take bottled water with you or eat alot of onion.
          Cool--yeah I heard about the onion bit because I guess onion and garlic are natural antibiotics.

          Any other places I should visit? How is Kabul during Ramadan?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by shadowgoverner
            during ramadan? it will be hot.
            do you go to visit relatives or are on your own?
            other places?you mean other cities?
            Yeah I figured it would be hot too but I am guessing stores close down early? Do they ever open up in the evening? And I would be living with my relatives of course. Yeah I mean anything worth seeing while I am there. :-)

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            • #7
              dont behave like a westernized wimp.
              Originally posted by Firdousi
              Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Shamlawar Khurasani View Post
                dont behave like a westernized wimp.
                lol okay.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by shadowgoverner
                  if you are with relatives than it will be OK.
                  you can visit Qargha,couple of parks in makroyan,baghe bala,kabul museum,kabul city center.
                  these are just a couple of things worth seeing in kbl ,im not that big fan of kbl.

                  can you visit other cities? or you only wanna stay in kbl?
                  Thanks! I wrote these all down. Although I am a bit afraid of argha after that incident a few days ago. Yeah I can visit other cities too. Are there any you recommend?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by shamla12 View Post
                    Thanks! I wrote these all down. Although I am a bit afraid of argha after that incident a few days ago. Yeah I can visit other cities too. Are there any you recommend?
                    Visit Kandahar city.
                    Even Adobe Photoshop can't change me.

                    A line[Durrand line] of hatred that raised a wall between the two brothers -Hamid Karzai

                    For generations, the Hindus of India prayed for deliverance from "the venom of the cobra, the teeth of the tiger and the vengeance of the Afghan."


                    The men of Kábul and Khilj also went home; and whenever they were questioned about the Musulmáns of the Kohistán (the mountains), and how matters stood there, they said, "Don't call it Kohistán, but Afghánistán; for there is nothing there but Afgháns and disturbances." Thus it is clear that for this reason the people of the country call their home in their own language Afghánistán, and themselves Afgháns. The people of India call them Patán; but the reason for this is not known. But it occurs to me, that when, under the rule of Muhammadan sovereigns, Musulmáns first came to the city of Patná, and dwelt there, the people of India (for that reason) called them Patáns—but God knows!

                    -Ferishta, 1560–1620

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Admin Khan View Post
                      Visit Kandahar city.
                      Hi

                      Yeah I would love to visit Kandahar actually. Is the road to Kandahar safe?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by shadowgoverner
                        jalalabad is relatively safe but will be warmer.
                        Cool. I'll mention it to my relatives.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by shamla12 View Post
                          Hi

                          Yeah I would love to visit Kandahar actually. Is the road to Kandahar safe?
                          For the most part, yes.

                          Thousands travel daily, haven't heard anything bad about it yet. In fact, they were paved recently so it should be a smooth ride. In Kandahar, you will have the time of your life. :-)
                          Even Adobe Photoshop can't change me.

                          A line[Durrand line] of hatred that raised a wall between the two brothers -Hamid Karzai

                          For generations, the Hindus of India prayed for deliverance from "the venom of the cobra, the teeth of the tiger and the vengeance of the Afghan."


                          The men of Kábul and Khilj also went home; and whenever they were questioned about the Musulmáns of the Kohistán (the mountains), and how matters stood there, they said, "Don't call it Kohistán, but Afghánistán; for there is nothing there but Afgháns and disturbances." Thus it is clear that for this reason the people of the country call their home in their own language Afghánistán, and themselves Afgháns. The people of India call them Patán; but the reason for this is not known. But it occurs to me, that when, under the rule of Muhammadan sovereigns, Musulmáns first came to the city of Patná, and dwelt there, the people of India (for that reason) called them Patáns—but God knows!

                          -Ferishta, 1560–1620

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Admin Khan View Post
                            For the most part, yes.

                            Thousands travel daily, haven't heard anything bad about it yet. In fact, they were paved recently so it should be a smooth ride. In Kandahar, you will have the time of your life. :-)
                            Really? I'm really excited to go..

                            What types of things do you reccommend doing in Kandahar? Are there any IEDs on the road to Kandahar? :/

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                            • #15
                              Lol yeah I'm paranoid. :-)

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