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    Musafari is often interpreted as 'separateness' in our traditional Pashtu literature. There may not be such a concept of Musafari existing in the western culture though, yet I sometimes wonder that what might be the possible closest word in English for Musafari.

    Don't expect you to say it's traveling or voyage.
    Last edited by Nazar; 06-09-2012, 04:58 AM.
    "Da bado sakha sha zezhi, da sho sakha washa zezhi"

    - Hajjanai Adeh

  • #2
    I think expatriation is the best word.

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    • #3
      Some things don't really have an exact translation. Amongst the Pashtuns in the Arabian Gulf a musafir is someone compelled to live away from home to earn a living. The expression has a very poetic ring to it in those circumstances. The most popular tv programmes on Khyber and Shamshad have musafirs being interviewed on the street or by phone where they make song requests or send messages back to their family.
      Last edited by tor_khan; 06-09-2012, 08:48 AM. Reason: iPad gets its own back

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      • #4
        Originally posted by tor_khan View Post
        Some things don't really have an exact translation. Amongst the Pashtuns in the Arabian Gulf a musafir is a some compelled to live away from home to earn a living. The expression has a very poetic ring to it in those circumstances. The most popular tv programmes on Khyber and Shamshad have musafirs being interviewed on the street or by phone where they make song requests or send messages back to their family.
        Thanks though. You have just defined who Musafar is. I am in quest of finding the possible closest word (not literal meaning) for it in English.
        "Da bado sakha sha zezhi, da sho sakha washa zezhi"

        - Hajjanai Adeh

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Friend View Post
          I think expatriation is the best word.
          But it isn't as poetic as in Pashtu.
          "Da bado sakha sha zezhi, da sho sakha washa zezhi"

          - Hajjanai Adeh

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          • #6
            Well there could be many definitions of this word, You have to defined it first in Pashto if you are looking for a particular meaning of the word.

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            • #7
              Judging from your description above, the archaic meaning of the English word 'alien' would seem to come close. Of course, the problem is that nowadays people associate the word 'alien' almost exclusively with beings from outer space.
              اَؤ په کور کښى غُلام مُدام پاتى کيږى نه،خو زوى په کور کښى مُدام پاتى کيږى

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              • #8
                There is a...word.

                Its been used in many English...poems.

                Musafari..Traveller.

                "Is there anybody there?" said the Traveller,
                Knocking on the moonlit door;
                And his horse in the silence champed the grass
                Of the forest's ferny floor;
                And a bird flew up out of the turret,
                Above the Traveller's head:
                And he smote upon the door again a second time;
                "Is there anybody there?" he said.
                But no one descended to the Traveller;
                No head from the leaf-fringed sill
                Leaned over and looked into his grey eyes,
                Where he stood perplexed and still.
                But only a host of phantom listeners
                That dwelt in the lone house then
                Stood listening in the quiet of the moonlight
                To that voice from the world of men:
                Stood thronging the faint moonbeams on the dark stair,
                That goes down to the empty hall,
                Hearkening in an air stirred and shaken
                By the lonely Traveller's call.
                And he felt in his heart their strangeness,
                Their stillness answering his cry,
                While his horse moved, cropping the dark turf,
                'Neath the starred and leafy sky;
                For he suddenly smote on the door, even
                Louder, and lifted his head:--
                "Tell them I came, and no one answered,
                That I kept my word," he said.
                Never the least stir made the listeners,
                Though every word he spake
                Fell echoing through the shadowiness of the still house
                From the one man left awake:
                Ay, they heard his foot upon the stirrup,
                And the sound of iron on stone,
                And how the silence surged softly backward,
                When the plunging hoofs were gone.


                Walter de la Mare
                I believe the sun should never set upon an argument.
                I believe forgiveness is the key to your unhappiness.

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                • #9
                  I Am The Traveler


                  This poem 'I Am The Traveler' has as main theme: Adventure.

                  Waking up quite early in the morning,
                  Readying myself for another new day,
                  Leaving another house without warning,
                  Once more, it is time to be on my way.

                  A face marked with two day old stubble,
                  Tired morning eyes make room for a smile,
                  It is time to reach that daily dose of trouble,
                  To explore the odd and absurd is my style.
                  The traveler is not hindered by any sort of weather,
                  The more extreme the more challenge one sees,
                  Luckily I am not even nearly as light as a feather,
                  Otherwise I would have difficulty with a breeze.

                  Not a day goes by without exploring another place,
                  It is a waste to sit still, doing nothing at all,
                  As the traveler it are the mysteries that I embrace,
                  I shall keep on going until the day I fall.

                  With quality boots I move through each town,
                  Meeting new generous people here and there,
                  No obstacle in my way will bring me down,
                  Note; it is far more interesting not to prepare.

                  As a traveler I travel in many different ways,
                  With each way comes its interesting things,
                  I love the times when I am gone for days,
                  Enjoying the atmosphere that each city brings.

                  The best thing is that my destination is unknown,
                  Those who ask where I go are left a bit confused,
                  They patiently listen to each story its adventurous tone,
                  The impression on their face suggests they are amused.

                  I find myself in awkward circumstances once in a while,
                  At those particular times one should break the ice,
                  Laughed at or laughed with, as long as there is a smile,
                  A happy face makes me want to do anything twice.

                  People that one meets as a traveler is rewarding in itself,
                  The many different personalities and stories are fascinating,
                  Yet I still have to meet those who are just like myself,
                  There seem to be just a few who share my thing.

                  A call out to travelers out there who experience the same,
                  One traveler meeting another would be an interesting event,
                  I will search until I discover another one his or her name,
                  Every second spend traveling is time well spent.

                  With every day of traveling comes nightfall with a goodnight rest,
                  I do my best to seek out a bed, preferably the one that I own,
                  Sufficient rest is important for an optimal shape on a next quest,
                  Sleep now, rest, gather strength, ready yourself for the unknown.
                  I Am The Traveler

                  - Daniel C.V. -
                  I believe the sun should never set upon an argument.
                  I believe forgiveness is the key to your unhappiness.

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                  • #10
                    I am not that familiar with English literature though but these poems give me the impression that they portray the travelers of the era when there were no modern means of transportation and one had to pass through towns, mountains and villages on foot or either on a horse to reach the destination and this would take them weeks and even months.
                    Musafari in contemporary Pashtu literature has a completely different meaning. A phenomenon of living (not necessarily keeping traveling) away from a lover, family or friends in another country or city.

                    Btw, if we stick to your interpretation of Musafari which is obviously travelling, then how can we translate this Pashtu poem into English?

                    "Musafari wa khwarray kor ta raza janana
                    ta yadawam janana, ma yadawa janana"
                    "Da bado sakha sha zezhi, da sho sakha washa zezhi"

                    - Hajjanai Adeh

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                    • #11
                      unnecessarily emotional attachments are always poetic. a traveler is at home wherever he goes because the same God that created his country has created the rest of the world too. sad is paying a price from being separated from people one loves. that too, only because life is so short.

                      I am no bird, and no nest ensnares me.

                      non commercial would cost less if he was in charge himself which he plans on doing. right now it's n herat but soon it will be in qanadahar.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by DaZahroJaam. View Post
                        sad is paying a price from being separated from people one loves. that too, only because life is so short.
                        I am talking exactly about that price, Mr. Philosopher. What is it called in English?
                        "Da bado sakha sha zezhi, da sho sakha washa zezhi"

                        - Hajjanai Adeh

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Nazar View Post
                          I am not that familiar with English literature though but these poems give me the impression that they portray the travelers of the era when there were no modern means of transportation and one had to pass through towns, mountains and villages on foot or either on a horse to reach the destination and this would take them weeks and even months.
                          Musafari in contemporary Pashtu literature has a completely different meaning. A phenomenon of living (not necessarily keeping traveling) away from a lover, family or friends in another country or city.

                          Btw, if we stick to your interpretation of Musafari which is obviously travelling, then how can we translate this Pashtu poem into English?

                          "Musafari wa khwarray kor ta raza janana
                          ta yadawam janana, ma yadawa janana"


                          The poetry is...talking

                          about a person out of...place

                          far from...home.

                          Gypsies are called...traveler's.

                          Meaning Musafirs...as

                          their always on the...road.

                          We have a lot of Irish...traveler's.

                          Who live a life...a bit

                          like the...kuchian.
                          I believe the sun should never set upon an argument.
                          I believe forgiveness is the key to your unhappiness.

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                          • #14

                            By a route obscure and lonely,
                            Haunted by ill angels only,
                            Where an Eidolon, named Night,
                            On a black throne reigns upright,
                            I have reached these lands but newly
                            From an ultimate dim Thule —
                            From a wild weird clime, that lieth, sublime,
                            Out of Space — out of Time.

                            Bottomless vales and boundless floods,
                            And chasms, and caves, and Titian woods,
                            With forms that no man can discover
                            For the dews that drip all over;
                            Mountains toppling evermore
                            Into seas without a shore;
                            Seas that restlessly aspire,
                            Surging, unto skies of fire;
                            Lakes that endlessly outspread
                            Their lone waters, lone and dead, —
                            Their still waters, still and chilly
                            With the snows of the lolling lily.

                            By a route obscure and lonely,
                            Haunted by ill angels only,
                            Where an Eidolon, named Night,
                            On a black throne reigns upright,
                            I have reached these lands but newly
                            From an ultimate dim Thule.

                            By the lakes that thus outspread
                            Their lone waters, lone and dead, —
                            Their sad waters, sad and chilly
                            With the snows of the lolling lily, —
                            By the mountains — near the river
                            Murmuring lowly, murmuring ever, —
                            By the gray woods, — by the swamp
                            Where the toad and the newt encamp, —
                            By the dismal tarns and pools
                            Where dwell the Ghouls, —
                            By each spot the most unholy —
                            In each nook most melancholy, —
                            There the traveller meets aghast
                            Sheeted Memories of the Past —
                            Shrouded forms that start and sigh
                            As they pass the wanderer by —
                            White-robed forms of friends long given,
                            In agony, to the worms, and Heaven.

                            By a route obscure and lonely,
                            Haunted by ill angels only,
                            Where an Eidolon, named Night,
                            On a black throne reigns upright,
                            I have reached these lands but newly
                            From an ultimate dim Thule —

                            For the heart whose woes are legion
                            ’T is a peaceful, soothing region —
                            For the spirit that walks in shadow
                            ’T is — oh ’t is an Eldorado!
                            But the traveler, traveling through it,
                            May not — dare not openly view it;
                            Never its mysteries are exposed
                            To the weak human eye unclosed;
                            So wills its King, who hath forbid
                            The uplifting of the fringéd lid;
                            And thus the sad Soul that here passes
                            Beholds it but through darkened glasses.

                            By a route obscure and lonely,
                            Haunted by ill angels only,
                            Where an Eidolon, named Night,
                            On a black throne reigns upright,
                            I have wandered home but newly
                            From this ultimate dim Thule.
                            I believe the sun should never set upon an argument.
                            I believe forgiveness is the key to your unhappiness.

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