Originally posted by al-arab
Firstly let's clarify one thing; Saudi Arabia is not a race, it is a nationality, I am sure you know this but to cry racism in such a context is faulty.
I don't hate Arabs at all, my mother is Arab and thus my entire maternal family are Arab. What I have a problem with is the Ignorant Mentality amongst Arabs; especially the one that pervades in Saudia Arabia and to a lesser degree other Arab countries. Similarly I'm against the mentality that pervades Pashtuns that somehow they're sinless and without faults, if you observe many Pashtuns here believe that there have never been Pashtuns who raped women or enslaved people. Which is ridiculous and historically false. Arabs too have a disgusting mentality that women have little or no place in society and that if she's not covered she deserves to be a victim of rape and abuse. This is disgusting. Criticism is necessary; because without criticism people will never address problems. Arabs It is only by criticizing that people realize that a problem is a problem. Criticism is just acknowledging reality as it is.
For example you're denying that Saudi women died because the Mutawaa prevented them a chance to escape the building because they weren't veiled; This is TRUTH, and it was even reported by Al-Madinah Newspaper in Saudia!!!
The fact you'll even deny such a thing only demonstrates precisely the problem of what happens when people do not hear criticism; they create a false reality which they avoid and deny any responsibility!
When you say things like "since you're a Sufi lover" this is precisely Wahhabi influence; Because if you know anything about the history of Hijaz, Sufism was centered around this regin until the Saudis started to push Wahhabism and suppress Sufi practices. I am not a "Sufi Lover" per say; but I support Sufism because it gives people hope and builds peoples sense of love and respect for each other. How many Sufis do you see suicide bombing and killing innocent civilians? Maybe they have some questionable practices; but God will handle them. At least they respect the rights of others. So it is not "Sufi loving"; but rather opposing the corruption and immoral acts of Wahhabis which is why I support Sufis.
The Hijaz has a deep history and connection with Sufism; and the fact you have an animosity with Sufis means that either you're influenced by Wahhabism and forgot your heritage or you're not actually a Hijazi.
And no, the extremists didn't come from "Yemen, Egypt, and Iraqis"; They came from Saudis and spread to these countries. For example in Egypt, Ikhwans exiled from Egypt were given refuge in Saudi Arabia; while in Saudia they were taught Wahhabist ideology and then went back to Egypt and promoted it with Saudi Assistance and Money. Likewise with Iraq and Yemen. No one ever heard of Suicide attacks in Yemen until yemenis who were raised in Saudi or learned from Saudi funded Shaikhs taught them about it. Now they're killing their own Yemeni brothers. Blame is due where it is due.
And yes I agree with Soldat on this issue; Modern Saudi Arabia is a creation of the British; the British helped the Saud family acquire power and rebel against the Khilafah. This is documented by even Saudi Historians. Read the book " Mudun Al Milh" by Abdul Rahman Munif; it describes the entire rise of the Saudis and their help by the British to fight the Khilafah.
even Islamists agree that Saudi rabia must be abolished So just because Soldat's a communist doesn't mean that everything he says is wrong. If Soldat said the sky is blue does that mean it's no longer blue because he's a communist?


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