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    In the above news governament authorities of norway snatched a 3 year old son from their parents, who are indians. Because the kid was eating with his hands and also because the three year was sleeping in the same bed with his father. According to law an infant should'nt sleep with his parents. And if the kid is found eating with hands , he would be taken into governament custody untill he/she turns to 18. Norway is listed as top country for raising children in some UN list. This is how in west they raise their children? . This a biggest cruelty you can inflict on parents and kids by separting them...and this indian kid would be given to some couple for adoption, that couple can be gay.
    This particular law may not be present in UK, Canada, australia, US and other westren countries but there are similar laws about child care, child abuse blah blah. Now if you guys are comfortable then tell me , does your famillies or family friends have faced these kind of situations. I mean you give a slap to the kid and police is at your doorstep. How much it is difficult to live there as pashtun? I mean we pashtuns also eat our meal with hands and when i was kid, i used to sleep with my mother or grandmother on 'kuts' (kut in pashto, charpai in urdu, we dont sleep on beds in villages) listening to the children stories of pashto untill i become sleeping...and in norway they arrest you for it. I have grown up playing in streets and grounds of my village, my clothes always used to be dusty and muddy and i did'nt wear shoes. I think in such cases they would arrest parents. How you guys have managed to live there? What would be future of your kids?

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    Ive heard of an albanian muslim family who was split up because of these laws in texas, US. The father was seen kissing his child who was about 3-4 years old. All their kids were taken away from them and given to a christian couple who raised them as christians.
    I also know of and afghan family whose son, when he was a teenager, went to the police and told them that his parents hit him. They did not arrest anyone because they did not have any proof of any abuse. The other kids were interviewed and they all said they are fine in the family and the parents are loving parents. The teenager after 2 years admitted he lied and the family took him back. I asked him why he lied and he said they would not let me do the things that I wanted.

    So luffy its not only that you can not use that kind of discipline for your kids but also your kids have power over you. I also know of this farsiwan afghan family whose wife is telling her husband that if she is not allowed to do what she wants she will divorce and take the kids and would not allow for him to see the kids. So he is held hostage.

    Many kids who go into a foster or adoptive home are sexually or physically abused. To adopt you must prove you have the financial means to take care of the kid and foster parents are given money by the governmnet to take care of the kids and they are passed around from foster home to foster home. The whole system is messed up.

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    • #3
      This is really stupid, meybe there were more going one, than just this two things,
      I personaly think when the parents can not take care for there child and molesting them the chiled should be removed. but not on stupid silly things like this, and no in Belgium I have seen parents slaping children in public nobody called the police....

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      • #4
        Norway is a beautiful ,developed and a social welfare state. Because of such laws they have reached to this position.

        Pashtuns because of their such habits and likings are still living in stone age and if all Pashtuns are allowed to settle in Norway , all of them including their dogs will prefer to live in Norway and leave their land of the so called traditions and dirty habits.
        Last edited by Badlun; 05-21-2012, 03:14 PM.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by osho View Post
          Norway is a beautiful ,developed and a social welfare state. Because of such laws they have reached to this position.

          Pashtuns because of their such habits and likings are still living in stone age and if all Pashtuns are allowed to settle in Norway , all of them including their dogs will prefer to live in Norway and leave their land of the so called traditions and dirty habits.
          You provide justice, rule of law and good governance to the Afghans in their own land, they don't need to go to any country. But unfortunately the outsiders don't want that for them.

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          • #6
            The third thing was that the mother slapped the kid. I think that is the main reason the kids were taken away

            This is still harsh though, may be the mother should be given lessons on how to raise kids, but taking away kids is just plain stupid

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            • #7
              Originally posted by khushal View Post
              Ive heard of an albanian muslim family who was split up because of these laws in texas, US. The father was seen kissing his child who was about 3-4 years old. All their kids were taken away from them and given to a christian couple who raised them as christians.
              I also know of and afghan family whose son, when he was a teenager, went to the police and told them that his parents hit him. They did not arrest anyone because they did not have any proof of any abuse. The other kids were interviewed and they all said they are fine in the family and the parents are loving parents. The teenager after 2 years admitted he lied and the family took him back. I asked him why he lied and he said they would not let me do the things that I wanted.

              So luffy its not only that you can not use that kind of discipline for your kids but also your kids have power over you. I also know of this farsiwan afghan family whose wife is telling her husband that if she is not allowed to do what she wants she will divorce and take the kids and would not allow for him to see the kids. So he is held hostage.

              Many kids who go into a foster or adoptive home are sexually or physically abused. To adopt you must prove you have the financial means to take care of the kid and foster parents are given money by the governmnet to take care of the kids and they are passed around from foster home to foster home. The whole system is messed up.
              I am actually shocked. To some extent i was aware of it as they show their messed up family lives in hollywood films but i was not aware that you can be arrested for kissing your kids.....i mean you cant even love your children ! what kind of perverted people are they.
              And the kid was given to christian family, tobah. Chances are that kids in such cases may also be handed over to a gay couple...

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Khostai View Post
                This is really stupid, meybe there were more going one, than just this two things,
                I personaly think when the parents can not take care for there child and molesting them the chiled should be removed. but not on stupid silly things like this, and no in Belgium I have seen parents slaping children in public nobody called the police....
                If parents are poor then governament should support them financially instead of snatching their children. Other than that parents know how to take care of their flesh and blood.

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                • #9
                  i haven't heard of laws forbidding sleeping in the same bed with one's child but in canada it's said that if you don't let your children sleep in their own beds, they will end up being emotionally dependent on you.
                  i would rather my child be too dependent on me than being emotionally detached from me. i don't know how one raises a three year old to eat properly with a spoon. they should return the child because she/he comes from a culture where people are used to eating with hands.

                  I am no bird, and no nest ensnares me.

                  non commercial would cost less if he was in charge himself which he plans on doing. right now it's n herat but soon it will be in qanadahar.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by osho View Post
                    Norway is a beautiful ,developed and a social welfare state. Because of such laws they have reached to this position.

                    Pashtuns because of their such habits and likings are still living in stone age and if all Pashtuns are allowed to settle in Norway , all of them including their dogs will prefer to live in Norway and leave their land of the so called traditions and dirty habits.
                    umaizu ye pa du beauty bande. Da bani-adam di? Mor plaar meena dota molestation khkari. Za pa laas marrai khru ka pa kashak, hakomat cho kaar si?. Pashtun awo musalman sarray de wazhay na marr shi kho norway ghunde mlak che de zaan na zalilai.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by DaZahroJaam. View Post
                      i haven't heard of laws forbidding sleeping in the same bed with one's child but in canada it's said that if you don't let your children sleep in their own beds, they will end up being emotionally dependent on you.
                      i would rather my child be too dependent on me than being emotionally detached from me. i don't know how one raises a three year old to eat properly with a spoon. they should return the child because she/he comes from a culture where people are used to eating with hands.
                      Exactly.
                      Wallah tabahi da...mothers are not like mothers t, many mother there are more concerned about maintaing the shape of their breasts then breastfeeding her infant. They divorce around their husband and give gift of step-dads to their kids after intervals of few years...from what i have seen in hollywood films, fathers have become most pathetic creatures, a namard, treated like trash by wife and his children disrespect him and he himself cheats around. Many are not bothered about their baztards and single moms put burden on their parents for raising baztards without fathers. Grandpas and grandmas are waiting to die in old houses. No playing with grandchildrens or loving them, as they might be arrested for pedophilia.
                      Teenagers dont listen to you unless you threaten them expel them out of house. Teenage pregnancies and more baztards. A truely baztardized society.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Luffy View Post
                        I am actually shocked. To some extent i was aware of it as they show their messed up family lives in hollywood films but i was not aware that you can be arrested for kissing your kids.....i mean you cant even love your children ! what kind of perverted people are they.
                        And the kid was given to christian family, tobah. Chances are that kids in such cases may also be handed over to a gay couple...
                        Wheather the couple is gay or not, most of them are messed up considering pashtun and islamic standards. They encourage girls to dress in a sexually provacative way to attract men. The encourage girls to date many men(playing the field, they call it) before settling on one and even then they are told to look for something better while married so if they find something better, they divorce their spouse and move up the chain ladder. In these scenerios where the women divorces and looks for other boyfriends, their are many cases where the boyfriend of the mother molests the womans children, alcohol and drugs are present in front of the kids all the time. The woman and her boyfriend even have sex in the living room of the home while her child is present. They dont show that in the hollywood films. beleive me the reality is much stranger than the fiction you read in books and see on hollywood films.

                        People say that the tribal way of life is backwards, but thank god I was raised the tribal way. It is more in tune with nature.
                        Last edited by khushal; 05-21-2012, 04:57 PM.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Luffy View Post
                          Exactly.
                          Wallah tabahi da...mothers are not like mothers t, many mother there are more concerned about maintaing the shape of their breasts then breastfeeding her infant. They divorce around their husband and give gift of step-dads to their kids after intervals of few years...from what i have seen in hollywood films, fathers have become most pathetic creatures, a namard, treated like trash by wife and his children disrespect him and he himself cheats around. Many are not bothered about their baztards and single moms put burden on their parents for raising baztards without fathers. Grandpas and grandmas are waiting to die in old houses. No playing with grandchildrens or loving them, as they might be arrested for pedophilia.
                          Teenagers dont listen to you unless you threaten them expel them out of house. Teenage pregnancies and more baztards. A truely baztardized society.
                          This is true. here is statistics:
                          close to 70% of US children live in non traditional families:
                          http://www.rainbows.org/statistics.html

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by khushal View Post
                            This is true. here is statistics:
                            close to 70% of US children live in non traditional families:
                            http://www.rainbows.org/statistics.html
                            wow one third of americans are actually 'matungi' (baztards).

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by khushal View Post
                              Wheather the couple is gay or not, most of them are messed up considering pashtun and islamic standards. They encourage girls to dress in a sexually provacative way to attract men. The encourage girls to date many men(playing the field, they call it) before settling on one and even then they are told to look for something better while married so if they find something better, they divorce their spouse and move up the chain ladder. In these scenerios where the women divorces and looks for other boyfriends, their are many cases where the boyfriend of the mother molests the womans children, alcohol and drugs are present in front of the kids all the time. The woman and her boyfriend even have sex in the living room of the home while her child is present. They dont show that in the hollywood films. beleive me the reality is much stranger than the fiction you read in books and see on hollywood films.

                              People say that the tribal way of life is backwards, but thank god I was raised the tribal way. It is more in tune with nature.
                              I was watching this program "so you think you can dance season 7", nearly every dance was seductive and sexually provocative with themes of seducing the dance partner. The judges were saying to participants to be more aggressive in expressing their seduction and sensuality in dance. Even indian dances are decent enough. While these american dances were truely baztardized like them, they even dont know about art. I have never heard of any american poet. A truely harami nation lacking civilization.

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