Afghanistan: Native Dari peoples and how they view Pashtuns

[Manzareh]

1) What’s the actual common view that Uzbeks, Tajiks etc have of Pashtuns in Afghanistan

2) How does a country succeed and move forward without mixing with each other (mixing as in intermingling, marrying etc)

[Khostai]

^And you ask this question on Pashtun forum where almost no tajik or uzbeks are around
-_-. It would help if you ask this question on tajik forums or something.

[KGODB]

1) What’s the actual common view that Uzbeks, Tajiks etc have of Pashtuns in Afghanistan

2) How does a country succeed and move forward without mixing with each other (mixing as in intermingling, marrying etc)

1) Some of them have negative opinions of us for historical reasons. Some of them have positive opinions of us for historical reasons. Some of them look to us and judge us by negative stereotypes. Some of them look to us and judge us by positive stereotypes

2) Sulha wa Insaaf

[Manzareh]

^And you ask this question on Pashtun forum where almost no tajik or uzbeks are around
-_-. It would help if you ask this question on tajik forums or something.

Because there's alot of people from Afghanistan here, they would know, obviously.

[Manzareh]

^ I mean i cant really understand how a country can be called one when there is such a strong barrier between the people.

[Manzareh]

as time passed these cultures have merged with eachother thus no we have a multicultural society where pashtun culture is the most influencial.

So all this pashtun patriotism is to go down the drain, no? this mentality is beneficial for people in Afghanistan, were do the 30 million Pashtuns from east of the border fit in? merge with Tajiks,Uzbeks etc?.

This is the problem i see from many nationalistic Afghan-Pashtuns, they are angry at Pashtuns that have ties with Pakistan but at the same time offer no alternative apart from intermingling and watering down Pashtun values to suit the cause for Afghanistan.

[badmash_khel]

1) What’s the actual common view that Uzbeks, Tajiks etc have of Pashtuns in Afghanistan

Depends what kind of person he is.
If he is religious then he thinks of pashtuns as his brothers in religion and countrymen and admiration for their fights and resistance against kufars.They will have a bad view of liberal pashtuns like Asfandyar wali and Najibullah Ahmadzai.

If they are liberal then they would despise Taliban types and conservative pashtuns but get along with liberal pashtuns who think like them.

The common folk have nothing against each other and judge each other by personality and character and not ethnicities. They consider pashtuns their countrymen and get along just fine.

Some farsiwan don't consider pashtuns from Pakhtunkhwa as Pashtuns but refer to them as Pathan, basically non Afghan. Some consider pashtuns from pakhtunkhwa as fellow Afghans as long as they are loyal to Afghanistan.

Generally a farsiwan would expect to speak in farsi to a pashtun as farsi has been the language of empires and lingua franca from sub continent to middle east. Now a days the domination of farsi has gone down because of several factors and regional languages are being encouraged by Afghan Education ministry.

2) How does a country succeed and move forward without mixing with each other (mixing as in intermingling, marrying etc)

People do mix where there is contact for example in Kabul and the border areas where ethnicities are in close proximity such as laghman, Nuristan and so on. The same happens with pastuns in pakhtunkhwa some of whom have become hindkowals and some have become seraiki and punjabi speakers such the Niazis in Mianwali and so on. What ever culture and language is dominant in the area will be adopted by the mixed family with some exceptions.

Each ethnicity lives in their own dominant area except pashtuns who are found almost all over Afghansitan due to recent migration. As long as people work for the common good of all people in the country and respect each other, I don't see why they wouldn't move forward and advance.

[MostafaM]

How can someone answer a weird question?

What are "Dari people"?

It´s a dialect of Persian and spoken by parts of the Afghan population. But it doesn´t define one´s ethnicity. There are many Usbeks, Nuristanis, Pamiris and Pashtuns who have adopted Dari as their first language but don´t recognize themselves als Tajiks, Persians etc.

[abassinafghan]

most reffer more to farsisaban .

funny that we distinct between our languages.


it depends most people in watan , dont care , they dont see a big difference , there fore the way we living is tooo much the same , we dress the same , we eat the same , we have the same living conditions .

all are poor and screwed by the war .

the only racism i have ever seen was only by so called educated people and in the west .

you know ,after all this years you can actually talk alot of racism , but no one actually belives it , but in the war horrible things happend ,and people were forced to take sides ...

[Manzareh]

I like to put this into perspective, please take a look at the following thread on Tajik forums, this is only ONE of them..and note that hardly anybody is even against the onslaught of the pashtun people all you see is thumbs up, if we spoke like this here on Pashtunforums it would be viewed as a major crime and the person would be banned

http://tajikam.com/forums/index.php?..._1&#entry17853

They even take the piss out of pashtuns for celebrating nawruz in a real horrible manner i can find the thread if you wish.

[randolph85]

I like to put this into perspective, please take a look at the following thread on Tajik forums, this is only ONE of them..and note that hardly anybody is even against the onslaught of the pashtun people all you see is thumbs up, if we spoke like this here on Pashtunforums it would be viewed as a major crime and the person would be banned

http://tajikam.com/forums/index.php?..._1&#entry17853

They even take the piss out of pashtuns for celebrating nawruz in a real horrible manner i can find the thread if you wish.

at the height of that forum, there was only like 5 people who posted lol now its 95% russian spam for penis enlargement pills.

that parsi guy joined here about a year ago but got ran out of town.

[Friend]

WOOOOOOOOOOOW..... so much hate for Pashtoons ??? Never saw such before...

[Friend]

at the height of that forum, there was only like 5 people who posted lol now its 95% russian spam for penis enlargement pills.

that parsi guy joined here about a year ago but got ran out of town.

Looooooooooool.

[Manzareh]

at the height of that forum, there was only like 5 people who posted lol now its 95% russian spam for penis enlargement pills.

that parsi guy joined here about a year ago but got ran out of town.

LOL i was itching to join that forum just to put that e-warrior in his place, but your right because i checked the dates and realized most of the people have died due to those very same pills, atleast we know they need some help in the 'mens departmnt'