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It proves not all Punjabis have hatred to the Pashtun. Don't know why some of us are consumed by racism for them then.Originally posted by RevolutionThroughReason View Postwhat? Punjabis cream in their pants whenever anything about Pashtuns and Afghans is mentioned; they even boast about having an Afghan grandfather "my baba was from Gardez". Albeit you're right they do tend to creep on Pashtun girls big time, it's some sort of status symbolic redemption for many of them; they see the Pashtuns as superior than themselves and harbor a certain internal resentment about that; so the prospects of scoring a Pashtun woman makes them feel redeemed.
Its the Pashtuns reputation as tough-ass people. In Pakistan there is an impression that all Pashtuns are the great sword of Pakistan-the upholders of the Pakistani union... each single Pashtun a patriot who would die for his country. That impression is wrong.I am the author of Badal, an upcoming fiction novel on the War on Terror. For more information about me visit [URL="http://www.havisultan.com"]www.havisultan.com[/URL]
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It is mainly the Yusafzais from Swat and Peshawar/Mardan/Charsadda, etc. that are the most patriotic "Pakistani" Pashtuns. Ironically, they are also among the the least armed and practically non-violent tribes.Originally posted by haviZsultan View PostIt proves not all Punjabis have hatred to the Pashtun. Don't know why some of us are consumed by racism for them then.
Its the Pashtuns reputation as tough-ass people. In Pakistan there is an impression that all Pashtuns are the great sword of Pakistan-the upholders of the Pakistani union... each single Pashtun a patriot who would die for his country. That impression is wrong.
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You totally misunderstood my post then; they do have a great deal of animosity towards Pashtuns but it isnt because they look down at Pashtuns; but envy Pashtuns due the legacy of Pashtun history and having been historically subjugated by pashtuns; Punjabi males feel emasculated and reduced to effeminacy by Pashtuns.[QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]
2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.
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Originally posted by Kurmewal View PostOnly becuase Pashtuns tend to be lighter skinned than Punjabis.
More than Just that ......history the fact that they were subjugated by Pashtun rulers; many things factor into their psyche. This whole modern menality and perception of Pashtuns as being "sweepers' and toilet cleaners as Manzareh put it is the Punjabi society's attempt at gloating over how the "Once mighty Pashtun" has fallen for grace; they're joyed as it makes them feel redeemed for their historical submissiveness[QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]
2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.
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Pashtuns may be portrayed as illiterate, backward, brutish barbarians but they are never considered "sweepers". That position is reserved for Punjabi Christians in Pakistani society.Originally posted by RevolutionThroughReason View PostMore than Just that ......history the fact that they were subjugated by Pashtun rulers; many things factor into their psyche. This whole modern menality and perception of Pashtuns as being "sweepers' and toilet cleaners as Manzareh put it is the Punjabi society's attempt at gloating over how the "Once mighty Pashtun" has fallen for grace; they're joyed as it makes them feel redeemed for their historical submissiveness
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Originally posted by Kurmewal View Post"Pathans" are strong because they eat more meat as oppoesed to the rest of the dalkhors.
Pakistani Punjabis eat tons of meat; so I doubt that is the case. They're farmer people where as Pashtuns are mountain people and nomads; so they're heartier, tougher.[QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]
2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.
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They eat only chicken and very little "mutton", but almost no beef at all.Originally posted by RevolutionThroughReason View PostPakistani Punjabis eat tons of meat; so I doubt that is the case. They're farmer people where as Pashtuns are mountain people and nomads; so they're heartier, tougher.
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Actually Pashtuns, except in urban areas, don't eat much meat, because they have to depend on animals for work and such.Originally posted by Kurmewal View PostThey eat only chicken and very little "mutton", but almost no beef at all.
Punjabis eat all that Mughlai food; which is all meat, they eat tons of Goat (Kachar).[QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]
2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.
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"Punjabis" in Islamabad/Rawalpindi eat mostly chicken and all famous meat dishes, including lasagna, have a chicken variant that is much more popular."Mutton" means goat in Pakistan. Sheep/lamb are only eaten by "tribal" Pashtuns and Baluch.Originally posted by RevolutionThroughReason View PostActually Pashtuns, except in urban areas, don't eat much meat, because they have to depend on animals for work and such.
Punjabis eat all that Mughlai food; which is all meat, they eat tons of Goat (Kachar).
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Frankly most Punjabis do not really care about all that and this is not their thinking. At least the more religious Punjabis I've met think of Pashtuns as the sword of Islam gloating over how Pashtuns can never be subjugated. lol.Originally posted by RevolutionThroughReason View PostMore than Just that ......history the fact that they were subjugated by Pashtun rulers; many things factor into their psyche. This whole modern menality and perception of Pashtuns as being "sweepers' and toilet cleaners as Manzareh put it is the Punjabi society's attempt at gloating over how the "Once mighty Pashtun" has fallen for grace; they're joyed as it makes them feel redeemed for their historical submissiveness
But everyone has his views. You're welcome to express yours.I am the author of Badal, an upcoming fiction novel on the War on Terror. For more information about me visit [URL="http://www.havisultan.com"]www.havisultan.com[/URL]
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Eh how bout Afridi's. Afridis can get really angry if you say anything about Pakistan. I heard about an Afridi slapping an Indian in dubai for a percieved insult to Pakistan.Originally posted by Kurmewal View PostIt is mainly the Yusafzais from Swat and Peshawar/Mardan/Charsadda, etc. that are the most patriotic "Pakistani" Pashtuns. Ironically, they are also among the the least armed and practically non-violent tribes.I am the author of Badal, an upcoming fiction novel on the War on Terror. For more information about me visit [URL="http://www.havisultan.com"]www.havisultan.com[/URL]
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The Afridis of Kohat and Darra can be patriotic Pakistanis at times, but this sentiment is quite weak amongst the Khyber ones.Originally posted by haviZsultan View PostEh how bout Afridi's. Afridis can get really angry if you say anything about Pakistan. I heard about an Afridi slapping an Indian in dubai for a percieved insult to Pakistan.
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Khattaks and Yousafzais were amongst the most subdued by the British.Afridis are generally of mixed opinion, like many Khattaks in recent times.Yousafzais of Peshawar valley in particular, however, are the most watered-down ("brainwashed"/"brown-washed"Originally posted by AdamAfridis and Khattaks my friend, not Yousafzai
Pashtuns.Excluding you, nearly everyone in Swat loves Pakistan. Having never been to your ancestral land, you are not very educted about these matters.
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