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    This has been discussed with Tor Khan lala, he doesn’t necessarily endorse my views but has agreed that in an open platform, room for discussion should be safeguarded. (I don't know how to put in different colour, if I could I would)


    Originally posted by shadowgoverner
    The only sellouts were on the side of british fighting against Afghanistan and pukhtunkhwa.
    these are the like so of people in the paki army now fighting Against pukhtunkhwa and also supporting war on Afghanistan.
    Durran line agreement is non binding,only desperate pakis want to give it legitimacy.Pashtuns are already giving hell to paki invaders on their land so why should everything be about Afghanistan.
    They are already freeing themselves matter of fact they cross the border to help Afghans with their independence as well.

    you know the meaning of the jihad flag vs british raj yet you back up the ones who were on the side of the british raj fighting the peopel holding this flag.Do you know how many pashtuns were among those fighting against waziristan?
    FC and pashtuns in paki army are nothing different than those who fought against waziristan and even Afghanistan.
    Pakistan is the biggest enemy of Islam in the region and one can stay,Islam or pakistan.

    This is more than just about Pashtuns but about muslims.
    Apologies for the late reply wrora, I’ve been really busy with family and university. Alhumdulillah thats fantastic, I am very glad to hear the Pakistan army and co are taking a battering, I very well know of the base that Pakistan was created on, if it was up to me, Pakistan, Bangladesh and India would never have been broken apart in the first place.

    Wrora I never stated I’m on the side of the British Raj, I get angry at the thought of British Raj, how they destabilized the muslim ummah there and made copies of themselves in people like damalakandghar, soldat amir and the other amir etc. I agree with all your points, my argument was simply that you do not waste time fighting random pakhtuns for what they believe in, you cannot change the entire worlds mind, even our prophet sallalahu alayhi wasallam could not make everyone muslim. So what makes you think you will change the mindset of a few people by calling them pakis n whatnot. Your hearts in the right place mashallah..just direct it to a more constructive side of things.

    Originally posted by DaMalakandGhar View Post
    You yourself are a Punjabi from Rawalpindi seeking foreign roots in order to escape self-presumed shame associated with untouchable descent under the Hindu/Indic caste system that you and the likes of you still retain despite conversion to Islam centuries ago. I know this sense of shame gets more pronounced in Desis abroad.

    So how come you try educate us on who was Faqir of Ipi and what was his movement about. Go explore your own roots and try to be proud of whatever your descent instead of coming here disguised as a Pukhtun and commenting on Pukhtun personalities
    Hey I wonder why nearly everyone on this forum calls you “damalakandkhar” is it because you alienate them?

    There is no doubt that I am a PUNJABI and what?!? My greats were Afghan and paternally from both sides my family are from pakhtun, simply 2 generations back WE WERE AFGHAN......this is my heritage....

    We all excrete, urinate, eat, sleep, fart, have smelly breath and defects. Get over yourself you arrogant fool, you make out as if pakhtuns smell of roses and the highest of high people and South Asians are the lowest of the low. WE’RE ALL HUMAN SON...

    What is up with the constant attacks on islam, you go through a tough moment in your life and you abandon islam and belief in Allah, then decide to attack it, just because the rest of the kufaar are? Thats not very pakhtun of you, islam is about patience and strength in imaan, belief in Allah. My great grandfather(pakhtun) watched his father(my great great grandfather) die of starvation and illness at a young age of 44, he didn’t gun islam and blame it for every ill in this world! He worked his backside off and became one of the richest people in our region of Gujarkhan and had a peaceful death. There is a reason why this life is classified as a test.

    To Everyone
    My main point I was trying to put across was that the majority of you are wasting so much time arguing and bickering over what? You poonji, paki, pakjabi, indic, porki, brownie etc etc did this to us, you did that to us. Thats all that functions in your heads. As for the Pakistan side brothers, your similar, you put the Afghan side pakhtuns down calling them backwards. What an earth is this my brothers?

    Can you imagine the time you put into this, doing something constructive instead, working towards our long term goals of achieving a powerful and independent Afghanistan and muslim nation. No, instead we get the likes of fake ghaznavis talking about drugs and praising western culture, guys thinking they are jews(soldat amir) and then going onto imagining they are a “Russian soldier”...get out of your nappy son. Then we get some bald idiots who want to burn the quran just to get some attention from everyone.(Scimitar) Claiming everything is a “fallacy”. Oh yeah we get kuffaar Afghans who hate islam full stop, just because they don’t comply with the rulings of islam but use the Taliban as an excuse for them leaving islam(leavaney etc etc). Life isn’t all about eating pork, doing drugs, drinking and “living it large” you know. Also some people are here just for the sake of fighting, some use islam, some don’t. This is all a trap my brothers and sisters. Then we also let random australian grannys try and dictate what we should do and not do, how far gone are our senses and morals?

    There are also people making their own interpretation on islam as if they were sheikhs and telling others to do also, as a result losing faith because they don’t understand, that is why we have sheikhs and scholars, those who have studied and dedicated their entire lives towards islam and Allah. A lot of these extremists, like Sayful Islam of Luton, the likes of Abu Qatadah, Abu Hamza and so on are created because of their own interpretations, they are a law unto themselves. Some of you may argue that scholars are corrupt and deviate people further, of course, nobody said this life was going to be a perfect and easy ride, Allah has told us to seek and strive for knowledge, that is true knowledge.

    This forum was created on good intentions, for it to become an online home for pakhtuns and more importantly as muslims, so we could be constructive, united and speak in a civilized fashion. Why is it that many decent people have left and request that their accounts be deleted? The way some of you attack islam as if it was the very cause of evil. Its disgusting,

    Why is it that its been prophesized that the muslims will be many but it wouldn’t mean anything, think about this.....We muslims have none other to blame except OURSELVES, the sooner you realise this the better and act upon it. Every muslim country is in the slums because of lack of imaan, almost no practise of islam and extreme corruption. Those of you that state Pakistan are living it large and saving their backsides at the cost of our pakhtun blood, are they really? Allah works in mysterious ways, if one part of the ummah suffers we should all feel the pain. You will see sooner or later the tables will turn, the US will turn on Pakistan as they have done to their other puppets and then the ones responsible will suffer and cry in regret. My dear brothers and sisters please unite, learn about islam, follow the quran and sunnah.

    To those of you that messaged me via text, PMs and emails I’m sorry I could not reply to you. I reply to your salaam here...Walaikum asalaam

    Because of all this trouble and time wasting, I’m out and I recommend you to leave too, this forum is a joke.. Become successful, get an education, use this system to your advantage..we have so much potential, this is the dunya... Patience in islam is vital and more importantly trust in Allah...Make sure you remember Allah at all times, think about the akhirah and the ummah.


    All the best
    Khudai Pamaan
    Last edited by Pakhtunzai; 05-05-2012, 10:23 AM.
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