do you (afghan) celebrate the nawroz( نورز ) day?

[badmash_khel]

We do celebrate newai kaal (nouruz) but we don't celebrate it like persians or kurds. We don't celebrate Charshanbe Suri (wednesday before new year) where people jump over fire.

The pashtuns celebrate it in Afghanistan because its the start of spring and new year officially. We don't celebrate it because its a pagan celebration which is not even true since new year has been celebrate at the start of spring for thousands of years.

The reason pashtuns in Afghanistan tend to celebrate is because they live in Afghanistan where its the start of spring and new year. Pashtuns in Pakistan might not celebrate because they live in Pakistan where the Georgian christian calendar is followed. Pakistanis celebrate new year like the Christian world. The Afghan calendar is Islamic Hijri Shamsi calendar.

@khyberkhan, mistake number 1, its not just persians new year. Celebration of new year at the start of spring pre dates the arrival of persians on Iranian plateu. Most Indo-Europeans and even semites celebrated this day. Persians are just one ethnicity in Iran, there are Azeris, kurds, Gilaki, and many more who are not persian who celebrate it. In Afghanistan non persians pamiris and pashis also celebrate it. In your quest to appear hardcore pashtun and muslim you are neglecting the common link between Indo Iranian nations. I guess Bani Isreal theory has really worked on some people

[IamDZJ]

I don't know about others but in my family we don't adopt to or abandon traditions based on their popularity in society. You can take your poll and show it a good time over a nice coffee.

[badmash_khel]

What is this for a tradition? Something persian?

Not just persian, but kurds, and other indo iranians (pashtuns, tajiks, Azeris, etc) also celebrate it. Its the official start of new year in Iran, Afghanistan and Tajikistan and the beginning of spring after harsh cold winter. New year has been celebrated at the start of spring for thousands of years by Indo Europeans from Central Asia to Anatoliya. The United Nations made a mistake when they named it the "Persian" New Year. Persian lobby is very strong in United States and maybe this were behind it.

[badmash_khel]

not all afghans did celebrate it!! i would make a poll to see how many of the afghans of this forum celebrate it and how many didnt celebrate it.lol

ps: isnt haram?

lets vote over here :D lol
http://www.pashtunforums.com/showthread.php?t=27435

Thats what happens to you when you live in Saudi Arabia for too long

Ofcourse many don't celebrate it because they live in other countries where they celebrate chritian new year and some the islamic new year. You have to be in Afghanistan to see if people celebrate it or not. In Ningarhar, they have the Narenj Gul mela where people gather and recite poetry and celebrate the coming of spring. Unfortunately with the rise of Taliban and other cancers, people are losing the cultural hertiage.

[badmash_khel]

I knew that Kurds celebrated something close to spring with flowers and jumping close to fires (I may be mistake) but we Arabs never celebrate this.

The jumping over fire is done wednesday before the New year called Charshamb e suri not on the new year day. Pashtuns don't usually perform this jumping over fire except maybe some in herat who live close to Tajiks.

So it is ancient traditions? When I think about this I think something similar was celebrated when we Arabs/Semetic people were pagans although I am not 100 percent sure.

We know that the Sumerian and Babylonian calendars of the Mesopotamia were based on the changing of the seasons. The sedentary agriculture of Mesopotamia that served as the backbone of Babylonian economy greatly depended on the changing of the seasons and the amount of yearly downpour. Subsequently, the beginning of the spring mattered greatly in Mesopotamia and was celebrated accordingly. There also existed an annual ritual in Babylonia when at the beginning of the spring the king was required to make a journey to the temple of Marduk and receive the regal signs from the god and give royal protection to the great god of Babylon. The yearly renewal of this mutual support seems to symbolize the renewal of life marked by the beginning of the spring. We have decisive records of the adoption of this ritual by the Iranians when Cyrus the Great invaded Babylon and appointed his son, Cambyses, as his deputy there.
On the other hand, the life style of Iranian tribes prior to their settlement in Iran was nomadic and greatly depended on cattle raising instead of sedentary agriculture, thus devoid of the need to keep exact track of seasonal change. Their homeland, in the central Asian steppes, possessed either very cold winters or scorching summers and the arrival of spring seldom had the same effect as it does on the more temperate lands to the south.
As a result, it is possible to conclude that the original roots of Nowruz laid in the Mesopotamian celebration of the arrival of spring and was later adopted by settled Iranian tribes, probably as early as the reign of the first Achaemenid emperor. It should be pointed out that if we accept this theory of adoption, we should not forget the certain Iranian characteristics that shaped this celebration into a distinctly Iranian custom.

http://www.iranologie.com/history/nowruz-hist.html


According to some theories, Nouruz comes from Mesopotamia (Iraq) and then adopted by Iranic people. So yeah its possible your ancestors did celebrate this day before Islam.

[Old School Killiwal]

no but it makes more sense than having new year in january.

[Al Hanif]

Unfortunately with the rise of Taliban and other cancers, people are losing the cultural hertiage.

Thats what happens to you when you live in the west for too long

[Manzareh]

no, im not a persian.

I was thinking the same, its not a pashtun thing as far as i know, funny thing is alot of the people that celebrate nowroz are the same ones that complain about pakistan pashtuns being infiltrated by foreign cultures when the same thing is happening to them and theyr just as proud.

[torkham]

nauroz/nawekal celebrates beginning of new year based on seasons, spring being the beginning, whether you are a farmer, a bird or a bee. a little like harvest celebrations, nothing unislamic just natural as season. Just because zoroastrians used it is neither here nor there.
solar hijri (in afghanistan) the years are pegged to Hijrat, unlike in pakistan and rest of the west, to a christian birthday.
so, yes, nawroz is celebrated but Akhtar rules supreme.

[IamDZJ]

Sometimes I wish someone would build a huge wall around the Durand line, cover it in barbed wires and rat poison and then gather all those idiots who think they have the right to claim having afghan blood in their veins while refusing our customs and considering the rest of us below them and then burry them alive inside that wall the way Akbar azam buried anarkali and then leave them there to rot. Heck, dump a few rats in there too.

[Khostai]

I was thinking the same, its not a pashtun thing as far as i know, funny thing is alot of the people that celebrate nowroz are the same ones that complain about pakistan pashtuns being infiltrated by foreign cultures when the same thing is happening to them and theyr just as proud.

I don't know if you are form Pakistan but this new year is as long as everyone can remember you just have forgoten it, becuase of the Pakis.

[Niazi]

not all afghans did celebrate it!! i would make a poll to see how many of the afghans of this forum celebrate it and how many didnt celebrate it.lol

ps: isnt haram?

lets vote over here :D lol
http://www.pashtunforums.com/showthread.php?t=27435

Who told you Pashtun don't Celebret Nawroz ,it's seems you know nothing about us.

Who told you it's haram???

[Old School Killiwal]

not all afghans did celebrate it!! i would make a poll to see how many of the afghans of this forum celebrate it and how many didnt celebrate it.lol

ps: isnt haram?

lets vote over here :D lol
http://www.pashtunforums.com/showthread.php?t=27435

we dont celebrate it in paktika.

[Niazi]

not all afghans did celebrate it!! i would make a poll to see how many of the afghans of this forum celebrate it and how many didnt celebrate it.lol

ps: isnt haram?

lets vote over here :D lol
http://www.pashtunforums.com/showthread.php?t=27435

we dont celebrate it in paktika.

U r wrong they do?

[Old School Killiwal]

U r wrong they do?

i am wrong? what the **** do you know about paktika?