do you (afghan) celebrate the nawroz( نورز ) day?

[Gulalai]

i am not angry, i am disgusted by you. why are you so giggly?? excuse yourself from whoever it is that is tickling you nonstop for the while that you communicate with me. don't worry, i don't expect you to have the choice of making that decision.

loooooooool bahahahaha does my e-laughing bother you? awwww i'm sorry LOL (:

[RevolutionThroughReason]

Pashtun, Tajik, Botswanian , not really concerned, but for people to say something disingenuous like that Pashtuns didn't celebrate Nawekal are grossly misinfomed. The proof of the Pashtun practice of Nawekal are by the original Pashtuns themselves....The Kuchis, the Kuchi migratory patterns occur precisely in response to transitions between the Spring and Autumnal Equinoxes. In fact it has very little to do with Persian origins but rather the traditional heritage of Central Asian peoples INCLUDING Turks.

It isn't ironic that Kuchis living on the Pakistani side of the border, commemorate Nawekal.

[IamDZJ]

loooooooooooooool i dont get why youre so sour all the time?? no but i never stopped you from asking, and if you asked i would have an answer for you instead of giving you an answer that doesnt match the question, and then answering with a question. thats your opinion, great, i dont care. you still havent answered my question but i really dont care to ask you again but it is funny (:

i am not angry, i am disgusted by you. why are you so giggly?? excuse yourself from whoever it is that is tickling you nonstop for the while that you communicate with me and try fitting things in your posts that would require for one to think more than 3 seconds. i can't be bothered to reply to posts that seem to have been typed by a 3 year old. otherwise it sounds like i am talking to a bimbo.

don't worry, i don't expect you to have the choice of making that decision.

[Gulalai]

dzj, i replied to your post the first time you posted it. as for what you added, i dont want to have a discussion with you. you dont even make it possible for anyone to have a proper discussion with you because you're always fighting. why dont you try to post without insulting someone or coming off angry for once?

stop flooding this thread. now because of your trolling no one will see my question -_-

[MostafaM]

maybe you guys are right, maybe a long time ago pashtuns did celebrate the start of spring/new year what ever (maybe youre wrong idk)... but that doesnt explain the fact that the only pashtuns i've heard of celebrating it are pashtuns on the afghan side of the durand line. If it was so integrated into pashtun culture then pashtuns on the pakistan side of the durand line would also celebrate it no?

Pashtuns on the "Pakistani side" of the Durand Line are subject to a state policy that has uprooted them, specially in the bigger centres like Peshawar.

Just listen for example how our beloved Shahid Afridi talks Pashto: a mix of English/Urdu/Pashto that turns your stomach upside down.

The idea of a superior British culture has infested Indian and Pakistani sociaty that much that young people talk in English with each other just to appear cool and upt-o-date enough.

The other thing is that FATA with it´s rugged terrain and harsh climate has never been a good place for peasantry. The Arghandab Areas of Kandahar with it´s fruit gardens, the Jalalabad area with its various cultivation areas for vegetables and food, Paktia and Khost with a small amout of soil for rice cultivation....the northern territories where Pashtun tribes had settled and made the areas green by cultivating sugar melons etc......I don´t much about KPK because I don´t have family there and have never been there, but even in parts of Khurram people celebrate the upcoming spring.

The last 30 years of war and bloodshed have not only devasted people and their lifes, it made people lose what was common traditions etc.

[Karpo]

Nawroz is a Zorastrian pagan holiday that is not vividly celebrated by the majority of Pashtuns in Afghanistan, esp in the rural Pashtun lands. Nawroz is typically celebrated by most (but not all) Tajiks, Uzbeks, and Hazaras. Those aforementioned who live in mostly Pashtun majority areas do not celebrate it as vividly as the farsiwaan. It is slowly becoming less and less of an event in Pashtun land. Bottom line is it has been previously observed in Pashtun land, but as people are becoming aware of its pagan roots, you will not find such an avid celebration of it in Paktia, Kunar, and now even Kandahar whereas you will most certainly find a joyous celebration of it in the farsiwaan majority Northern areas

[MostafaM]

dzj, i replied to your post the first time you posted it. as for what you added, i dont want to have a discussion with you. you dont even make it possible for anyone to have a proper discussion with you because you're always fighting. why dont you try to post without insulting someone or coming off angry for once?

stop flooding this thread. now because of your trolling no one will see my question -_-

I saw your question and answered.

[Old School Killiwal]

so how do you celebrate it?

[MostafaM]

Nawroz is a Zorastrian pagan holiday that is not vividly celebrated by the majority of Pashtuns in Afghanistan, esp in the rural Pashtun lands. Nawroz is typically celebrated by most (but not all) Tajiks, Uzbeks, and Hazaras. Those aforementioned who live in mostly Pashtun majority areas do not celebrate it as vividly as the farsiwaan. It is slowly becoming less and less of an event in Pashtun land. Bottom line is it has been previously observed in Pashtun land, but as people are becoming aware of its pagan roots, you will not find such an avid celebration of it in Paktia, Kunar, and now even Kandahar whereas you will most certainly find a joyous celebration of it in the farsiwaan majority Northern areas

As long as Pashtuns remain peasants, Newey Kaal will remain a great part of their culture.

And please stop speaking for the people of Paktia, Paktika, Khost and FATA.
The celebrations of Newey Kaal by peasants with their plows on their shoulders of those areas is well known to all who originate from there.

[Gulalai]

Pashtuns on the "Pakistani side" of the Durand Line are subject to a state policy that has uprooted them, specially in the bigger centres like Peshawar.

Just listen for example how our beloved Shahid Afridi talks Pashto: a mix of English/Urdu/Pashto that turns your stomach upside down.

The idea of a superior British culture has infested Indian and Pakistani sociaty that much that young people talk in English with each other just to appear cool and upt-o-date enough.

The other thing is that FATA with it´s rugged terrain and harsh climate has never been a good place for peasantry. The Arghandab Areas of Kandahar with it´s fruit gardens, the Jalalabad area with its various cultivation areas for vegetables and food, Paktia and Khost with a small amout of soil for rice cultivation....the northern territories where Pashtun tribes had settled and made the areas green by cultivating sugar melons etc......I don´t much about KPK because I don´t have family there and have never been there, but even in parts of Khurram people celebrate the upcoming spring.

The last 30 years of war and bloodshed have not only devasted people and their lifes, it made people lose what was common traditions etc.

lol that may be true for some but definitely not all. As for you second reasoning, that may be true too but that wouldnt cause something so drastic to have some celebrate the first day of spring and others not to. You say some people in Khurram celebrate it but thats the thing with me, i've never seen pashtuns actually celebrate nowroz until i came to PF. Then even on PF the only pashtuns who say they celebrate it are pashtuns from the Afghan side.

[MostafaM]

so how do you celebrate it?

Me?

I call family, whish them a good new year and stuff.

My family does make Haft Mewa. These 7 fruits represent homegrown fruits that were harvested last year, dried and and a sweet soup is made out of them.
It´s a symbolic act of wetting dried fruits of the last so the harvest in the new year will be as good as the one last year; it stands for the dry winter to go and the molten water to bring life into the world; thats how my uncle explained me what the Newey Kaal celebrations mean. reading Quran and praying for a good harvest is also an important part. That´s what peasants do because the very survival of their families depend on it.

Back in the days, my grandfather would go by the start of spring to Paktia (there was no Khost back then) and talk to the peasants who worked on his land, see if everything was ok etc.

[MostafaM]

lol that may be true for some but definitely not all. As for you second reasoning, that may be true too but that wouldnt cause something so drastic to have some celebrate the first day of spring and others not to. You say some people in Khurram celebrate it but thats the thing with me, i've never seen pashtuns actually celebrate nowroz until i came to PF. Then even on PF the only pashtuns who say they celebrate it are pashtuns from the Afghan side.

Let´s clarify it: where are you from?

[RevolutionThroughReason]

Nawroz is a Zorastrian pagan holiday that is not vividly celebrated by the majority of Pashtuns in Afghanistan, esp in the rural Pashtun lands. Nawroz is typically celebrated by most (but not all) Tajiks, Uzbeks, and Hazaras. Those aforementioned who live in mostly Pashtun majority areas do not celebrate it as vividly as the farsiwaan. It is slowly becoming less and less of an event in Pashtun land. Bottom line is it has been previously observed in Pashtun land, but as people are becoming aware of its pagan roots, you will not find such an avid celebration of it in Paktia, Kunar, and now even Kandahar whereas you will most certainly find a joyous celebration of it in the farsiwaan majority Northern areas

Actually that exactly where it is celebrated most IN the rural lands . The Kuchi commemorate Nawroz (Nawekal) by preparing a festival to travel to their spring pastures.


Here is a Nawekal celebration in Qandahar

http://ariananews.af/regional/nowruz-celebrations-held-around-afghanistan/

Tuesday (20th March 2012) was marked as the 1st day of new Solar year in each and every corner of Afghanistan. Thousands gathered in specified locations and attended the Janda Bala (flag-hoisting) ceremonies.
According to the reports from Zabul province, during the Janda Bala ceremony the Zabul Governor Muhammad Ashraf Nasiri addressed the participants and wished a successful and prosperous year for the people of Afghanistan.
He said the Zabul Municipality and Agriculture Department are currently busy planting saplings. In the meantime he urged the citizens to take part in planting trees and cooperate with the government in expanding the educational and developmental sectors.

Similarly in Kandahar, the Nowruz celebrations began with hoisting of Shah-Maqsood-Tomb’s flag. Meanwhile the Ghazni province also celebrated the Nowruz celebrations with raising the flag of the Shah Awlia Shrine. Thousands of people participated in these ceremonies and prayed for a peaceful and stable year in Afghanistan during 1391.

As the flag-hoisting ceremonies ended, people, especially youth and children began enjoying the New Year by visiting parks, roads and special fairs.
The New Year celebrations were held amid tight security arrangements. The security officials have ensured the entire nation will all of the New Year fairs without any fears or worries.

Unfortunately, the residents of Kundoz, Takhar and Khost provinces were not able to celebrate Nowruz because of the snow and unusually cold climatic conditions.

[Gulalai]

Let´s clarify it: where are you from?

nangarhar lol

[MostafaM]

nangarhar lol

Then I really don´t understand you.

People drove to Nangarhar for it´s mild weather during spring and Newey Kaal celebrations there were legendary as far as I know.

Nangarhar is known as one of the major centres for cultivation of fruits and vegetables, it´s gardens etc.



Something must be wrong with you. haha