Random Thoughts part 2 :D

[Hakim Khan Urgonai]

oh, and do they have them in compounds, minding their own business?

No, but most of us are in ghettos doing our ting.

[sahil112]

No, but most of us are in ghettos doing our ting.

in ghettos doing our thing? LOL how old are you?

[Hakim Khan Urgonai]

its a very wide mix man, like just recently the borough of uxbridge got a new mayor i think of bangali ethnicity but 2 be honest majority of london is very gang related when it comes to youths and teenagers and many gangs keep to thier own kind.

with the adults and once you mature up its a very mixed place and all of that drops and you learn to respect and live with each other.

Bengalis are strengthening.

Most ethnicities got beef with Afghans in the South.

[Hakim Khan Urgonai]

in ghettos doing our thing? LOL how old are you?

What you chatting bout?

You just said what man just said.

[sahil112]

What you chatting bout?

You just said what man just said.

clearly your also blind can you not see the question mark at the end lol

[Friend]

what is the political and social influence of muslims in london and britain in general? from videos, i have seen entire neighborhoods that are muslim dominated and run, not to mention the vocal anti uk sentiment of many of these people. i am thinking that either these communities are backed by some muscle or that the uk just caters to muslims there?

True actually there is huge money of Muslims involved in the big cities of Europe like London and Paris. That is why they favor them.
I was reading an article of Saleem safi in which said that he interviewed some UK official and the officer told him that a huge amount is coming from Pakistan for the last two three years that is why we support them and not making troubles for them. Imagine these countries are running from our money. inside story

[Friend]

Are most Muslims in Paris not form West Africa and Berbers from Morocco, Algeria and Tunisia?

I only heard about small numbers of Iraqis, Saudis and Gulf Arabs and those are mostly very rich people.

True most of the Arabs are from other countries but I was talking about the Schanzalize street and central Paris where an ordinary person can't even shop. But the elites of Kuwait, Saudi Arabia and Arab Emarates are doing business there. These guys shop there in such an expensive place.

[Haris]

what is the political and social influence of muslims in london and britain in general? from videos, i have seen entire neighborhoods that are muslim dominated and run, not to mention the vocal anti uk sentiment of many of these people. i am thinking that either these communities are backed by some muscle or that the uk just caters to muslims there?

In London, people in general relate Muslim culture with Pakistani culture.

For example, I got a leaflet in the post about my local Teco's Ramadan offers and it was all chapatis and Indian samosas and Basmati rice and onion bhajjis and Rubicon mango juice etc (all associated with Pakistani/South Asian culture) that were being discounted. I was like 'eh..'

Many of the young Muslims in London and I guess the UK have a chance of becoming vey extremist, more so than anywhere else in the west I think. That isn't helped with the English Defence League who help to provoke young Muslims into extremising themselves and the likes of Anjem Choudry who flame the sentiments. It should be noted though that this is less profound in London since the EDL and the extremists have far less influence than in other areas of the country, particularly in the north.

I don't think London is like Luton or Bradford where the Muslim communities are self-segregated and most of the women you see are burka-clad. London is very multicultural so you may see people in burkas or hijabs or nothing on their heads. The Muslim communities are seperated within themselves though (i.e. Afghan mosques for mainly Afghans etc). My old local mosque in Sothall would always do the khutbah in Urdu which I found really really annoying because I didn't understand a word. In Southall, the Muslims live with other peoples and religions (Sikhs, Hindus, Christians) so they are more intergrated than say Bradford. Hence you see more diversity. It's the same case with the rest of London.

[Hakim Khan Urgonai]

clearly your also blind can you not see the question mark at the end lol

You have never liked me.

We both know the type of places we are from and the stuff that happens there.

Why did you disagree?

[sahil112]

You have never liked me.

We both know the type of places we are from and the stuff that happens there.

Why did you disagree?

yes i do, ino what wev been thru, the fights the police cases the courts etc all of that but there comes a time where you need to stop and and set a better example and start to act mature or all the other little afghans at school gona think its cool to do this and dat and every generation keeps doing it and its like a loop, open your mind and get out that loop

[Hakim Khan Urgonai]

yes i do, ino what wev been thru, the fights the police cases the courts etc all of that but there comes a time where you need to stop and and set a better example and start to act mature or all the other little afghans at school gona think its cool to do this and dat and every generation keeps doing it and its like a loop, open your mind and get out that loop

You are all grown up now masha`Allah.

This gang **** generally disappears when one turns 20 or above but some kids stay in it and ruin their lives.

[sahil112]

You are all grown up now masha`Allah.

This gang **** generally disappears when one turns 20 or above but some kids stay in it and ruin their lives.

20 LOLL i saw an afghan friend i new who was 4 years older than me and im like how r u wer u of to and he goes police station and i was like same old some people just never seem to learn and ruin thier lives and parents lives

[Haris]

Informative post, brother.

Apart from Edgeware Road is there any area where Arabs are visible? Or are they even the majority/visible in Edgeware Road? I imagine that most Muslims by far are from Pakistan, Bangladesh and India in London which is a pretty different culture to our own from what I know and have experienced. And is there any particular Arab group that is dominant? I know that Iraqis and Saudis are numerous which is great but what about other groups? I heard Yemenis as well and they usually have a great understanding with Iraqis and that's what I hear from Arabs living in London. And then I imagine Egyptians having a fairly big presence. Moroccans, Algerians and Tunisians are mostly Berbers (those who emigrate) and they tend to be in France from what I see. And then there is not much left of the Arab world apart from Northern Sudan (which I imagine also are present in London to an extent when being a former colony) and Qatar, Bahrain, UAE, Oman, Jordan and Palestine which all have small populations. Syrians and Lebanese are more found in France.

Am I correct?

I cannot speak for all of London since as Hakim said, it is a big city and I spent most of my life in West London - rarely travel East, North or South.

I think most Arabs live in West London. I do not know the specific areas but there are sizeable communities in Ealing, Alperton, Wembley, Edgeware, Sheperds Bush & Kensington (all West London).

Yeah most are Iraqis & Lebanese I think. Then there are Palestinians, Egyptians, Saudis, Sudanese, Omanis & Yemenis. There are not so much others like Algerian or Tunisian etc as they live mostly in France as you said. I think there are some Morrocans too though.

Many Lebanese came during the civil war there in the 70s, the Saudis mainly came in the 90s and 2000s and the Iraqis & Palestinians (though not so much the Palestinians, though they are smaller in number) have mostly come very recently as refugees.




Saudis are not so much dominant in number but rather in influence (in the upper class markets usually).

There are very few Gulf Arabs, the ones who are here (i.e. Qataris etc) are like the Saudis with the top spots in the housing/hotel markets or are students at universities.


I don't really know the situation of Arabs among themselves though I don't expect them to be united as one single entity to a great degree. My Lebanese friend said our Algerian friend speaks a funny and not very true dialect of Arabic, but I dunno. The Lebanese generally keep to themselves. I'm sure each of the Arab peoples do the same too in London.

[Haris]

yes i do, ino what wev been thru, the fights the police cases the courts etc all of that but there comes a time where you need to stop and and set a better example and start to act mature or all the other little afghans at school gona think its cool to do this and dat and every generation keeps doing it and its like a loop, open your mind and get out that loop

That's the wisest thing i've heard you say man.


I keep telling this to one of my childhood friends whose in year 10 atm and who gets into trouble a lot. His parents are always scared he'll end up in jail permanently. He's changed a lot though, see's sense, at least when he talks with me, dunno what he gets up to in his own time. I think of him as a little apprentice lol.

[sahil112]

That's the wisest thing i've heard you say man.


I keep telling this to one of my childhood friends whose in year 10 atm and who gets into trouble a lot. His parents are always scared he'll end up in jail permanently. He's changed a lot though, see's sense, at least when he talks with me, dunno what he gets up to in his own time. I think of him as a little apprentice lol.

aha thanks haris!!! and yh man lazh nisyat chi wurta kawo they will all get on the good path

still gt wrk at 10 so gna hit bed wid sum immortal tech

shpa mu pakhairrr