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    Someone had a thread about pimping and today I saw this article so I thought I would share.


    The curse of number 39 and the
    steps Afghans take to avoid it


    Car owners with 39 licence plates lament the stigma of a
    number associated with pimps and prostitution


    A car number plate is altered to disguise the dreaded 39 in Kabul, Afghanistan.
    Photograph: Nooruddin Bakhsh


    Ordinarily the sight of a man having the numbers on his licence plate
    altered at a paint shop would would raise questions about whether a crime
    was being covered up. Was the man guilty of some hit and run attack?
    Perhaps he had stolen the valuable four wheel drive Toyota Prado – a
    government vehicle as denoted by its black plates.

    In fact the man, who did not give his name, had simply got fed up with all
    the taunts from fellow road users amused by the fact that his licence plate
    began with the number 39. For reasons that remain hazy, the number has
    somehow become lodged in the Afghan popular imagination as a sign of
    pimping and prostitution.

    This week the man finally had enough. Whilst waiting for his children to
    come out of their primary school he parked his car in broad daylight at a
    nearby paint shop and paid the resident calligrapher a couple of dollars to
    artfully turn the number nine into eight, in both the Persian and Arabic
    versions.

    All around Kabul unfortunate owners of 39 number plates tell the same
    story of the abuse they face on the roads of one of the world's most
    socially conservative countries.

    "I did not think it would matter when I got my car," said Zalmay Ahmadi, a
    22-year-old business student. "But when I drive around all the other cars
    flash their lights, beep their horns and people point at me. All my
    classmates now call me Colonel 39."

    Public aversion to the number is such that the city's traffic police
    department, normally a scene of frantic car owners wrestling with the
    multiple layers of bureaucracy responsible for issuing number plates, is
    virtually deserted.

    The problem, workers at the department say, is that they are currently
    only issuing number 39 plates – and there are still another 260 plates
    bearing the dreaded 39 to allocate.

    Those who cannot wait can pay a premium to get another number.

    "The traffic commission workers are demanding bribes of $230 (£142) to
    issue a different number," said Zamin Ali, a 51-year-old who works as a
    driver. "It makes no sense because the number does not mean anything in
    sharia law, or in the hadith or mathematics. But if you try and sell a car
    with a 39 number plate you will have to discount it by $2,000."

    It is not just car number plates. According to Mohammad Zahir, the head
    of Kabul's criminal investigations department, the unfortunate owners of
    flat 39 in one of the old Soviet-era housing blocks have been unable find
    anyone to take it off them.

    "If anyone buys or rents that flat all the boys in the neighbourhood will
    taunt them," he said.

    Although many people say they have no idea why the number is so reviled,
    it is possibly based on the apocryphal tale of a pimp who worked in the
    western city of Herat who had both a 39 number plate and lived in an
    apartment numbered 39.

    The shunning of 39 comes weeks after horrified drivers frantically removed
    once coveted rainbow decorations on imported cars after discovering that
    they were gay pride symbols.


    The curse of number 39 and the steps Afghans take to avoid it | World news | The Guardian







    Absolutely hilarous, lol @ 'Colonel 39'

    Although it seems to be a serious problem, help raise awareness on facebook:
    Let's Fight Against Wrong mentality About Number 39 In Afghanistan | Facebook
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    To advise others is an easy matter, the difficulty is accepting advice -- since it is bitter for those who follow their
    own inclinations and desires
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    -Imam al Ghazali

  • #2
    oooooooooo yeah!
    people have been killed over this matter. there so many cars that are not being licensed because no one wants a number plate with these digits on them. cars that already do have a number plate with this digit is almost worthless.

    I am no bird, and no nest ensnares me.

    non commercial would cost less if he was in charge himself which he plans on doing. right now it's n herat but soon it will be in qanadahar.

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    • #3
      Another stipidity of Afghans.
      Last edited by Digital Malang; 11-20-2011, 10:04 AM.
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      • #4
        I think its cute
        It's enough that I know, Our time had a home, In your heart..Was a place..But the glass always breaks..

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        • #5
          39.

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          • #6
            What about 19 ?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by emkhan View Post
              What about 19 ?
              No. 39.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by SmoothCriminal View Post
                No. 39.
                19th is my birth date. it is said 19 is lucky. is it ?

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                • #9
                  you don't qualify emkhan. please don't cry.

                  I am no bird, and no nest ensnares me.

                  non commercial would cost less if he was in charge himself which he plans on doing. right now it's n herat but soon it will be in qanadahar.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by DaZahroJaam. View Post
                    you don't qualify emkhan. please don't cry.
                    How can you say that ?

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                    • #11
                      ^ cuz emkhan 19th is the Jinn Bingo night
                      It's enough that I know, Our time had a home, In your heart..Was a place..But the glass always breaks..

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                      • #12
                        This whole thing is so unbelievably stupid.

                        Even in the Loya jirga that was just held where the delegates were split into 40 groups, those in group 39 demanded their group number be changed to 41.



                        Loya jirga: Afghan elders
                        reject 'pimp's number 39'



                        Delegates have been discussing Afghan-US strategy -
                        as well as the number 39


                        Officials at a meeting of elders in Kabul changed a committee's number after delegates
                        rejected 39 because of an Afghan belief that the number is associated with pimps.

                        Delegates at the gathering, or loya jirga, convened by Afghan President Hamid Karzai,
                        divided into 40 groups to consider Afghan-US relations.

                        Elders refused to take part in group 39 until its number was changed to 41.

                        The number is held as a mark of great shame across Afghanistan.

                        Correspondents say some believe the taboo started because a pimp had 39 on his
                        vehicle number plate. But others say it dates from an old way of calculating numbers
                        called "Abjad".

                        Many delegates at the loya jirga voiced their fervent opposition to being part of
                        committee 39, one attendee told the BBC's Bilal Sarwary in Kabul.

                        ''One delegate said: 'I don't want to return to my area and be called a pimp. I don't
                        care if it is true or not, but people out there believe in it. Look no one wants to have
                        a vehicle with number plate 39. And yet, you want me to be in 39?''' the member said.

                        But there were some who saw the outcry as an unnecessary diversion from more
                        important matters.

                        "It is sad to see delegates raise such issues at such an important meeting. We have
                        more important things to deal with," one delegate from northern Afghanistan said.

                        "But when I raised it, everyone else told me to shut up. Everyone said, they didn't
                        want to be called [a pimp] or their children and family members harassed in streets,
                        schools and neighbourhoods. So than a committee 41 was established,'' the delegate
                        continued.

                        Officials at the loya jirga said they never expected this to be a sticking point at the
                        gathering, which is considering reconciliation with the Taliban as well as future
                        Afghan-US relations.

                        ''We needed 40 committees and we created 40. But a special solution was found for a
                        'special problem','' the official said.

                        In June, vehicle licensing officials in Afghanistan said that new registration plates with
                        the number 39 were stacking up because of the Afghan aversion to the number.



                        BBC News - Loya jirga: Afghan elders reject 'pimp's number 39'
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                        To advise others is an easy matter, the difficulty is accepting advice -- since it is bitter for those who follow their
                        own inclinations and desires
                        .


                        -Imam al Ghazali

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                          • #14
                            stupid afghans, grow up.

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                            • #15
                              Is this is a Kabul thing?
                              Even Adobe Photoshop can't change me.

                              A line[Durrand line] of hatred that raised a wall between the two brothers -Hamid Karzai

                              For generations, the Hindus of India prayed for deliverance from "the venom of the cobra, the teeth of the tiger and the vengeance of the Afghan."


                              The men of Kábul and Khilj also went home; and whenever they were questioned about the Musulmáns of the Kohistán (the mountains), and how matters stood there, they said, "Don't call it Kohistán, but Afghánistán; for there is nothing there but Afgháns and disturbances." Thus it is clear that for this reason the people of the country call their home in their own language Afghánistán, and themselves Afgháns. The people of India call them Patán; but the reason for this is not known. But it occurs to me, that when, under the rule of Muhammadan sovereigns, Musulmáns first came to the city of Patná, and dwelt there, the people of India (for that reason) called them Patáns—but God knows!

                              -Ferishta, 1560–1620

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