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  • #31
    Originally posted by Mostafa1919 View Post
    That´s true.
    English is the fourth language I learned.

    And you should jump to conclusions so easily and put things into my mouth I didn´t say.

    Being in favour of a nation state and rejecting internationalist ideologies who themselves have empirial ambitions IS NOT supporting the conquest of Muslim nations.

    Maybe you should check your own language and understanding regarding the principle of causality.
    I apologize, my Hislamic brother. I really hope your OWN fasts, and prayers get accepted. Cause it's sure, you do not care for others.

    I pray Muslims strive for a one ummah. Or Hislamic followers stay ignorant, divided, downtrodden failures they are in and will always be in.

    A Pashtunistan will surely fail.

    A Loy Afghanistan will fail.

    A indepedent Baluchistan will fail

    Afg/Pak already is failing

    It's a reason why separate Hislamic countries fail, or are puppets.

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    • #32
      dont u ppl see that a treaty of 28 countries called NATO are combined for what cause ?
      their establishments is running quite well but ours will fail?
      choosing the pushtoon to be your platform you are going to have 50 million out of the total out of 7 billion how would a 50 million ppl do something good for the sake of humanity?

      choosing the islam you would make 1.97 billion and the number is still increasing day by day something you can do for humanity.
      Za REHMAN da aagha ilm a pannah ghwarham…
      Che la deena la mazhaba wee sewa…

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      • #33
        Originally posted by KingKhan View Post
        I apologize, my Hislamic brother. I really hope your OWN fasts, and prayers get accepted. Cause it's sure, you do not care for others.

        I pray Muslims strive for a one ummah. Or Hislamic followers stay ignorant, divided, downtrodden failures they are in and will always be in.

        A Pashtunistan will surely fail.

        A Loy Afghanistan will fail.

        A indepedent Baluchistan will fail

        Afg/Pak already is failing

        It's a reason why separate Hislamic countries fail, or are puppets.
        I am used to anti-internationalist rhetorics.

        I have heard Maoists and Communists calling me names, I have been excluded out of Islam by Islamists many times before just because I don´t wanna sacrifice my own people for imperialist and megalomaniac ideas of others.

        It´s ok!

        So, when the time arrives when you answer my questions, I will come back and debate.
        The only constant is change.

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        • #34
          Clauswewitz was an macho, egotistical coward, a man who wrote a book On War. This book has been discredited because it supports war against the whole population of people. Sun Tzu years before stated that this does not work. Sun Tzu's book "The Art of War" theoretically explains why Talibs are winning. The book is about war in general.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Mostafa1919 View Post
            And I asked you what kinda unification can be achieved if the nations who are Muslim aren´t on one level and don´t share any kind of common interests.
            take a look of this


            Originally posted by Naveed Safi View Post
            thanks for sharing your views
            YES I agreed with you that all the muslims are neither on the same economic level and nor are their NEEDS the same but brother talking about the goal, interests, issues and challenges don't you think so that all the muslims share these things? what do you think that why is war implemented on afghanistan, iraq, vietnam, and now the Libya?
            Why is Iran a thorn in the eyes of america?
            i am of the believe that all the muslims share these interests.
            a
            Last edited by Naveed Safi; 08-26-2011, 02:23 PM.
            Za REHMAN da aagha ilm a pannah ghwarham…
            Che la deena la mazhaba wee sewa…

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Mostafa1919 View Post
              I am used to anti-internationalist rhetorics.

              I have heard Maoists and Communists calling me names, I have been excluded out of Islam by Islamists many times before just because I don´t wanna sacrifice my own people for imperialist and megalomaniac ideas of others.

              It´s ok!

              So, when the time arrives when you answer my questions, I will come back and debate.
              You dont have any questions. Sorry, but choosing to be separate isnt what being a Muslim is about. your a Nationlist, which is not apart of Islam.

              if your not a Muslim, then please forgive me for assuming you were one. the only people who dont support a Khilifah are Non-believers, and puppet masters.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by katushyas View Post
                Clauswewitz was an macho, egotistical coward, a man who wrote a book On War. This book has been discredited because it supports war against the whole population of people. Sun Tzu years before stated that this does not work. Sun Tzu's book "The Art of War" theoretically explains why Talibs are winning. The book is about war in general.

                Where is the connection between my signature and the topic we discuss here?

                The only constant is change.

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                • #38
                  dont u ppl see that a treaty of 28 countries called NATO are combined for what cause ...

                  ahemmmmm ahemmm
                  تار تار پروت دی چا راټول نه کړو سائله
                  د پښتون وطن ګرېوان د لېوني دی

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                  • #39
                    ..

                    Originally posted by KingKhan View Post
                    You dont have any questions. .....

                    Originally posted by Mostafa1919 View Post
                    During a discussion you have to start to make sense at one point.

                    You said, that I or people in general can´t be called Muslim if they do not want to unite with other Muslims politically.

                    I asked you if that point is a requirement to be called Muslims or be Muslim and you didn´t elaborate.

                    And I asked you what kinda unification can be achieved if the nations who are Muslim aren´t on one level and don´t share any kind of common interests.

                    Further I asked you what the difference is if the established Ummah would have to maintaine the national and linguistic blocks within it´s own system just to be able to govern them successfully and the nation states now?


                    You have to tackle the points in a discussion that are directed to you and not repeat yourself and your idealogical point of view without elaborating on the questions people ask you.

                    That´s what discussion culture is all about!
                    ?
                    The only constant is change.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Naveed Safi View Post
                      If you were given choices to select a platform which one will be you going to select?

                      Pashtoon?

                      Afghanistan ya Loy Afghanistan ya pakhtoonistan?

                      Pakistan?

                      Islam?

                      i have no choices other than i am a muslim.
                      Islam. But we need to be smart.

                      Freedom for Afghanistan is more important now.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Mostafa1919 View Post
                        ?
                        A Muslim is one who Belives in Allah and his Messenger.

                        A Muslim is one who who doesn't abide by Jahilliya Nationlism.

                        A Muslim is one who strives to unite all Muslims.

                        A Muslim is one who fights Tyranny, with whatever way he can do.

                        A Muslim is not about himself, but for his ummah.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Mostafa1919 View Post
                          During a discussion you have to start to make sense at one point.

                          You said, that I or people in general can´t be called Muslim if they do not want to unite with other Muslims politically.

                          I asked you if that point is a requirement to be called Muslims or be Muslim and you didn´t elaborate.

                          And I asked you what kinda unification can be achieved if the nations who are Muslim aren´t on one level and don´t share any kind of common interests.

                          Further I asked you what the difference is if the established Ummah would have to maintaine the national and linguistic blocks within it´s own system just to be able to govern them successfully and the nation states now?

                          You have to tackle the points in a discussion that are directed to you and not repeat yourself and your idealogical point of view without elaborating on the questions people ask you.

                          That´s what discussion culture is all about!
                          The ummah, should form Emirates. Like an Emirate of Loy Afghanistan. An Emirate of North Africa. An Emirate in the Arabian Peninsula. An Emirate of the Caucuses. An Emirate of South East Asia. An Emirate of Mesopatamia (Iran, Iraq)

                          That should be the only interest for Muslims. If you aren't for the unification of the Emirates, then you aren't a Muslim.
                          Last edited by Guest; 08-26-2011, 03:26 PM.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Naveed Safi View Post
                            the formula of DIVIDE and RULE is mostly implemented on the muslims and they were on the ethnic basis.
                            on what basis was the durrand line?
                            the problem is youpakis have supported british raj against muslims but and afterwards continued to devide muslims by a fake boder created by the british.

                            than you guys also devided muslims of india.

                            so bottom line is ,there are hypocrites and there are muslims.

                            If you think unity of Pashtuns is something anti Islamic than you actually dont believe in muslim unity cuz you are out to cause friction between brothers.

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                            • #44
                              the problem is youpakis have supported british raj against muslims.......

                              we are just a slave of brtish raj..............but u 38 countries....

                              Da kam kam ----- na ba lekam....
                              تار تار پروت دی چا راټول نه کړو سائله
                              د پښتون وطن ګرېوان د لېوني دی

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Nokia_Apridey View Post
                                the problem is youpakis have supported british raj against muslims.......

                                we are just a slave of brtish raj..............but u 38 countries....

                                Da kam kam ----- na ba lekam....

                                You see us fight and resist.

                                We saw you sitting on your rifles at home for almost 150 years.

                                See the difference?
                                Or do you need us to elaborate more?
                                The only constant is change.

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