Khan Lala interviewed on TV

[Batman Girl]

so pious muslims sit around and form their opinion over people. tsk tsk.

[graveyardofempires]

Karzai is a munafiq....

but he says he is the real muslim and so does zardari say.
i mean lately there are these so called "moderates" who claim to be the real deal while condemning other muslims(conservatives).

[graveyardofempires]

Graveyard stop being a clown...u aint funny...

Karzai responsible for inviting people to kill his own. For stealing money from others and so on....

no clowning ,serious.
you are right about karzai

[Saifullah]

You don't need to be pious to recognise the lowest of humans in the world. You just need to be a Human being who accepts truth to realise that. That is why you have even non-muslims calling such people as hypocrites and traitors to their people...

[Saifullah]

So when somebody does everything possible against their religion and then says I am a true muslim, you will know whether that holds weight or not....Its kinda obvious. And if they then talk bad about somebody who just seems to wanna follow his religion, calling them 'bad' muslims, well their opinion doesn't matter...truth stands out clear from error

[Batman Girl]

You don't need to be pious to recognise the lowest of humans in the world. You just need to be a Human being who accepts truth to realise that. That is why you have even non-muslims calling such people as hypocrites and traitors to their people...

so in other words, you are saying.. that you don't need religion to be a good person..

good work..mate

[graveyardofempires]

agreed

[Saifullah]

Yea you can be a good person in this world without religion, but you forget that you have to die one day and there is another life which is eternal...

[Batman Girl]

then why are you a muslim.....? Morality comes from religion....

[graveyardofempires]

Yea you can be a good person in this world without religion, but you forget that you have to die one day and there is another life which is eternal...

but you should also be a good person according to religion in this world so its nto just about hereafter but your deeds on earth.

[Saifullah]

NO...Fitrah (nature) is in every human being when they are born. Islam is something which refines that nature and makes it permanent....But without religion you can get a sense of morality

[Khan Lala]

then why are you a muslim.....? Morality comes from religion....

morality no come only from religon but many differant place like your society and cultures

[Saifullah]

Grave he is saying you can do good deeds on this Earth even if you are a non-muslim. True. It is a good deed when non-muslims give charity and are generous to the poor. But it doesn't count in next life because they disbelieved.

[Sheenka]

khan lala thread switched to fighting thread lolz.

[Batman Girl]

NO...Fitrah (nature) is in every human being when they are born. Islam is something which refines that nature and makes it permanent....But without religion you can get a sense of morality

So you are saying.. we are born good.. and bad?

If you are born good, then why would you need religion to teach you something you already know...what defines good ? How do you know that an action you are commiting is good or bad?

does nature defines good and bad? or is it religion and GOd?