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  • #91
    Originally posted by faye View Post
    stop whining will you GOE. if you keep writing crap what can you expect.
    Faye
    you are annoying me and dont come between me and phatans

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    • #92
      Originally posted by Master Khan View Post
      Wow this forum had become too long.
      To be honest the Word "Afghan" just don't mean Pashtun anymore.
      If we want to united with Afghanistan then we should change the name to "Pashtunistan".
      the world things that Afghanistan national lanugauge is Farsi, I am not saying that I hate Farsi or anthing but as a Pashtun nation we should keep OUR langauge alive.
      i totally disagree
      while in pukhtunkhwa parliament they speak only urdu(yes all pashtuns but speak urdu with eathother) in Afghanistan the national language is Pashto and dari.What makes you think that the defination of afghan can change?yes those ethicities also belogn to Afghanistan and after seeing at the durand jirga all this non sense that non pashtuns are anti pashtuns in Afghanistan went up in smoke.

      they were saying things such as our brothers from pukhtunkhwa or our fellow Afghans from pukhtunkhwa.
      the whole talk was pro pukhtun and pukhtunwali while there were more than half non Pashtuns attending.

      and guess what,the chairman of anti durand line jirga is hazara and he paid for all the expenses.

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      • #93
        ^^^^^^

        That is just one meeting, in a small country.

        Come to USA, and all Farsiwaana and even Afghan Pashtuns will call KP Pashtuns "Pakistani's". Over here KP Pashtuns mostly socialize with other Pakistani, and not Afghans (vice versa)

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        • #94
          ^
          thats not just one meeting but they had similar but larger meetings in Germany and London.

          how in the hell can they differentiate between KP pashtuns and Afghans?

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          • #95
            ^^^^^^^^^

            They could by just asking them where you from? If they say Peshawer or other places, their going to think "Pakistani"

            This is not my opinion, but alot of Afghans in Americas. I have spoken to many about this issue.

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            • #96
              Also calling people "Phatans" is not cool. How come you dont call Pashtuns who have been Persianized a special name?

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              • #97
                Originally posted by graveyardofempires View Post
                i totally disagree
                while in pukhtunkhwa parliament they speak only urdu(yes all pashtuns but speak urdu with eathother) in Afghanistan the national language is Pashto and dari.What makes you think that the defination of afghan can change?yes those ethicities also belogn to Afghanistan and after seeing at the durand jirga all this non sense that non pashtuns are anti pashtuns in Afghanistan went up in smoke.

                they were saying things such as our brothers from pukhtunkhwa or our fellow Afghans from pukhtunkhwa.
                the whole talk was pro pukhtun and pukhtunwali while there were more than half non Pashtuns attending.

                and guess what,the chairman of anti durand line jirga is hazara and he paid for all the expenses.
                Well Pakistan is NOT a Pashtun country so thats why they have to speak in URdu, and forget about ANP lol, they are Zardari's little puppets, we don't care about them.

                The thing is wrora, you said that we KP pashtuns are punjabi gulaamian etc etc, but we can said the same thing to you.
                If you want a Pashtuns nation then it should only be PASHTUNS.
                I am not saying that I hate Non pashtuns but a pashtuns nation will have to start with only pashtuns.

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                • #98
                  you are right there might be people who are ignorant and would say pakistani to a pukhtun from pekhawer ,the same way these people will socialise with iranians and want to be like them.
                  anyway i know america people in america are way out of touch.

                  btw there were numerous Pukhtane from pukhtunkhwa and the speaker was very bright alhamdulilah and ive learned alot about pukhtunkhwa.

                  Pashtuns who are persianised?you mean pukhtane who cant speak their language anymore?well i call them ignorant and stupid but still they are Afghans and they are staunch supporters of Pashtun aspirations such as end to durrand line and they also are waking up as i can see in my surroudings.
                  i was pushed to call people phatans to differentiate between pukhtane and those sellouts who justify torture,and invasion of pukhtane by paki army,people such as shehbaz etc.

                  why did you think i was callign people phatans?

                  will eb back ,praying time.

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by Master Khan View Post
                    Wow this forum had become too long.
                    To be honest the Word "Afghan" just don't mean Pashtun anymore.
                    If we want to united with Afghanistan then we should change the name to "Pashtunistan".
                    the world things that Afghanistan national lanugauge is Farsi, I am not saying that I hate Farsi or anthing but as a Pashtun nation we should keep OUR langauge alive.
                    mung khu da Parsiwanu psay Topic na da ragestay khu chay


                    zma na di za ya sanga wrta wayam chay ZMA wruna di ?..

                    dasey khu US Nato tol pa Afghanistan ka 10 kalo rasay di

                    haga bya zma wruna shwal ?.......Cmon mara Mastera da Ghut Saray

                    na pohgey..............Dew dostam awo ahmed shah Maloch

                    khpal Plara shmerey............da PUKHTUNISTAN da num na ya karka

                    da zay deo ta walay Pakistanay yam zka chay deo PUKHTUNISTAN

                    da Takay (word) na karka da.......
                    .....


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                    • Originally posted by Master Khan View Post
                      Well Pakistan is NOT a Pashtun country so thats why they have to speak in URdu, and forget about ANP lol, they are Zardari's little puppets, we don't care about them.

                      The thing is wrora, you said that we KP pashtuns are punjabi gulaamian etc etc, but we can said the same thing to you.
                      If you want a Pashtuns nation then it should only be PASHTUNS.
                      I am not saying that I hate Non pashtuns but a pashtuns nation will have to start with only pashtuns.
                      Pakistan is not a Pashtun country,but Afghanistan is country of Pashtuns.
                      yes there also live other ethicities which ended here under different circumstances such as when we ruled samarqand bukhara in the time of Islamic Empire and later when russians runned over countries such as tajikistan uzbekistan and banned islam in those countries,these people ran to us and we protected them against the russians while their ancesteral land became communised and people were call masodov and ahmadov and Islam was outlawd.We also have punjabis who also came there over a couple of hundreds of years ago and we also have nuristanis whose ancesters are the ancient macedonians.
                      Why forget ANP?ANP are not bad people ,they are under extreme pressure to give up their identity for Pakistan and justofy the invasion of pukhtunkhwa by "pak" army.
                      where exactly did i say that?yes i did say there are people who are ghulams of ghulams of the british raj,and thats the truth.
                      I myself am originally from Bajaur if traced back to some centuries ago.
                      What can you say about me?

                      Wake up there will never be a Pashtuns only country,thats just a punchline to have us running in circles.Pashtuns country is Afghanistan and Pukhtunkhwa is occupied by Pakis who are in line with Mughul,Ranjeeth singh,british etc.
                      A pashtun Nation already exists and its Afghanistan,you make it sound as if a country for Pashtuns is yet to be created such as a coutry for kurds such as Kurdistan.
                      I dont believe in such a country cuz thats totally fascist and what about the other ethnicities living in pukhtunkhwa,peopel such as hindkowan etc?
                      I do believe there should be a big centre of Pukhto and the more it goes towards pakistan(closed to atok river) there pukhtane should be able to speak both urdu and pukhto,the centre should be pukhtunkhwa and in Afghanistan it should be jalalabad,kandahar,kunar,laghman,khost,(Bar pukhtunkhwa these places should be pukhto exclusively and a centre for Pukhto Language (centre of gravity)),and the more we go further it is nice to have people knowing pukhto and dari.

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                      • Dar ma Wajaral dara khasta Qesa wa...

                        such as tajikistan uzbekistan and banned islam in those countries,these people ran to us and we protected them against the russians while their ancesteral land became communised and people were call masodov and ahmadov and Islam was outlawd
                        .....


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                        • Pa lando tako ka rata da waya chay Da Khawra da cha wa ?....

                          Miriws neka ba hem da tajikstan na ragley wi

                          Emal Khan baba ba hem da Uzbikstan na ragly wi

                          Sanubar baba ba hem da da Bukhara na raglhay wi

                          Sher shah baba hem da Iran wi >....

                          aow rekhtya ...........staso mashran khu deo di deo Afghanistan da para wena wrakray da


                          dostum
                          khalili
                          karzai
                          rabani
                          fahim
                          2X abdullah
                          etc ...........according to u....hem ?
                          .....


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                          • ^
                            you dont make sense

                            take a hike

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                            • I am just sick and tired of we pashtun having to learn another langauge, in Afghanistan we have to learn Dari and Pakistan we have to learn Urdu, its about time we become in charge, Afghanistan is mostly Dari and you know it.
                              Whenever you watch Afghan shows etc its mostly in Dari.
                              pashto is always a second language and for Pakistan is nothing.

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                              • Mastera ror bya khu da insan da lest na obasey chay tata parsi na wi ezda
                                .....


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