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  • Is like saying Talibans are terrorist...which they are not.

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    • Originally posted by Dreamer View Post
      look at the oath that we take in the first few sentences

      FIRST DO NO HARM (hippocratoc oath)
      What oath?

      Who takes this oath?

      Who sticks to their oath ?

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      • I like Bijli Ghar - seriously.

        Despite the fact his language might seem inflammatory to some, hes a straight talking and a very principled guy and I can imagine the childhood he had was a very tough one. Not like us, being spoon-fed everything. And that has shaped him and turned him into the person he is. He has met some VERY illustrious people in his life and has tried to be "bought" by a number of presidents which he told them all to get stuffed.

        He's from an age and time that really fascinates me. I can excuse him for his jokes because I know/have heard many stories of the life and times from family who similarly lived in such turbulent era i.e. creation of pakistan, soviet war etc.

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        • dont get me started on those fanatics....
          this is our oath... I have sworn it as have many other Drs... dnt compare us 2 mullahs

          I swear to fulfill, to the best of my ability and judgment, this covenant:
          I will respect the hard-won scientific gains of those physicians in whose steps I walk, and gladly share such knowledge as is mine with those who are to follow.
          I will apply, for the benefit of the sick, all measures [that] are required, avoiding those twin traps of overtreatment and therapeutic nihilism.
          I will remember that there is art to medicine as well as science, and that warmth, sympathy, and understanding may outweigh the surgeon's knife or the chemist's drug.
          I will not be ashamed to say "I know not," nor will I fail to call in my colleagues when the skills of another are needed for a patient's recovery.
          I will respect the privacy of my patients, for their problems are not disclosed to me that the world may know. Most especially must I tread with care in matters of life and death. If it is given to me to save a life, all thanks. But it may also be within my power to take a life; this awesome responsibility must be faced with great humbleness and awareness of my own frailty. Above all, I must not play at God.
          I will remember that I do not treat a fever chart, a cancerous growth, but a sick human being, whose illness may affect the person's family and economic stability. My responsibility includes these related problems, if I am to care adequately for the sick.
          I will prevent disease whenever I can, for prevention is preferable to cure.
          I will remember that I remain a member of society, with special obligations to all my fellow human beings, those sound of mind and body as well as the infirm.
          If I do not violate this oath, may I enjoy life and art, respected while I live and remembered with affection thereafter. May I always act so as to preserve the finest traditions of my calling and may I long experience the joy of healing those who seek my help.
          Frater aliquis in fide nec fratrem humanitatis


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          • Where is Bijli Ghar mullah now??
            I really liked his Videos, the men was right about Pakistan..I respect him.

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            • anyway time to break my Fast ..bye.

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              • he is a misogynist pig
                Frater aliquis in fide nec fratrem humanitatis


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                • Originally posted by Dreamer View Post
                  dont get me started on those fanatics....
                  this is our oath... I have sworn it as have many other Drs... dnt compare us 2 mullahs

                  I swear to fulfill, to the best of my ability and judgment, this covenant:
                  I will respect the hard-won scientific gains of those physicians in whose steps I walk, and gladly share such knowledge as is mine with those who are to follow.
                  I will apply, for the benefit of the sick, all measures [that] are required, avoiding those twin traps of overtreatment and therapeutic nihilism.
                  I will remember that there is art to medicine as well as science, and that warmth, sympathy, and understanding may outweigh the surgeon's knife or the chemist's drug.
                  I will not be ashamed to say "I know not," nor will I fail to call in my colleagues when the skills of another are needed for a patient's recovery.
                  I will respect the privacy of my patients, for their problems are not disclosed to me that the world may know. Most especially must I tread with care in matters of life and death. If it is given to me to save a life, all thanks. But it may also be within my power to take a life; this awesome responsibility must be faced with great humbleness and awareness of my own frailty. Above all, I must not play at God.
                  I will remember that I do not treat a fever chart, a cancerous growth, but a sick human being, whose illness may affect the person's family and economic stability. My responsibility includes these related problems, if I am to care adequately for the sick.
                  I will prevent disease whenever I can, for prevention is preferable to cure.
                  I will remember that I remain a member of society, with special obligations to all my fellow human beings, those sound of mind and body as well as the infirm.
                  If I do not violate this oath, may I enjoy life and art, respected while I live and remembered with affection thereafter. May I always act so as to preserve the finest traditions of my calling and may I long experience the joy of healing those who seek my help.

                  Many people make oaths ...not everyone sticks to them.... so I am not sure what your point is..

                  Sometimes when a person is shown something ... be it materialistic or something that has to do with power ..their interests .. or what they're doing can change for the wrong...or maybe for the better....and thus the oath they made previously ..can no longer exist for them.

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                  • bye MK.
                    lol im sorry i brought up this topic

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                    • time to get ready for tarawi

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                      • ^ InshaAllah ..dua khu rata waka lutfannn

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                        • Havent been to tarwaeh in many years
                          Frater aliquis in fide nec fratrem humanitatis


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                          • Last year I was fortunate to do one night of taraweh behind Shaykh Mishary Rashid ..absolutely indescribable and awesome MashaAllah.

                            Aseer =) Shukar dai sha haal dai ...sta tsa haal dai ...dah roza saara tsenga yeh?

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                            • saalam everyone

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                              • Np ...

                                so I guess this means I don't have to look further? lol.

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