is it true that if you cry after someone who has passed away, they will be tormented in the grave?
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Originally posted by DaZahroJaam. View Postis it true that if you cry after someone who has passed away, they will be tormented in the grave?
Wailing and rasing one's voice will do that but simple crying will not as it is natural for humans to grieve one's death. Even Muhammad (saw) wept when his son Ibrahim (ra) died and he wept at the deaths of others and at their graves.
Some of the relevant hadtihs regarding the issue:
Al-Bukhaari (1291) and Muslim (933) narrated that al-Mugheerah
(may Allaah be pleased with him) said: I heard the Prophet
(peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) say: “Whoever is
lamented will be tormented because of that lamentation (or wailing).”
Muslim added: “On the Day of Resurrection.”
Al-Bukhaari (1292) and Muslim (927) narrated from Ibn ‘Umar from his
father (may Allaah be pleased with them both) that the Prophet
(peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “The deceased is
tormented in his grave because of the lamentations (wailing) over him.”
Al-Bukhaari (1288) and Muslim (929) narrated that Ibn Abi Mulaykah said:
A daughter of ‘Uthmaan (may Allaah be pleased with him) died in Makkah,
and we came to attend (her funeral), and Ibn ‘Umar and Ibn ‘Abbaas also
attended. I was sitting between them and there came a sound from the
house. ‘Abd-Allaah ibn ‘Umar said to ‘Amr ibn ‘Uthmaan: “Why don’t you
tell them not to weep? For the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings
of Allaah be upon him) said: ‘The deceased is tormented because of the
crying of his family for him.’” Ibn ‘Abbaas (may Allaah be pleased with him)
said: “ ‘Umar used to say something like that.” Then he narrated the story
and said: When ‘Umar was attacked, Suhayb came in crying and saying,
“O my brother, O my friend.” ‘Umar (may Allaah be pleased with him) said:
“O Suhayb, are you crying for me, when the Messenger of Allaah (peace
and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: ‘The deceased is tormented
because of the crying of his family for him’?”
Ibn ‘Abbaas (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: When ‘Umar died,
I mentioned that to ‘Aa’ishah (may Allaah be pleased with her) and she
said: “May Allaah have mercy on ‘Umar, by Allaah the Messenger of Allaah
(peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) did not say that Allaah will
punish the believer for his family’s crying over him, rather the Messenger
of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Allaah will
increase the torment of the kaafir because of his family’s crying for him.”
And she said: “The Qur’aan is sufficient for you: ‘and no bearer of burdens
shall bear the burden of another’ [Al-An’aam 6:164].”
Ibn Abi Mulaykah said: By Allaah, Ibn ‘Umar did not comment about that.
Al-Qaasim ibn Muhammad narrated to me: when ‘Aa’ishah heard what ‘Umar
and Ibn ‘Umar (may Allaah be pleased with them both) had said, she said:
“You are narrating to me from two who were not liars and are not to be
disbelieved, but sometimes a man may mishear.”
Detailed explanations from various views:
Islam Question and Answer - What is meant by the deceased being tormented because of his family
From Riyad-us Saliheen (a widely-read book of hadiths):
The Ruling of crying and wailing over a Dead PersonLast edited by Haris; 08-22-2011, 11:09 AM.---
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To advise others is an easy matter, the difficulty is accepting advice -- since it is bitter for those who follow their
own inclinations and desires.
-Imam al Ghazali
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okay..thanksOriginally posted by Haris View PostWailing and rasing one's voice will do that but simple crying will not as it is natural for humans to grieve one's death. Even Muhammad (saw) wept when his son Ibrahim (ra) died and he wept at the deaths of others and at their graves.
Some of the relevant hadtihs regarding the issue:
Al-Bukhaari (1291) and Muslim (933) narrated that al-Mugheerah
(may Allaah be pleased with him) said: I heard the Prophet
(peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) say: “Whoever is
lamented will be tormented because of that lamentation (or wailing).”
Muslim added: “On the Day of Resurrection.”
Al-Bukhaari (1292) and Muslim (927) narrated from Ibn ‘Umar from his
father (may Allaah be pleased with them both) that the Prophet
(peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “The deceased is
tormented in his grave because of the lamentations (wailing) over him.”
Al-Bukhaari (1288) and Muslim (929) narrated that Ibn Abi Mulaykah said:
A daughter of ‘Uthmaan (may Allaah be pleased with him) died in Makkah,
and we came to attend (her funeral), and Ibn ‘Umar and Ibn ‘Abbaas also
attended. I was sitting between them and there came a sound from the
house. ‘Abd-Allaah ibn ‘Umar said to ‘Amr ibn ‘Uthmaan: “Why don’t you
tell them not to weep? For the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings
of Allaah be upon him) said: ‘The deceased is tormented because of the
crying of his family for him.’” Ibn ‘Abbaas (may Allaah be pleased with him)
said: “ ‘Umar used to say something like that.” Then he narrated the story
and said: When ‘Umar was attacked, Suhayb came in crying and saying,
“O my brother, O my friend.” ‘Umar (may Allaah be pleased with him) said:
“O Suhayb, are you crying for me, when the Messenger of Allaah (peace
and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: ‘The deceased is tormented
because of the crying of his family for him’?”
Ibn ‘Abbaas (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: When ‘Umar died,
I mentioned that to ‘Aa’ishah (may Allaah be pleased with her) and she
said: “May Allaah have mercy on ‘Umar, by Allaah the Messenger of Allaah
(peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) did not say that Allaah will
punish the believer for his family’s crying over him, rather the Messenger
of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Allaah will
increase the torment of the kaafir because of his family’s crying for him.”
And she said: “The Qur’aan is sufficient for you: ‘and no bearer of burdens
shall bear the burden of another’ [Al-An’aam 6:164].”
Ibn Abi Mulaykah said: By Allaah, Ibn ‘Umar did not comment about that.
Al-Qaasim ibn Muhammad narrated to me: when ‘Aa’ishah heard what ‘Umar
and Ibn ‘Umar (may Allaah be pleased with them both) had said, she said:
“You are narrating to me from two who were not liars and are not to be
disbelieved, but sometimes a man may mishear.”
Detailed explanations from various views:
Islam Question and Answer - What is meant by the deceased being tormented because of his family
From Riyad-us Saliheen (a widely-read book of hadiths):
The Ruling of crying and wailing over a Dead Person
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Happy to helpOriginally posted by DaZahroJaam. View Postokay..thanks
I just learned so much about my grandfather (may he rest in peace) and my other ancestors as well as my grandmother and the sacrafices my whole family took back in Afghanistan in those days.
I feel so proud and sad at the same time. It really inspired me and gave me goals as to what I want to do with my future life. Before I wasn't sure what I would end up as post-uni.
Next time I visit Afghanistan it will be with a completely different set of eyes.---
To advise others is an easy matter, the difficulty is accepting advice -- since it is bitter for those who follow their
own inclinations and desires.
-Imam al Ghazali
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