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  • is it true that if you cry after someone who has passed away, they will be tormented in the grave?

    I am no bird, and no nest ensnares me.

    non commercial would cost less if he was in charge himself which he plans on doing. right now it's n herat but soon it will be in qanadahar.

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    • Originally posted by DaZahroJaam. View Post
      is it true that if you cry after someone who has passed away, they will be tormented in the grave?

      Wailing and rasing one's voice will do that but simple crying will not as it is natural for humans to grieve one's death. Even Muhammad (saw) wept when his son Ibrahim (ra) died and he wept at the deaths of others and at their graves.





      Some of the relevant hadtihs regarding the issue:

      Al-Bukhaari (1291) and Muslim (933) narrated that al-Mugheerah
      (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: I heard the Prophet
      (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) say: “Whoever is
      lamented will be tormented because of that lamentation (or wailing)
      .”
      Muslim added: “On the Day of Resurrection.”

      Al-Bukhaari (1292) and Muslim (927) narrated from Ibn ‘Umar from his
      father (may Allaah be pleased with them both) that the Prophet
      (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “The deceased is
      tormented in his grave because of the lamentations (wailing) over him.
      ”

      Al-Bukhaari (1288) and Muslim (929) narrated that Ibn Abi Mulaykah said:
      A daughter of ‘Uthmaan (may Allaah be pleased with him) died in Makkah,
      and we came to attend (her funeral), and Ibn ‘Umar and Ibn ‘Abbaas also
      attended. I was sitting between them and there came a sound from the
      house. ‘Abd-Allaah ibn ‘Umar said to ‘Amr ibn ‘Uthmaan: “Why don’t you
      tell them not to weep? For the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings
      of Allaah be upon him) said: ‘The deceased is tormented because of the
      crying of his family for him.
      ’” Ibn ‘Abbaas (may Allaah be pleased with him)
      said: “ ‘Umar used to say something like that.” Then he narrated the story
      and said: When ‘Umar was attacked, Suhayb came in crying and saying,
      “O my brother, O my friend.
      ” ‘Umar (may Allaah be pleased with him) said:
      “O Suhayb, are you crying for me, when the Messenger of Allaah (peace
      and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: ‘The deceased is tormented
      because of the crying of his family for him’?
      ”

      Ibn ‘Abbaas (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: When ‘Umar died,
      I mentioned that to ‘Aa’ishah (may Allaah be pleased with her) and she
      said: “May Allaah have mercy on ‘Umar, by Allaah the Messenger of Allaah
      (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) did not say that Allaah will
      punish the believer for his family’s crying over him, rather the Messenger
      of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Allaah will
      increase the torment of the kaafir because of his family’s crying for him.
      ”
      And she said: “The Qur’aan is sufficient for you: ‘and no bearer of burdens
      shall bear the burden of another’
      [Al-An’aam 6:164].”

      Ibn Abi Mulaykah said: By Allaah, Ibn ‘Umar did not comment about that.
      Al-Qaasim ibn Muhammad narrated to me: when ‘Aa’ishah heard what ‘Umar
      and Ibn ‘Umar (may Allaah be pleased with them both) had said, she said:

      “You are narrating to me from two who were not liars and are not to be
      disbelieved, but sometimes a man may mishear.
      ”




      Detailed explanations from various views:

      Islam Question and Answer - What is meant by the deceased being tormented because of his family


      From Riyad-us Saliheen (a widely-read book of hadiths):

      The Ruling of crying and wailing over a Dead Person
      Last edited by Haris; 08-22-2011, 11:09 AM.
      ---
      To advise others is an easy matter, the difficulty is accepting advice -- since it is bitter for those who follow their
      own inclinations and desires
      .


      -Imam al Ghazali

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      • lol, I can relate to that

        Always used to happen.
        ---
        To advise others is an easy matter, the difficulty is accepting advice -- since it is bitter for those who follow their
        own inclinations and desires
        .


        -Imam al Ghazali

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          I advised that کوچنیانو is wrong so it should be ماشومانو
          I did corrected.


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          • mara da sa g---lllllllllllllllll shu .....da kas rala stargay khrbay kray........
            تار تار پروت دی چا راټول نه کړو سائله
            د پښتون وطن ګرېوان د لېوني دی

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            • whatuppp PF
              Ka Makh De Rana Hear Sho No Jehan Ba Rana Hear She
              Ka Nom De Rana Hear Sho No Khpal Zan Ba Rana Her She[

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              • ^
                ---
                To advise others is an easy matter, the difficulty is accepting advice -- since it is bitter for those who follow their
                own inclinations and desires
                .


                -Imam al Ghazali

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                • LOLLL uxb is such bait twn haris aha!!!
                  Ka Makh De Rana Hear Sho No Jehan Ba Rana Hear She
                  Ka Nom De Rana Hear Sho No Khpal Zan Ba Rana Her She[

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                    ---
                    To advise others is an easy matter, the difficulty is accepting advice -- since it is bitter for those who follow their
                    own inclinations and desires
                    .


                    -Imam al Ghazali

                    Comment


                    • jus gt a 1 hour lecture from my dad which has put me in a bad mood -_-
                      Ka Makh De Rana Hear Sho No Jehan Ba Rana Hear She
                      Ka Nom De Rana Hear Sho No Khpal Zan Ba Rana Her She[

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                      • LOL NAsrat is gay he banned me :S

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                        • LOL !

                          oh well :D

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                          • Originally posted by Haris View Post
                            Wailing and rasing one's voice will do that but simple crying will not as it is natural for humans to grieve one's death. Even Muhammad (saw) wept when his son Ibrahim (ra) died and he wept at the deaths of others and at their graves.





                            Some of the relevant hadtihs regarding the issue:

                            Al-Bukhaari (1291) and Muslim (933) narrated that al-Mugheerah
                            (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: I heard the Prophet
                            (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) say: “Whoever is
                            lamented will be tormented because of that lamentation (or wailing)
                            .”
                            Muslim added: “On the Day of Resurrection.”

                            Al-Bukhaari (1292) and Muslim (927) narrated from Ibn ‘Umar from his
                            father (may Allaah be pleased with them both) that the Prophet
                            (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “The deceased is
                            tormented in his grave because of the lamentations (wailing) over him.
                            ”

                            Al-Bukhaari (1288) and Muslim (929) narrated that Ibn Abi Mulaykah said:
                            A daughter of ‘Uthmaan (may Allaah be pleased with him) died in Makkah,
                            and we came to attend (her funeral), and Ibn ‘Umar and Ibn ‘Abbaas also
                            attended. I was sitting between them and there came a sound from the
                            house. ‘Abd-Allaah ibn ‘Umar said to ‘Amr ibn ‘Uthmaan: “Why don’t you
                            tell them not to weep? For the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings
                            of Allaah be upon him) said: ‘The deceased is tormented because of the
                            crying of his family for him.
                            ’” Ibn ‘Abbaas (may Allaah be pleased with him)
                            said: “ ‘Umar used to say something like that.” Then he narrated the story
                            and said: When ‘Umar was attacked, Suhayb came in crying and saying,
                            “O my brother, O my friend.
                            ” ‘Umar (may Allaah be pleased with him) said:
                            “O Suhayb, are you crying for me, when the Messenger of Allaah (peace
                            and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: ‘The deceased is tormented
                            because of the crying of his family for him’?
                            ”

                            Ibn ‘Abbaas (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: When ‘Umar died,
                            I mentioned that to ‘Aa’ishah (may Allaah be pleased with her) and she
                            said: “May Allaah have mercy on ‘Umar, by Allaah the Messenger of Allaah
                            (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) did not say that Allaah will
                            punish the believer for his family’s crying over him, rather the Messenger
                            of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Allaah will
                            increase the torment of the kaafir because of his family’s crying for him.
                            ”
                            And she said: “The Qur’aan is sufficient for you: ‘and no bearer of burdens
                            shall bear the burden of another’
                            [Al-An’aam 6:164].”

                            Ibn Abi Mulaykah said: By Allaah, Ibn ‘Umar did not comment about that.
                            Al-Qaasim ibn Muhammad narrated to me: when ‘Aa’ishah heard what ‘Umar
                            and Ibn ‘Umar (may Allaah be pleased with them both) had said, she said:

                            “You are narrating to me from two who were not liars and are not to be
                            disbelieved, but sometimes a man may mishear.
                            ”




                            Detailed explanations from various views:

                            Islam Question and Answer - What is meant by the deceased being tormented because of his family


                            From Riyad-us Saliheen (a widely-read book of hadiths):

                            The Ruling of crying and wailing over a Dead Person
                            okay..thanks

                            I am no bird, and no nest ensnares me.

                            non commercial would cost less if he was in charge himself which he plans on doing. right now it's n herat but soon it will be in qanadahar.

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                            • they say its better to burn then to fadee out... i jus hope to god i can fall into a sleep wer i can stayyy
                              Ka Makh De Rana Hear Sho No Jehan Ba Rana Hear She
                              Ka Nom De Rana Hear Sho No Khpal Zan Ba Rana Her She[

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                              • Originally posted by DaZahroJaam. View Post
                                okay..thanks
                                Happy to help


                                I just learned so much about my grandfather (may he rest in peace) and my other ancestors as well as my grandmother and the sacrafices my whole family took back in Afghanistan in those days.

                                I feel so proud and sad at the same time. It really inspired me and gave me goals as to what I want to do with my future life. Before I wasn't sure what I would end up as post-uni.

                                Next time I visit Afghanistan it will be with a completely different set of eyes.
                                ---
                                To advise others is an easy matter, the difficulty is accepting advice -- since it is bitter for those who follow their
                                own inclinations and desires
                                .


                                -Imam al Ghazali

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