Some Parting Thoughts

[ScimitarXEdge]

Honestly this has become an unproductive experience it was originally somewhat hopefully but the person who even urged me to come here has ended up becoming totally at odds with me. I also find myself declaring and saying things on this forum I shouldn't be saying so openly as this could put me into legal troubles.

I just want to say to everyone; Remember there is a deeper cause than just being our ethnicity or even from our region; what we face in Watan is a symptom of a GLOBAL problem; and the Global Problem is adversely affecting everyone; these individuals who want you to focus on superficial impediments are there to distract you from the bigger picture.

if you ever want to Liberate yourselves from the Immoral and Unjust corrupters of the Earth who worship the Idol of Materialism; Master Science and Mathematics, Develop your own technological resources and Unite Together as MUSLIMS first and foremost; not for Materialism but to defeat their corrupt institution and to restore Justice.

You live in the Belly of the Beast (their corrupt society) dont let detractors and opponents try to discredit you by calling you hypocrites who live in a society you oppose; Use the opportunity of being in their society to develop a strategy, gain strategic knowledge and develop skills which give you the ability overcome their obstacles.

The Slaves of Imperialists will try to distract and divert you from the bigger picture with different fraudulent claims; ignore them and move ahead.

The future is in our hands; With God's Grace the True and Pure Good will reclaim this Earth for his Honor.

Fi Aman Allah/Da Khudai Paman.

[unknownprince]

this is like the third time you have said your farewells, and there is a thing called freedom of speech here you know. No Patriot Act extension can ever hinder freedom of speech. People are allowed to speak against foreign aggression and brutality, and failed wars in the Muslim world.

this is allowed.

One can can speak with reason, and can say anything just as a redneck or hick can say what they want.

[unknownprince]

Word. Am about to be out as well.

I was talking to my aunt, and she said when did you start becoming a Pashtun extremist? This place has brainwashed me. She even threatened to call the cops on me. She might have been joking, but it wouldn't be the first time someone called the cops on me.

well, your Aunt, are you talking about your white American aunt?

How is speaking out against foreign aggression extremism? I would say not saying a word against such foreign intervention and terrorism is extremism . Extremism is a word made up by neocon losers who hate Islam.

[Shayesta]

I guess you guys haven't been active for too long. I joined ChaiKhana (previous Pukhto forum) over two years ago and even I had become a very anti non-Pukhtoon little creature, which everyone in my family noticed. Though, over the years, I have calmed down incredibly and I am by far not as emotional and rude with my comments any more. Don't leave guys, this forum will only help you handle things in future you struggle with at present, seriously.

[IamDZJ]

cowards
maybe you shouldn't have tried being something you weren't. you wouldn't be feeling this guilty and alienated from yourself.

[unknownprince]

UnknownPrince,

Before I also go, I would like to warn you for the nth time that their is no freedom of speech. I learned that in a hard way, and if you continue you too will learn it the hard way.


No it was my Afghan aunt, btw

There is freedom of speech.

You can speak out against foreign aggression and brutality against others even if your government is responsible for it.

You do not want our government exploiting the American people, taking their tax dollars, and pocketing and killing other poor people around the world.

Words are nothing at all, just spreading information which everyone should be aware of.

[ScimitarXEdge]

I said farewell but Admin keeps deleting my farewell posts; but now this is for the real message I'm "on the radar" so I cant write more on this places. Too much risk.

[unknownprince]

care to elaborate how you are "on the radar?"

[Toramana]

Honestly this has become an unproductive experience it was originally somewhat hopefully but the person who even urged me to come here has ended up becoming totally at odds with me. I also find myself declaring and saying things on this forum I shouldn't be saying so openly as this could put me into legal troubles.

I just want to say to everyone; Remember there is a deeper cause than just being our ethnicity or even from our region; what we face in Watan is a symptom of a GLOBAL problem; and the Global Problem is adversely affecting everyone; these individuals who want you to focus on superficial impediments are there to distract you from the bigger picture.

if you ever want to Liberate yourselves from the Immoral and Unjust corrupters of the Earth who worship the Idol of Materialism; Master Science and Mathematics, Develop your own technological resources and Unite Together as MUSLIMS first and foremost; not for Materialism but to defeat their corrupt institution and to restore Justice.

You live in the Belly of the Beast (their corrupt society) dont let detractors and opponents try to discredit you by calling you hypocrites who live in a society you oppose; Use the opportunity of being in their society to develop a strategy, gain strategic knowledge and develop skills which give you the ability overcome their obstacles.

The Slaves of Imperialists will try to distract and divert you from the bigger picture with different fraudulent claims; ignore them and move ahead.

The future is in our hands; With God's Grace the True and Pure Good will reclaim this Earth for his Honor.

Fi Aman Allah/Da Khudai Paman.

That is ok if you have decided to go...However, I will request you to stay on if you can...?

On this Global Problem thing, I will say that is the mispresentation and oversimplification of a more complex phenomenon where the interplay of a variety of factors including the technological might of the developed world and the regionalist or sub-globalist ambitions and desires of other groups like Pakistanis, Arabs, etc. are destroying weaker nations like Pashtuns by brainshing them into becoming cannon fodders for their agendas or victims of their firepower.

Yes, the implications of the growth of Science and technology are global but the politics and conflict of ideology, domination, power, and resource-access has local manifestation one example of which are Pashtuns that got caught in the cross-fire between communism and West-Islam and now between Arab and Pakistan-led and centered Muslim nationalism and the opposite pool...Millions killed and with land destroyed and lives devastated, they still don't have a good hope of stability and peace to return to their lives for at least a decade.

I hope you modify your binary world-view and don't misguide people especially Pashtun youngsters into embracing such things as the universal struggle between good and bad with good associated with one specific group and bad with another or the concept of a universal puriton state impossible of achievability...Hope you emphasize to them they as Muslims acquire the capabilities that would make them powerful in the long-run instead of brainwashing them into becoming pawns in the asymetric warfare to further weaken them and their societies.

[شمله ور خراساني]

Its better to be on the radar than off the radar. Because being of the radar means if they ever see anything suspicious they might investigate you or even catch you.

But when they already read and hear everything you say, its better. Because well, if you have nothing to hide you should be safe.

As we say in Pashto: che ghal na ye no da pacha na madarega ( if you aint a thief don't be scared of the king).

[Gulbabo]

bye bye. take care

[ScimitarXEdge]

In response to Toramana's comment

There is a saying "unity is strength" therefore Unification of Muslims would only strengthen Muslims not weaken them.


But it is just as I had predicted. Slaves of Imperialists will anxiously panic while desperately striving to do whatever it is in their power to Distract or Divert Muslims from collaborating and working together to improve their lives and repel Imperialism and reclaim Justice on Earth.

Try as they may to serve their Imperialist master who they're enslaved to; the Logical Contradictions of exhortations are easy to identify.

Something global cannot be an oversimpliciation by definition; since the Globalized mechanisms is what engenders the localized ones; and Localized ones are partial representations and thus cannot give a complete and accurate reaction against an underlying problem. Thus such arguments are really attempts at distracting Muslims from combating the real obstacles and keeping them occupied with fabricated smokescreens like Pakistan and Arab; In other words to keep Muslims enslaved to the corrupt Materialistic hegemony; just as the house slaves have become. Even though it was the corrupt exploiters of Global Hegemony who made Pakistan and manufactured extremism and manipulating Arabs as a scapegoat just as they're doing with pashtuns. They want us to worshp them as masters whole keep killing each other and our Brother/Sister Muslims.

It's Logically inconsistent that the slaves of Imperialists exhort that combating the Global elements as being used like pawns; when it's the distractions into manufactured symptoms is used to keep Muslims diverted fo the sake of maintaining the corrupt power structure of Materialistic imperialism.; which is by definition being used as pawns.

Unity is Strength.

[khushal]

I always thought that speaking your mind is for the betterment of mankind. Speaking ones mind brings ideas forward and through debate those ideas evolve and advance mankind by bringing peace to mankind. Thomas Jefferson fought for freedom of speech because he believed that through debate right always wins over wrong and that it was vital for the prevention of tyranny. As long as freedom of speech does not incite violence, then that freedom of speech actually advances society forward. If freedom of speech incites violence, then that speech depresses society. Nothing can be achieved through violence except destruction. Remember when Reagan was inciting violence in the Afghan Nation back in the 80's. The result was a country destroyed.

But on a different note. I noticed this one member initially was talking against the American occupation and all of a sudden he was like "God bless America," he changed his tune, I think he had a visitor.

As for Scimitar, I enjoy reading your posts so do drop in once in a while.

[faye]

you are a good balance of energies on this forum scimitarx. stay.

[khashayar]