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  • #16
    Originally posted by emkhan View Post
    Do you think is there any democracy thing exists in this world or this world is run by the agencies and armies ?
    Don't you think they are the real decision makers of our fate ?
    Don't you think we just waste our time and energies in voting different puppet rulers ?
    Don't you think this democracy thing is nothing but a deceit ?

    yes democracy is a fake illusion

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    • #17
      Originally posted by MrGhatMiyashey View Post
      yes democracy is a fake illusion
      you got the point ... its all a deceit... but nobody here like Toramana, comradepashtun and other so called writers want to write on this topic. i dont know wahy

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      • #18
        ^ they are eating there dinner

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        • #19
          i think they don't want to discuss this reality because they all are the preachers of democracy and are not ready to face the reality.

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          • #20
            what kind of governance do you favor if you dislike democracy?

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            • #21
              hmmm I will go for the Islamic system

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              • #22
                ^oh, cool.so you like all the chopped hands....and stoning to death............and 4 witness if a woman is raped etc.....................

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                • #23
                  hahahahha i was expecting the same question Lol.
                  I think i have talked about Islamic system and not any Talibanization.
                  If you study the era of Omar Farooq R.A then you can better understand what an Islamic system is.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by emkhan View Post
                    Do you think is there any democracy thing exists in this world or this world is run by the agencies and armies ?
                    Don't you think they are the real decision makers of our fate ?
                    Don't you think we just waste our time and energies in voting different puppet rulers ?
                    Don't you think this democracy thing is nothing but a deceit ?
                    well people vote for people they want to rule over them, this obviously exists in democratic nations. the extent to how much power is actually behind the scenes varies. if a state is independent then it doesnt matter if its a dictatorship or democracy, the rulers arent puppets. but if the state is subordinate to another power, dictator or elected president...it doesnt matter.

                    no one controls our fate but Allah, but here on earth regarding earthly things that effect our day to day lives, of course leaders have a profound effect on these things.

                    it varies from nation to nation. some nations are independent and others arent.

                    democracy is a system within a system, democracy in the west is within the system of secularism. a democracy in an islamic nation which upholds islamic law and values would be just fine. its simply choosing the best person to uphold these values. democracy is a fine man made system of governance, the problem is when people confuse the system as being some divine gods gift to man. it goes both ways too, the westerners who think democracy should rule the world, and the muslims who are opposed to it because they think of it as a western ideal. both sides are wrong, as westerners dont want to push democracy, but rather secular democracy and muslims are confused in thinking that democracy can only be secular. remember what happened when hamas won legitimate elections? the west regrets pushing democracy to the palis. thats what haapens when u take public opinion as the basis of the legitimacy of ur party(hamas) without sacrificing islamic values.
                    Last edited by randolph85; 05-07-2011, 03:49 AM.
                    There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

                    Sayyid Qutb

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                    • #25
                      stupid questions from an ignorant paki.

                      first you need to sort out your info regarding Afghanistan than come and ask questions.

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                      • #26
                        the democracies have been derailed by the rich. representatives of different groups getting together to make decisions is a good idea but the multnationals and the big banks are running the show and putting politicians, prime ministers and presidents in, that they can manipulate.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by graveyardofempires View Post
                          stupid questions from an ignorant paki.

                          first you need to sort out your info regarding Afghanistan than come and ask questions.
                          I had respect for you and considered you a true pukhtun but actually you are also a low class nurtured bad mouthed thing. When you can't debate then you start saying "you don't know Afghanistan".
                          I ask you which country on this planet is enjoying democracy ? My question was not about Afghanistan... it was all about democracy.
                          You should see how Randolph and Faye answered. You should also have done the same rather than calling people with different name...
                          You and DZJ fall in the same low class bad mouthed.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by faye View Post
                            the democracies have been derailed by the rich. representatives of different groups getting together to make decisions is a good idea but the multnationals and the big banks are running the show and putting politicians, prime ministers and presidents in, that they can manipulate.
                            Very true... Actually this world if you look into depth is run by a few minds. democracy is only to keep the people silent and use their energies for their vested interests.

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                            • #29
                              i'm just reading about a group of international bankers calling for global governance by them, of course. 'global governace is of the essence', apparently to avoid another financial crisis. hehehe.. yeah, right.

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                              • #30
                                International banks and IMF are actually remote control devices in hands of the super powers... The super power use these devices to keep the poor countries under their control. They give loans on heavy interest rates to the poor countries and those countries then can't pay back those loans and ultimately they become slaves of of these Banks and these banks then force their own policies on the poor countries... They interfere in the internal financial matters of the nations.
                                Consequently people can't even think with their own free will.

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