Is this not hypocrisy ???

[emkhan]

come out of your cocoon emkhan. dont be so naive.

when you are busted then you start hitting others with different names...
That is what your level

[Notorious Pashtana]

when you are busted then you start hitting others with different names...
That is what your level

You seriously think I am busted and that's why I said you are naive and need to come out of your cocoon? Seriously?

Well if you need it spelt out then here it is...

"SOME" women who are hired to dance infront of men don't do it out of pleasure, they do it for money. Don't throw money at them and give them alternative means to provide for themselves and their families and they will not dance. Those that are born and raised in the dancing world have not seen any other life, they will continue dancing for a living, but they did not get into that life out of choice, men pushed and forced them into it. Don't talk to me about my level, i can see right through your level with this stupid thread you've started. YES it is hypocritical, its common sense you dont need a thread for confirmation. If you want a reply then THIS is a reply, men are responsible, deal with it.

[emkhan]

You seriously think I am busted and that's why I said you are naive and need to come out of your cocoon? Seriously?

Well if you need it spelt out then here it is...

"SOME" women who are hired to dance infront of men don't do it out of pleasure, they do it for money. Don't throw money at them and give them alternative means to provide for themselves and their families and they will not dance. Those that are born and raised in the dancing world have not seen any other life, they will continue dancing for a living, but they did not get into that life out of choice, men pushed and forced them into it. Don't talk to me about my level, i can see right through your level with this stupid thread you've started. YES it is hypocritical, its common sense you dont need a thread for confirmation. If you want a reply then THIS is a reply, men are responsible, deal with it.

No beggar women is dancing there... Almost all of them have more money than us. This has become an industry so don't protect them.
You are with all those men who advocate for such women to gain their vested interests.

[Notorious Pashtana]

No beggar women is dancing there... Almost all of them have more money than us. This has become an industry so don't protect them.
You are with all those men who advocate for such women to gain their vested interests.

whaaaaaaat???
so you are saying begging is acceptable? don't you know that is also haram? how can you justify one ill doing with another???!!!

and where did you get the impression that i am advocating for men???

you are crazy.

[emkhan]

You seriously think I am busted and that's why I said you are naive and need to come out of your cocoon? Seriously?

Well if you need it spelt out then here it is...

"SOME" women who are hired to dance infront of men don't do it out of pleasure, they do it for money. Don't throw money at them and give them alternative means to provide for themselves and their families and they will not dance. Those that are born and raised in the dancing world have not seen any other life, they will continue dancing for a living, but they did not get into that life out of choice, men pushed and forced them into it. Don't talk to me about my level, i can see right through your level with this stupid thread you've started. YES it is hypocritical, its common sense you dont need a thread for confirmation. If you want a reply then THIS is a reply, men are responsible, deal with it.

Dont loose your temper. Cool down Mam

[emkhan]

whaaaaaaat???
so you are saying begging is acceptable? don't you know that is also haram? how can you justify one ill doing with another???!!!

and where did you get the impression that i am advocating for men???

you are crazy.

i did not say you are advocating for men. i said you are advocating for those women. and you find excuses for those women to continue their work and they are beggar and they don't have work so they should continue this job.

[Notorious Pashtana]

i did not say you are advocating for men. i said you are advocating for those women. and you find excuses for those women to continue their work and they are beggar and they don't have work so they should continue this job.

i said nothing of the sort. i am not advocating for them. i think they are exploited and it should be stopped. and i think the men are the ones who can stop it, BY NOT HIRING THEM!!!

does it make sense now???

[kakargirl]

emkhan, hypocrisy exists in all forms , its how the world is,but from beginning of time the dancing women exist and these things will go on until the day the world blows up and the mountains fly like cotton buds , then reality will hit people but its too late then, so why bother stopping something that cant be stopped.

[emkhan]

emkhan, hypocrisy exists in all forms , its how the world is,but from beginning of time the dancing women exist and these things will go on until the day the world blows up and the mountains fly like cotton buds , then reality will hit people but its too late then, so why bother stopping something that cant be stopped.

kakargirl, so it means we should shut down these forums and should not discuss anything because all problems are from long ago and it can not be solved until the sky shatters down ?

[emkhan]

i said nothing of the sort. i am not advocating for them. i think they are exploited and it should be stopped. and i think the men are the ones who can stop it, BY NOT HIRING THEM!!!

does it make sense now???

they are not blind and brainless that they are exploited. what do you want to prove a woman by calling her exploited.
do you want to say they weak ?

[kakargirl]

kakargirl, so it means we should shut down these forums and should not discuss anything because all problems are from long ago and it can not be solved until the sky shatters down ?

no the forums are important, because there are people in the world who believe these things are wrong , so that gives them peace of mind that others do think that this is wrong, and even if it changes a few women its a break through ,like every time conservative veiws are posted, so people who are conservative know that not everyone has changed in the west, that there, still are strict pashtuns in the west too.

[emkhan]

no the forums are important, because there are people in the world who believe these things are wrong , so that gives them peace of mind that others do think that this is wrong, and even if it changes a few women its a break through ,like every time conservative veiws are posted, so people who are conservative know that not everyone has changed in the west, that there, still are strict pashtuns in the west too.

hmmm yes but here we not only to know each others. But everyone is here to deliver his thought and the purpose of this pf should be to do Islah of our weaknesses no matter how old how firm and how big it is.

[Notorious Pashtana]

they are not blind and brainless that they are exploited. what do you want to prove a woman by calling her exploited.
do you want to say they weak ?

they are not weak. they are exploited, and they have no option but to be exploited, and make some money while at it. I don't know why you're getting in a twist over this, it's rather simple and straight forward. its an issue that isnt solvable, and those women do not have an alternative (yet), though i guarantee that if a feminist movement was to land amongst the pashtoon dancing girls you would be the first to condemn that too.

[MDresden]

Reminds me of the NGOs for women in Afghanistan...another exploited woman.

[emkhan]

they are not weak. they are exploited, and they have no option but to be exploited, and make some money while at it. I don't know why you're getting in a twist over this, it's rather simple and straight forward. its an issue that isnt solvable, and those women do not have an alternative (yet), though i guarantee that if a feminist movement was to land amongst the pashtoon dancing girls you would be the first to condemn that too.

i will not condemn i will eliminate it LOL.
But can you tell me why did you change your nick from nangialai to notorious ?