Muslim actress poses for Playboy to 'free herself', whats your opinions about this?

[Catya Sher]

Good point, Kakargirl !

I'm so sorry to hear that they were rude.

On the basis of these bizarre reactions, I propose that this entire
button for "points" be removed.
It's gotten ridiculous now the attacks from total weirdos.

Whether Gulalai's yesterday or any, the Karma system
has been badly abused with enemies using it to
make nice girls feed bad.

[ScimitarXEdge]

killing people seems to be a favoured solution to a lot of you guys. maybe those are the ones that need to be put in a mental ward.

Some people don't deserve life; it's people who think they do, that should be in mental wards.

[faye]

Some people don't deserve life; it's people who think they do, that should be in mental wards.

well scimitar, they are all created by allah and it says in the quaran how strong the devil is and that most if not everyone person will be tempted to break the rules.
i don't know all of what mohammad says but i believe life is not without hurdles to overcome and by overcoming them one is strengthened. evil or negativity was created for a purpose, don't you think?

[khushal]

interesting analysis; but what about roman and grecian and even ancient Babylonian socieies when promiscuity was encouraged (abortions were rampant in those societies, especially amongst prostitutes, in rome there was an ossuary in which the remains of thousands of aborted fetuses were found under a brothel)

While promiscuity is not new to society, it is for the first time a global phenomena where it is spreading like rapid fire to mass populations. Today you have the urban as well as the conservative rural populations all around the world embracing this as freedom. In America you have 30% of children born out of wedlock and no one thinks twice about it. I think the pill made this spread possible at the speed we are witnessing. The pill would extinguish the conscience humanity would have towards the children that would be the product of such practices.

[ScimitarXEdge]

well scimitar, they are all created by allah and it says in the quaran how strong the devil is and that most if not everyone person will be tempted to break the rules.
i don't know all of what mohammad says but i believe life is not without hurdles to overcome and by overcoming them one is strengthened. evil or negativity was created for a purpose, don't you think?

Absolutely; but we musn't let ourselves get carried away with nebulous ideas of pseudo-compassion. We have to look at the bigger picture.

Our Earth has existed for 6 billion or so years and through this time species have been brought in and out of existence ; the strain of the currents of the universe made or broke them; the ones who stood victorious in the cosmic storm are those who culminated in the humans we have today.

Morality functions not as some sort of "hurdle" to surpass to test your self importance on; but a regulation of the human species in respects to something much grander than us; a cosmic order. A Supreme Reality by which our merit exists by either flowing with it or against it. Those that flow against it are eroded in it's powerful waves, those flowing with it are carried to the heights of it's current.

The role of evil/darkness or whatever term you want to use is simply that; merely to separate wheat from chaff, to identify that which needs to be purged so that the moral stature of the greater whole remains in tact. And at this point there needs to be a great deal of purging.

Maybe we all deserve to die but ultimately it is for a greater honor; one that transcends us in every sense.

[ScimitarXEdge]

While promiscuity is not new to society, it is for the first time a global phenomena where it is spreading like rapid fire to mass populations. Today you have the urban as well as the conservative rural populations all around the world embracing this as freedom. In America you have 30% of children born out of wedlock and no one thinks twice about it. I think the pill made this spread possible at the speed we are witnessing. The pill would extinguish the conscience humanity would have towards the children that would be the product of such practices.

I concede ; very brilliant and sound anthropological analysis. The macrocosmic impact of globalization and the modern medium of propagation: mass media has brought brainwashing to a whole new level. 100 years ago a nude Turkish girl in Germany would have been unthinkable. but because of mass production and propagation it infiltrates and pollutes everything. Another sign of evidence that our battles are not national or confined to a region; but a global battle for salvation. It's either us or them. I choose us.

[faye]

Absolutely; but we musn't let ourselves get carried away with nebulous ideas of pseudo-compassion. We have to look at the bigger picture.

Our Earth has existed for 6 billion or so years and through this time species have been brought in and out of existence ; the strain of the currents of the universe made or broke them; the ones who stood victorious in the cosmic storm are those who culminated in the humans we have today.

Morality functions not as some sort of "hurdle" to surpass to test your self importance on; but a regulation of the human species in respects to something much grander than us; a cosmic order. A Supreme Reality by which our merit exists by either flowing with it or against it. Those that flow against it are eroded in it's powerful waves, those flowing with it are carried to the heights of it's current.

The role of evil/darkness or whatever term you want to use is simply that; merely to separate wheat from chaff, to identify that which needs to be purged so that the moral stature of the greater whole remains in tact. And at this point there needs to be a great deal of purging.

Maybe we all deserve to die but ultimately it is for a greater honor; one that transcends us in every sense.

maybe you only know of pseudo compassion as you are still young. who said anything about self importance re overcoming hurdles? to me it is part of growth as a human being not an ego enhancement.
your theory of the universe etc is your theory which you have chosen to believe. so is shooting a woman in the head for blasphemous behaviour part of this lovely 'flow'? she doesn't get a chance to repent and recieve forgiveness.
do you think mohammads love was 'pseudo compassion' too?

[ScimitarXEdge]

maybe you only know of pseudo compassion as you are still young. who said anything about self importance re overcoming hurdles? to me it is part of growth as a human being not an ego enhancement.
your theory of the universe etc is your theory which you have chosen to believe. so is shooting a woman in the head for blasphemous behaviour part of this lovely 'flow'? she doesn't get a chance to repent and recieve forgiveness.
do you think mohammads love was 'pseudo compassion' too?

I never said we shoot this person; we shoot the institutions the people who promote these ideas that promote the indoctrination to culivate these behaviors and propogate these asinine notions in the first place

the woman is a victim ....and hence should be placed where victims of mental illness are always placed. in places, medicated with the best psychotropics ...and away from the rest of us forever so that such people are forgotten and their menace no longer an issue.

and by the way Muhammad didn't always just exhibited compassion; he pick and chose his battles; I by no means we go around dealing out vigilante justice; we should use the Muhammad's stalwart. He was selective in how and when he was compassionate and wrathful, we should use that wisdom. Wait until the system is overthrown; then we can do things in a nice clean systematic way, that way nothing gets unbalanced in the process.

and moreover; this person knew what they were doing, they just spitefully chose to go against it; of course misguidedly but knowing fully it's implications. She had her chance already. Now she's guaranteed a permanence residence in the Gulags until she rots away. She brought this on herself.

So yes it's apart of this "lovely flow" if God causing people to be burned alive in Volcano eruptions are apart of the lovely flow; then this is too.

[ghundal]

this is complete filth, shamelss, and unforgiving from her families perspective. MashAllah, there is not a single soul in my family who is even remotely like this.

Trash inherited from Ataturk- the man who abolish the supreme Khilafa.

[faye]

scimitarx, put your clothes back on!

[ghundal]

well scimitar, they are all created by allah and it says in the quaran how strong the devil is and that most if not everyone person will be tempted to break the rules.
i don't know all of what mohammad says but i believe life is not without hurdles to overcome and by overcoming them one is strengthened. evil or negativity was created for a purpose, don't you think?

On the day of judgment, iblis (Shaitan, Satan) will also be present to answer questions. WHen people are heading to the hell-fire for their sins, they will say iblis made me do it to which he will say it was not him, but their own decision. Then they will be cast into the hell fire

Point made- blaming the devil is no excuse. It is heaven or hell, and Sharia law must always be upheld. There is no equal substitute.

[Catya Sher]

^ EXTREMELY VALUABLE REMINDER which should be copied out and posted on
refrigerator doors / mirrors to constantly re-read.

How often that excuse is given that the devil or a bad demon got involved and
pushed the person to do some bad deed or deeds.
It's true that did occur.
But how few remember that the fault lies with themselves.

The shifting of blame is one the biggest problems of modern society perhaps :
relieving guilt by immediate pointing to someone else as the culprit.

Probably this "turkish" woman has a whole story ready for the thousands of
Western journalists - maybe even Gayle L. of CFR ! - who will rush with
notepad in hand to hear her every pitiful remark about her life.
She will say " well it was all the fault of my parents, they did this, so naturally
I did a different thing...".

Whereupon all Westerners, brought up to think like this themselves, will nod
sagely.

In fact: the aggressive feminists have the same problem: they blame all their woes
on men, thus ignore taking responsiblity for their own bad actions.
Everything is bad because it was all the fault of "The Patriarchy"
which so cruelly oppressed them for ages.

I'm sure this girl has a similar spiel - music to the ears of Western women and
feminists everywhere - ready to launch into when she wins the
UN-noble peace prize for her contribution to enhancing
"East-West communications"

[Karachi]

west is going down because they have no control over their sexuality, whatever comes to their minds, whatever they desire sexually, they make it happen as reality. When a society has no control over their sinful desires they are bound to go down, it is already happening all around here. I really hope muslim society as whole dont fall in to this trap, i know many bad things are already happening there but lets hope islam prevails, islam is the only solution to these problems

[Karachi]

btw people calling to kill her or something shouldn't say these things, she is just one person, she is not even muslim, just because you belong to a muslim family and have a muslim name doesn't mean you are muslim

[faye]

well that must be awful to not like men caty. my dad was great, allowed me heaps of freedom and taught me to question everything. i owe him a lot. he was a very intelligent, interesting and funny man.