Muslim actress poses for Playboy to 'free herself', whats your opinions about this?

[khushal]

karachi, it is a bit late when pakistanis already have a reputation for accessing pornography on the net and i read somewhere on this forum, that porn is on the tv in afghanistan.
i am just stating what i have read.

Yes this is true. In western countries this stuff is regulated and there is an age limit of accessing porn products but in third world countries including Pakistan, the vendors just want money so they give it to anyone that's willing to give them money. You have 8 year olds watching this stuff corrupting their minds. This has been happening for decades.

[Karachi]

What is the "good" that Western society does; destroy our environment , exploit every resource until the world has none left..... impose a concrete habitat on people separating them from nature, and alienating us from our instinctual way of life ...and worst off instituting the global conditions

that FORCED your parents and my parents to have to leave their native societies because it divided up and disrupted all the natural systems of functioning people had before; hence keeping everyone dependent on Western vices such as Capitalism to operate.

Or is it all the "opportunities" they offer you to embark on manufactured surrogate activities to keep the masses pacified, dronish and mentally enslaved....which in turn are all intended to maintain the status quo. Maybe you have no idea what I'm talking about, because you haven't awakened from "the dream" yet.

the only thing positive I got from the Western society of today is that the educational resources; outside of the brainwashing program of the mainstream educational system....taught me how screwed up and pathological Western society actually is ...and how it's ruining our planet...

As for what happens in Pakistan; gee whiz, wasn't Pakistan created by the colonial Enterprise which has built up the Hegemonies of today? Who'd think Pakistan has Mujra dancers and alcohol served in Hotels just by their own invention; same goes with Afghanistan. We look at the 60's and 70's those pictures of Kabul reflect how deeply the brainwashing and colonialism really was.

I already know the generic counter responses you'd probably come up with; your ilk, being dronish and conditioned, are very predictable You'll ask me "well then why are you here...go to a country that supports your views"; even though I already highlighted hegemony is a global problem, not a local one. Or you'll evade the question entirely. whatever it is; it undermines the real issue here.

yes true, there are lot of bad things happening in pakistan and infact many muslim countries, just go to Lebenon or Syria and see how many prostitutes and night clubs there are, but we have to see where islam stands. Islam is against all these sort of things, doesn't matter where they are happening. My Problem with the west is that they promote these kinds of disgusting things and behaviors, thats why even their young daughters are doing these things. While in most muslim countries these things do happen, but they are never promoted in mainstream society, they are still hidden, this is the difference.

I think Islam is the only force that can tackle these issues on hand, all other religions have failed or just given in to these haram things. I dont know about some of you guys but I would like my children to grow up decently and islamically. Living here in the west i see that could be an issue, because the society over here is pretty much lost it

[Karachi]

See now you are assuming and speculating about what I am. If you knew Islam, you would know that is Haram. But what do you know about Islam, you only follow what suits your means. You call me an atheist just because I criticize your character of being a racist at heart and then preaching Islamic values. True Jihad is within yourself. You must improve yourself and strive to have a better character. Dont make me bring the quotes on here where you insulted all afghans and considered all afghans as enemies like here:



You are lost. I would advise you to stop posting until you have read the Qu"ran, learn from it and then come back and write something suspensful. Otherwie dont preach to us when you have a heart full of hate.

dude i am not be a perfect muslim and yes i do make mistakes but atleast i am trying, from all your posts i can see you are pretty much a secular person, thats why you think it is ok for muslims to be doing these kinds of disgusting things. Also i can bring many posts of you friends and bengali friends insulting all pakistanis, why dont you say anything about that??? talk about being hypocrite. I was only reacting to people insulting all pakistanis, yes i was wrong saying bad things about all afghans, I shouldn't have, but maybe 90% of afghans shouldn't insult all pakistanis either. If you hate, you will get hate. Thats all i have to say

[ScimitarXEdge]

To be honest, a Turkish girl posing nude in German Playboy is low priority; she's not a Muslim anyways; she's abandoned Islam a long time ago; her parents anxiety has more to do with cultural views rather than moral views.

Turkish women have posed nude in Turkey, as I pointed out Turkey used to have their own international Version of the magazine according to Wikipedia. The whole "First Muslim girl to pose for German Playboy" is a media assault on Muslims; how can a person who rejects Islam represent Muslims?

But what situations like this should cause concern of; is the affect of Western society on people; how it ruins people, psychologically damages them and robs them of their senses and intellect. Even a small issue such as this is a reminder of the Greater issues; that the impact of Western Society is damaging and detrimental to human life. If we want our problems to be resolved we have to combat it at it's source. The culture that cultivates it, itself.

[ScimitarXEdge]

Karachi; there's nothing in any of Khushal's posts that even implicate that he's "secularized" and that he thinks such things are acceptable. Slow down buddy. Comprehend what you read.

[khushal]

dude i am not be a perfect muslim and yes i do make mistakes but atleast i am trying, from all your posts i can see you are pretty much a secular person, thats why you think it is ok for muslims to be doing these kinds of disgusting things. Also i can bring many posts of you friends and bengali friends insulting all pakistanis, why dont you say anything about that??? talk about being hypocrite. I was only reacting to people insulting all pakistanis, yes i was wrong saying bad things about all afghans, I shouldn't have, but maybe 90% of afghans shouldn't insult all pakistanis either. If you hate, you will get hate. Thats all i have to say

Not only are you funny but also incompetent. I am criticizing your character, not your friends character. Your trying to avoid the point. this is the internet, 90% of afghans dont have the internet to insult Pakistani's, and the ones that do, they are only criticizing the Pakistani government policies. I don't think you have the capacity to understand what I'm saying.

Show me one post of mine that even hints that's its OK for anyone to be doing these disgusting things. Stick with the subject, don't make things up otherwise shut the hell up.

[IamDZJ]

i don't know what there is to argue against in this ever so popular thread. i am not going to waste my time by reading your posts but it's pretty obvious as to what a muslim or non muslims reaction to this woman's stupid reason for posing for a magazine that is for men's sexual pleasure could possibly be. even people with no religious obligations believe in self respect.
instead of focusing on her muslimness (which she is obviously not), simply focus on her lack of functional brain cells and put the case to a rest.

[کیش]

i don't know what there is to argue against in this ever so popular thread. i am not going to waste my time by reading your posts but it's pretty obvious as to what a muslim or non muslims reaction to this woman's stupid reason for posing for a magazine that is for men's sexual pleasure could possibly be. even people with no religious obligations believe in self respect.
instead of focusing on her muslimness (which she is obviously not), simply focus on her lack of functional brain cells and put the case to a rest.

Your amazing.

[Notorious Pashtana]

I already know the generic counter responses you'd probably come up with

why bother asking me a question if you seem to know my answer? you got one thing right though, i "will" evade your question.

[Karachi]

Not only are you funny but also incompetent. I am criticizing your character, not your friends character. Your trying to avoid the point. this is the internet, 90% of afghans dont have the internet to insult Pakistani's, and the ones that do, they are only criticizing the Pakistani government policies. I don't think you have the capacity to understand what I'm saying.

Show me one post of mine that even hints that's its OK for anyone to be doing these disgusting things. Stick with the subject, don't make things up otherwise shut the hell up.

what is my character? am i racist? what about the so many afghans on this forum that call pakistanis dhalkhor and many other racist insults on daily basis, they are not critising the government, they are being racist against the people, open your eyes, you never say a word against them, so who is the hypocrite?

Also my point stands, islam is the only force that can tackle these digusting things, i dont really care what you believe

[faye]

from what i have read about mohammad, he was very generous with forgiveness. i thought it was up to allah to make the judgements and that a muslim could ask for forgiveness.
is it automatic that when a muslim sins, that they are not a muslim anymore?

[IamDZJ]

you cant sin away in the morning and ask forgiveness every night. asking for forgiveness requires that you mean repenting and understand what forgiveness means. if a human being cant accept your apology otherwise then why should God.

[kakargirl]

from what i have read about mohammad, he was very generous with forgiveness. i thought it was up to allah to make the judgements and that a muslim could ask for forgiveness.
is it automatic that when a muslim sins, that they are not a muslim anymore?

faye good question, but the guides have been sent quran talks about every single thing to guide us ,we have so much literature, after a person on purpose does an act ,after knowing whole heartedly that this is against religion and what allah swt has forbidden, and a human still does it, thats the act of a devil, there is no forgivness for that, and if you repent once and you did something in weakness or did not know your repentance is there, but if you commit same act again and again then the repentance is invalid.

[kakargirl]

She ain't even pretty, whats all the fuss. its not as if anyone is gonna look at her.

i agree with you wror, who's going to look.

[faye]

sorry, i thought you were supposed to pray for those that sin instead of damning them to fire and brimstone.