World's oldest civilizations

[Karachi]

Indus valley, Mesopotamia and Ancient Egypt.
These 3 could be considered the oldest Civilizations, though ofcourse there are some more like China.




Mohenjo daro, Indus valley, Pakistan


Babylon, Iraq, Mesopotamia


Ancient Egypt:

[Karachi]

Recently in Iran there has been huge evidence that Indus valley people had a lot of contact and links with Mesopotamia:

For example, ancient iranian citles like Elam, Jiroft, Shahdad, Shahr-e Sukhteh, Sialk and other civilizations in the Iranian plateau.

Shahr-e Sukhteh, you can read in Unesco website:

http://whc.unesco.org/en/tentativelists/5185/

Covering some 120 Hectares and located along the Zabol-Zahedan Highway, the historic site of Shahr-e Sukhte is the most important prehistoric city of the 3rd millennium BC and a key location for Iranian prehistoric studies, particularly concerning the southeastern region, and a connection point between Near Eastern civilization and that of the Indus valley. The findings of the archaeological excavations and researches as well as laboratory studies, have provided ample data about third-millennium BC civilization in Iran and the country's prehistory in general.

Comparison with other similar properties

Mohenjo-Daro and Harappa sites in Pakistan and other Iranian archaeological sites of the third and second millennia BC such as Tape Shahdad and Susa.

also there was a article few years ago that put the cradle of civilization from Indus valley in the east to Mesopotamia in the west, so that would inlude modern countries of Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan area. It would be nice to dig in the past and see how much contact they had and how much deep connection they had in things like culture or religion.

[Karachi]

this is one of the ancient citiy in iran:



this city was a connecting point between the people of indus and mesopotamia. Notice the this city has similar pattern to indus cities

[KhyberKhan]

Where's the pics of Atlantis?

[Karachi]

There is some recent evidence that persian gulf might have the oldest civilization to date, under it:

Theory Points to Civilization Under Persian Gulf


Dec. 11) -- The waters of the Persian Gulf may be hiding a lost civilization that could change our understanding of human history, according to new research.

This huge fertile stretch of land may have been home to humans from about 74,000 years ago until about 8,000 years ago, according to Discovery News.

When the waters around them began to rise, these early humans may have migrated to what is now the gulf shoreline, founding new settlements there, according to a paper published in the December issue of Current Anthropology.

Over the past several years, archaeologists have uncovered new evidence of those shoreline settlements.

"Where before there had been but a handful of scattered hunting camps, suddenly, over 60 new archaeological sites appear virtually overnight," Jeffrey Rose of the University of Birmingham said, according to LiveScience.

"These settlements boast well-built, permanent stone houses, long-distance trade networks, elaborately decorated pottery, domesticated animals, and even evidence for one of the oldest boats in the world," Rose said.

Rose says such sophisticated settlements couldn't have developed so quickly, which is why he believes even older settlements lie beneath gulf waters. If true, Rose's hypothesis could offer a clue as to how and when human beings first departed Africa and settled in the Middle East.

This has long been a topic for debate, with some scientists saying that humans made the migration 125,000 years ago, while others put it closer to 60,000 years ago, LiveScience said.

The now-submerged slice of land would have been about the size of Great Britain, Rose said.

Since it would have received water from the rivers Tigris, Euphrates, Karun and Wadi Baton, it would have offered a fertile refuge from the nearby harsh deserts.

"I think Jeff's theory is bold and imaginative, and hopefully will shake things up," Oxford Brookes University's Robert Carter told LiveScience.

"It would completely rewrite our understanding of the out-of-Africa migration. It is far from proven, but Jeff and others will be developing research programs to test the theory," Carter said.

Rose admits that much work remains be done. So far, he has focused on archaeological sites on dry land and studies of geological history.

Finding some physical evidence beneath the waves of the ocean would be a major advance in proving that his theory is correct.



"We would need to find a submerged site, and excavate it underwater," Rose said, according to LiveScience. "This would likely only happen as the culmination of years of survey in carefully selected areas."

The waters of the Persian Gulf rose 8,000 years ago, perhaps because of the collapse of a huge glacial dam in Canada, according to Postmedia News.

This event caused water levels to rise across the world. This catastrophic event may have forced humans out of the Gulf basin and given rise to ancient stories such as that of Noah's Ark.

"Certainly, I think there is compelling evidence to suggest that both the flood and Eden myths may be rooted in these events around the Gulf basin," Rose said, according to Discovery News



http://www.aolnews.com/science/artic...-east/19756748



This could be the oldest civilization ever found, Atlantis perhaps???

[KhyberKhan]

I was joking by the way

[graveyardofempires]

interesting

[Nokia_Apridy]

da TERAWALo..............Sher khana...

[Karachi]

So which civilization is the most oldest ?

They roughly existed around the same time around 4000-6000 years ago, thats why they had so much trade between them, but I think mesopotamia might have started first. However if we include mehrgarh below which is considred the earliest indus settlment, this is almost 9000 years old

[Karachi]

^ also Jirof civilization in eastern Iran is really old, at 8000-9000 years old. All theories are pointing out that the oldest civilization might have started somewhere between what is Iraq now and Pakistan now, so this includes countries today which are Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan and Pakistan

[sgulab]

omg I LOVE this kinda stuff!

[IamDZJ]

Archeaology is fascinating indeed.

[Karachi]

Interesting documentary on indus valley:

2006 - The Indus Valley Civilisation (The Masters of the River) of India/Pakistan - YouTube

[Kushan Prince]

Now now everyone know's the oldest civilization was Mesopotamia in present day Iraq. After all that is where the prophet Adam came from.