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    Abdul Haye, the self-styled Colonel Sanders of New York’s Afghan community, has declared a fried chicken war.
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    Ruth Fremson/The New York Times

    Abdul Haye, owner of the Kennedy Fried Chicken trademark.

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    Ruth Fremson/The New York Times

    At a Kennedy store in the Bronx, the sauce comes from an unwritten secret recipe.

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    Ruth Fremson/The New York Times

    The Kennedy Fried Chicken in Corona is one of an estimated 350 Afghan-owned chicken restaurants in New York City.


    He has armed himself with an unwritten secret recipe that he claims allows him to fry the best bird in town. His main weapon, he says, is ownership of the trademark for the Kennedy Fried Chicken brand, which has spawned hundreds of imitators as far south as Georgia, and has become to oily drumsticks what the ubiquitous Ray’s name once was to New York pizza.
    That Kennedy, named after the former president, was itself a deliberate imitation of Kentucky Fried Chicken, down to those familiar initials — and that it had its own trademark battle a generation ago — seems to make little difference to Mr. Haye, 38. A wired and wiry resident of Whitestone, Queens, he began working as a chicken fryer when he was 17, soon after he immigrated in 1989, and describes his rivals with ire similar to that he reserves for the Taliban.
    “I’m declaring war against all the Afghans in New York who have stolen my name and my idea,” Mr. Haye said the other day at one of his five chicken outlets, showing off the trademark certificate that the United States Patent and Trademark Office in Washington had awarded him in 2005. He waved a thick stack of some of the 300 registered letters he began to mail last week to Kennedy outlets across the country, insisting that they pay him a monthly franchise fee, or face legal action. “Their poor-quality chicken is going to kill my reputation,” Mr. Haye complained. “I am the only real Kennedy!”
    While lamb is a protein of choice in Mr. Haye’s homeland, two generations of Afghans in America have found a lifeline in the humble chicken. Those in the industry say there are some 350 Afghan-owned chicken stores across the five boroughs employing thousands of Afghan-Americans. Plates of battered breasts — all halal, to be sure — are served at local mosques after Friday prayers, and short-order cooks stash prayer mats next to the freezers. Fried chicken has put children through college, financed elaborate weddings, provided work for newly arrived refugees and put food on the table for relatives back in Kabul.
    But the fast-food world can seem as tribal as Afghanistan itself, and Mr. Haye’s crusade threatens to unravel the fragile harmony in the fried chicken fraternity.
    “We won’t pay a penny,” huffed Nour Abdullah, the manager of Kennedy Fried Chicken on Junction Boulevard in Corona, Queens, which seems indistinguishable from Mr. Haye’s except for the fried shrimp balls and gyros on the menu. “I can rename the shop Munir Fried Chicken after my son or even New Kennedy Fried Chicken. Then let’s see what he’s going to do.”
    A few doors down, Najib Ullah, a chicken fryer from Kabul, was equally defiant. “Anyone can own a Kennedy, and I’ve never heard of this Abdul Haye,” he said. “Every place has a different owner: same chicken, different menu. So what’s the problem?”
    One recent Friday at Hazrat-I-Abubakr Sadiq, a predominantly Afghan mosque in Flushing, Queens, the consensus among the congregants was that Mr. Haye may have the law on his side, but Afghan intransigence, conditioned during decades of war and occupation, was firmly stacked against him.
    Mohammad Sherzad, the avuncular imam, said that Allah provided enough chicken to go around. The Koran, he noted, gives its blessing to Muslims eating chicken, as long as it is slaughtered in accordance with Islamic dietary laws.
    According to local lore, Zia Taeb, who came to New York from Kabul in 1972, opened the first Kennedy Fried Chicken three years later on Nostrand Avenue in the Flatbush section of Brooklyn. The outlet and its red-and-white logo, which many confused with Kentucky Fried Chicken, quickly prospered, helping him earn the nickname Zia Morgh, or “Zia Chicken” in Dari, a language spoken in Afghanistan. It also attracted the notice of Kentucky Fried Chicken, which sued Kennedy for trademark infringement in 1990 in a New York federal court — and won — before changing its name to KFC the next year, which muted the dispute. “I didn’t speak much English then, but it was easy to see that you could make money,” Mr. Taeb said, recalling his first days in New York. “The price of chicken was inexpensive and stable, and anyone could work behind the counter.”
    The same way Korean bodegas, Greek diners and Indian-owned gas stations exploded, Mr. Taeb’s foray into the chicken business had a ripple effect: Afghan immigrants who worked at his six Kennedy outlets soon opened up their own outposts with names like Crown Fried Chicken, Royal Fried Chicken and Mamma’s Fried Chicken. Or, Kennedy copycats: a quarter-century later, more than 200 such places, in nine states and Canada and England, are listed on kennedyfriedchicken.com.
    Reached by phone in San Diego, where he has long since retired from the chicken business, Mr. Taeb, who now exports precious stones to China, said he had chosen the Kennedy name “because Afghans are fond of the former president.” And he insisted that he — not Mr. Haye — was the rightful owner of the Kennedy brand. “He won’t win because I know my people, and Afghans will never pay him,” he said. “I will go after him.”
    Mr. Haye, who bought his first fried chicken place after a seven-month apprenticeship at a Kennedy outlet in Queens, conceded that Zia Morgh was a poultry pioneer. But he sees himself as the reigning chicken king.
    Mr. Haye said he first started using the Kennedy Fried Chicken name in 1994, though he waited nearly 10 years to apply for a trademark. Mr. Haye said he also changed the logo on his Kennedy stores from red to blue in the 1990s to avoid antagonizing KFC and its army of lawyers.
    Jennifer Rankin Byrne, a spokeswoman for the trademark office, declined to comment on the Kennedy case specifically, but said a federal trademark registration for restaurant services “established a legal presumption that the registration owner has the exclusive right to use the mark nationwide.”
    According to the patent office’s database, there have been five other trademark applications for the Kennedy name since 1991, each of which was either denied or abandoned. Rick Maynard, a spokesman for KFC, acknowledged that the company had inspired imitators across the world and said it was continuing to “vigorously protect” its trademark. Mr. Haye insists he will do the same. But even armed with his trademark certificate, which he keeps in a safe deposit box, he conceded it would take a skilled warrior to regain control of the Kennedy Fried Chicken brand.
    Though he dreams of identically outfitted Kennedy outlets, with marble counters from Mecca, servers in crisp red uniforms, and chicken spiced with the secret sauce made by a cook in the Bronx (hint: copious amounts of gray pepper and garlic), he said he knew he would have to contend with willful rivals, too-close-for-comfort name adjustments, and Kennedy Fried Chicken joints that sell pizza egg rolls.
    Hunched over a plate of lamb chops at his favorite Afghan restaurant in Queens, he shook his head and sighed: “You know, Afghans don’t even like eating fried chicken.”
    Even Adobe Photoshop can't change me.

    A line[Durrand line] of hatred that raised a wall between the two brothers -Hamid Karzai

    For generations, the Hindus of India prayed for deliverance from "the venom of the cobra, the teeth of the tiger and the vengeance of the Afghan."


    The men of Kábul and Khilj also went home; and whenever they were questioned about the Musulmáns of the Kohistán (the mountains), and how matters stood there, they said, "Don't call it Kohistán, but Afghánistán; for there is nothing there but Afgháns and disturbances." Thus it is clear that for this reason the people of the country call their home in their own language Afghánistán, and themselves Afgháns. The people of India call them Patán; but the reason for this is not known. But it occurs to me, that when, under the rule of Muhammadan sovereigns, Musulmáns first came to the city of Patná, and dwelt there, the people of India (for that reason) called them Patáns—but God knows!

    -Ferishta, 1560–1620

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    my uncle owns about 8 fast food resturants in new york also so going to ask him about this, manana admin khana.
    Ka Makh De Rana Hear Sho No Jehan Ba Rana Hear She
    Ka Nom De Rana Hear Sho No Khpal Zan Ba Rana Her She[

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    • #3
      Originally posted by sahil112 View Post
      my uncle owns about 8 fast food resturants in new york also so going to ask him about this, manana admin khana.
      It's the new rising Afghan American[Kandaharis]who have begun this nonsense named "Chicken war". The older generation Afghans have for the most part retired, and they barely care.
      Even Adobe Photoshop can't change me.

      A line[Durrand line] of hatred that raised a wall between the two brothers -Hamid Karzai

      For generations, the Hindus of India prayed for deliverance from "the venom of the cobra, the teeth of the tiger and the vengeance of the Afghan."


      The men of Kábul and Khilj also went home; and whenever they were questioned about the Musulmáns of the Kohistán (the mountains), and how matters stood there, they said, "Don't call it Kohistán, but Afghánistán; for there is nothing there but Afgháns and disturbances." Thus it is clear that for this reason the people of the country call their home in their own language Afghánistán, and themselves Afgháns. The people of India call them Patán; but the reason for this is not known. But it occurs to me, that when, under the rule of Muhammadan sovereigns, Musulmáns first came to the city of Patná, and dwelt there, the people of India (for that reason) called them Patáns—but God knows!

      -Ferishta, 1560–1620

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      • #4
        lol interesting. i would love to know what comes out of this. I think this man Mr. Haye has a case!

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Admin Khan View Post
          It's the new rising Afghan American[Kandaharis]who have begun this nonsense named "Chicken war". The older generation Afghans have for the most part retired, and they barely care.
          i no, my cuzans who could of gone uni didnt and instead started running these shops!
          Ka Makh De Rana Hear Sho No Jehan Ba Rana Hear She
          Ka Nom De Rana Hear Sho No Khpal Zan Ba Rana Her She[

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Feroza_Banu View Post
            lol interesting. i would love to know what comes out of this. I think this man Mr. Haye has a case!
            I think it's a shame Feroza. There are thousands of young Kandaharis here who choose "opening a chicken shop" over attending University. I really hope our future generation of Afghans make their decisions more wisely. Chicken was great for the Afghan immigrants who arrived in New York 5 decades ago. But for the new rising Afghan Americans, they need to focus more on Science and Technology. I mean, Chicken is also great but they should at least gain a BBA if they have a keen interest in managing restaurants.
            Even Adobe Photoshop can't change me.

            A line[Durrand line] of hatred that raised a wall between the two brothers -Hamid Karzai

            For generations, the Hindus of India prayed for deliverance from "the venom of the cobra, the teeth of the tiger and the vengeance of the Afghan."


            The men of Kábul and Khilj also went home; and whenever they were questioned about the Musulmáns of the Kohistán (the mountains), and how matters stood there, they said, "Don't call it Kohistán, but Afghánistán; for there is nothing there but Afgháns and disturbances." Thus it is clear that for this reason the people of the country call their home in their own language Afghánistán, and themselves Afgháns. The people of India call them Patán; but the reason for this is not known. But it occurs to me, that when, under the rule of Muhammadan sovereigns, Musulmáns first came to the city of Patná, and dwelt there, the people of India (for that reason) called them Patáns—but God knows!

            -Ferishta, 1560–1620

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Admin Khan View Post
              I think it's a shame Feroza. There are thousands of young Kandaharis here who choose "opening a chicken shop" over attending University. I really hope our future generation of Afghans make their decisions more wisely. Chicken was great for the Afghan immigrants who arrived in New York 5 decades ago. But for the new rising Afghan Americans, they need to focus more on Science and Technology. I mean, Chicken is also great but they should at least gain a BBA if they have a keen interest in managing restaurants.
              I agree with you a 100%, but that is the sad part of our community. Its the same case in california, not that we have a chicken restaurant craze here, but in here up until a few years ago, it was the mortgage business. every other "khala's" son was in mortgage and that right after high school.

              the down side, as we all know, the mortgage industry collapsed and so did half of afghan community's income. it was a mess and still is. i saw family breaking, homes getting forclosed, people loosing their cars and their assets. those well to do, rich afghan families were hit the most, because most of them worked in mortgage...

              money replaces education for Afghans..

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Admin Khan View Post
                I think it's a shame Feroza. There are thousands of young Kandaharis here who choose "opening a chicken shop" over attending University. I really hope our future generation of Afghans make their decisions more wisely. Chicken was great for the Afghan immigrants who arrived in New York 5 decades ago. But for the new rising Afghan Americans, they need to focus more on Science and Technology. I mean, Chicken is also great but they should at least gain a BBA if they have a keen interest in managing restaurants.
                the ones in london are not doing that bad to be honest wrora, most of them are into engineering or computer science, i would say about 70-80 percent are into computer science and i no a couple who even work for microsoft and google. only thing a lot of us arent into is being a doctor, we dont see many who want to go into that career path. my brother inshallah does though he wants to become a neuro surgeon he said so inshallah he will but my other 2 brothers again computer science.
                Ka Makh De Rana Hear Sho No Jehan Ba Rana Hear She
                Ka Nom De Rana Hear Sho No Khpal Zan Ba Rana Her She[

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                • #9
                  We used to own a Kennedy Fried Chicken in Corona. Before a stupid Bengali opened one up, literally down the block. We sold it for a lose.

                  This dude a clown, the Taebs, created Kennedy Fried Chicken. My cousin is married to a Taeb. Though their not Pashtuns, and cheaper then any Jew.

                  Admin Khan
                  After high school I was also one of the Afghans, who chose to work in My dads fried chicken store in Corona, Queens. We were one of the first to introduce Chicken with Rich W/ a new sauce (White sauce) for $5.00
                  Last edited by کیش; 02-14-2011, 12:52 PM.

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                  • #10
                    Very interesting....always wondered who opened the first KFC lol

                    Totally agree with admin khan - it's pretty sad how the new generation would prefer to open chicken shops rather than have a degree. Is it the laziness or is it the money?
                    I desire that which is Just - House of Dukemina.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Dukemina View Post
                      Very interesting....always wondered who opened the first KFC lol

                      Totally agree with admin khan - it's pretty sad how the new generation would prefer to open chicken shops rather than have a degree. Is it the laziness or is it the money?
                      i would highly doubt its lazyness, my cuzan tell me after they come home from work all they want to do is sleep as they have been on thier feet all day.
                      i also dont think it would be the money but then again its america so yh.
                      Ka Makh De Rana Hear Sho No Jehan Ba Rana Hear She
                      Ka Nom De Rana Hear Sho No Khpal Zan Ba Rana Her She[

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Dukemina View Post

                        Totally agree with admin khan - it's pretty sad how the new generation would prefer to open chicken shops rather than have a degree. Is it the laziness or is it the money?
                        it's far more practical, the US tertiary education system isn't exactly designed to be easy on the wallet either.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by jj1990 View Post
                          it's far more practical, the US tertiary education system isn't exactly designed to be easy on the wallet either.
                          Depends on where you live. People get paid to attend Public Universities for the most part in NYC.
                          Even Adobe Photoshop can't change me.

                          A line[Durrand line] of hatred that raised a wall between the two brothers -Hamid Karzai

                          For generations, the Hindus of India prayed for deliverance from "the venom of the cobra, the teeth of the tiger and the vengeance of the Afghan."


                          The men of Kábul and Khilj also went home; and whenever they were questioned about the Musulmáns of the Kohistán (the mountains), and how matters stood there, they said, "Don't call it Kohistán, but Afghánistán; for there is nothing there but Afgháns and disturbances." Thus it is clear that for this reason the people of the country call their home in their own language Afghánistán, and themselves Afgháns. The people of India call them Patán; but the reason for this is not known. But it occurs to me, that when, under the rule of Muhammadan sovereigns, Musulmáns first came to the city of Patná, and dwelt there, the people of India (for that reason) called them Patáns—but God knows!

                          -Ferishta, 1560–1620

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