Jews posing as fake Al-Qaida..EXPOSED!

[Manzareh]

Jewsss...always got ther nose in something!!

YouTube - Fake Al Qaeda Actors EXPOSED! Adam Gadahn & Yousef al-Khattab

[KhyberKhan]

So let me get this straight, does this mean we should not trust anyone with a Jewish past?

[Catya Sher]

As I said earlier about this revealing, excellent video,
there ARE some American Jews who are drawn to Islam
and convert.

I met one. He's very sincere.

But one joining any group like this which is already
considered to be partly controlled by Mossad or branches of that
should be regarded with immense suspicion.

I'm glad they exposed this because it will stop more of these actors
from wasting the world's time with pre-programmed messages
from Israeli agencies and various collaborators.

[KhyberKhan]

How is Al Qaeda controlled by mossad?

[Catya Sher]

I believe that Mossad had some hand in furthering Al-Qaeda.
No one can say obviously for sure, for we weren't there

This is what I mean about the CIA using Mossad expertise in
the Arab world. The CIA doesn't know what it's doing, honestly.
But Mossad has Arabic speaking agents or Arabs who have agreed to work for it.

Mossad recruits aggressively for these.

So who can provide all background to make something like Al-Qaeda look fearsome ? It's Mossad.

But even they don't do a good job.

There have such completely fake Osama videos created with some of Mossad's actors and perhaps backdrop fixed up, that it's clear these are not true
Osama bin Laden tapes/videos.

I hardly know all the details.
But I know the general pattern. The Israelis are closest in these decades with
the Pentagon. Why? Because all their agents of influence have been appointed to high positions there. Likewise various advisers, National Security Council
types, etc. These are all part of the same network.

Some are so obviously loyal to Tel Aviv FIRST over America that they have Israeli citizenship yet occupy roles in American govt.

So the intertwining is tight, and led to the Iraq war, this Afghan war, the eternal confrontation with Iran which mysteriously never gets resolved despite many offers from the Iranian side and much else of US foreign policy.

I'm not saying Al Qaeda is COMPLETELY a Mossad operation. No one can discern this from far away

But let's say it got some boost along the way from Mossad, working as a partner or subcontractor for various elements in power circles in the US.

[faye]

just after 9/11, i saw an interview with osama bin laden, where he denied involvement in the attack. there is a full interview on '911 review.com.' i always found other clips of osama suspicious after that. if he organised it why would he not lay claim to it?

[Catya Sher]

Right, faye.

Further, the common man in the Middle East asserted "Osama bin Laden could NEVER have done THAT" - using their God-given intelligence.

Why does every single clip in the video brainwash the audience to believe that
Osama is SO ULTRA-ORGANIZED, ULTRA-CAPABLE, with tentacles reaching
much farther than the world had realized ?

Because obviously there was a big chasm of doubt to allay that some guy no matter who he was or how wealthy could do such a huge operation.

If you read about the airports, too, that day, the operatives "mysteriously" got through all the checkpoints, when some were highly suspicious.

Just a big cover-up.

As has been said here other places, the "hijackers" were NOT Islamic at all.
They were fakers. Not Fakirs.

[faye]

if you have read about pnac, 'project for the new american century' and it's involvement in the attacks against iraq and afghanistan, someone involved with them said, we need a new pearl harbour to get the ball rolling-or words to that effect'
i am reading an article about a book 'wall street and the rise of hitler' showing how these groups make money out of these wars. very interesting but depressing too, as they have so much power.

[Catya Sher]

Back for a moment to Khyber Khan's earlier question, I happened upon this article which is from 2006 but taps into this very question of how Al-Qaeda benefits Israel.
There are some perhaps useful insights here, though I have no idea who the author is.

Also mentions the same global elite group of which faye is speaking, I assume--


Phantom al-Zarqawi Targets Hamas
Kurt Nimmo

April 06th 2006


Now that Iraq is well on the way to chaos and destruction, commonly referred to as a "civil war" in the corporate media, the services of the boogieman and phantom terrorist Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, successful in tainting the Iraq resistance as blood-thristy butchers, are no longer required. "

According to Huthayfah Azzam, the son of Abdullah Azzam, al Zarqawi’s former mentor, the notorious commander of al Qaida in Iraq was stripped of his political duties at a meeting two weeks ago," reports the Telegraph of Calcutta, India. "The claims could not be confirmed, but they did add to mounting evidence that al Zarqawi has been increasingly isolated over the past months because of his ruthless tactics."

Of course, it is not that such tactics are no longer of use, it is simply that such tactics are needed elsewhere—for instance, the West Bank and Gaza Strip of Palestine, where a democratically elected representative of the Palestinian people, Hamas, needs to be cut down to size.

According to the Israeli propaganda unit DEBKAfile, "Abu Musab al Zarqawi’s Gaza cell is gearing up for a major terrorist attack against" Hamas. "Zarqawi’s agents from Jordan and Egypt are positioning operational cells on the West Bank too, ready for strikes against both Israel and the Hamas-ruled Palestinian Authority." Since Palestinians continue to struggle against Israeli occupation and remain undeterred in their long-standing effort to establish a state, they must now be excised from the loop.

"Zarqawi no longer relies on local Palestinian groups for strikes in Israel and Palestinian areas. He is deploying terrorist manpower from Iraq. Syria, and Jordan, who enter Gaza freely through the Rafah crossing, with Egyptian border officials turning a blind eye." Since the Rafah crossing is essentially the main gateway for the open-air prison known as the Gaza Strip, it makes sense for the Israelis to claim it is basically a turnstile for terrorists, especially in the wake of much ado about the crossing made by "Special Envoy for Gaza Disengagement for the Quartet on the Middle East" James Wolfensohn, the former president of the neolib loan sharking operation, the World Bank, now run by the Straussian neocon Paul Wolfowitz. Israel is not interested in a foursome of nations and international entities (i.e., the neoliberal global elite) brokering "peace" between Israel and the Palestinians and have consistently worked to subvert any progress made by the so-called "Quartet."
DEBKAfile believes "Al Qaeda now targets Hamas and Abu Mazen equally.

Since taking office, Hamas is perceived as weak for shelving its war option against Israel in favor of an informal truce," in other words, the fact Hamas omitted its call for the destruction of Israel from its election manifesto is regarded as a threat, as the Islamic boogieman, a onetime asset of Israel and a stepchild of the British and U.S. intelligence penetrated Muslim Brotherhood, now has considerably fewer sharp teeth and may be regarded a bona fide political orgnaization representing the Palestinian people. Thus the CIA-ISI Frankenstein "al-Qaeda" must be dispatched to the Occupied Territories.

Mahmoud Abbas, chairman of the Palestinian Authority, is following the Israeli playbook closely. "We have indications about the presence of al Qaeda in Gaza and the West Bank. This is intelligence information. We have not yet reached the point of arrests," Abbas told the London-based al-Hayat newspaper early last month.

"If al Qaeda carried out a massive attack, it would steal the limelight from Hamas and provoke an Israeli response," Dr. Yoram Kahati of the International Policy Institute on Counter-Terrorism and the Intelligence and Terrorism Information Center told CNS News.

A few days later, according to WorldNetDaily, "a pamphlet distributed in the Gaza Strip" supposedly revealed "Iraq leader Abu Musab Zarqawi will soon reveal himself in the Palestinian territories and orchestrate local and global jihad from the area," a claim now amplified by DEBKAfile. "Is there now among us a person like Saladin, like Sheik Osama bin Laden, like Abu Musab Zarqawi? The answer is yes. We have this man and he will appear with the help of Allah very soon on the land of Palestine," said the pamphlet issued by the Jaish al-Jihad, or Army of Jihad. Moreover, the tract declared "we will fight all the corrupted and unbelieving politicians. It will be a great war for the purity of the land of Islam and Palestine," Yedioth Internet reported last month.

"Mideast watchers warned against overstating the al-Qaida presence because the issue is easily manipulated for political ends," the Associated Press reported on March 22. "Israel has a lot to gain by portraying its local conflict with the Palestinians as part of the global war on terror, and Abbas, badly damaged by the recent political rise of Hamas militants, wants 'to show that he is needed by the West,’ said Israeli security analyst Dan Schueftan."

Indeed, Israel attempted to exploit the phantom "al-Qaeda" in late 2002. "Palestinian security forces have arrested a group of Palestinians for collaborating with Israel and posing as operatives of Osama bin Laden’s al-Qaeda terrorist network," the Sydney Morning Herald reported. "The hardline Israeli leader [the now comatose Ariel Sharon] … charged other members of the terror group were cooperating with Lebanon’s Shi’ite militia Hizbollah," and thus Iran, accused of collaborating with "al-Qaeda," according to the nine eleven whitewash commission and the Straussian neocons, blood brothers of and co-conspirators with the Jabotinsky Israelis, now considered "centrists" belonging to the Kadima party.

According to the late British MP Robin Cook, "Bin Laden [and al-Qaeda] was … a product of a monumental miscalculation by western security agencies…. Inexplicably, and with disastrous consequences, it never appears to have occurred to Washington that once Russia was out of the way [in Afghanistan], Bin Laden’s organisation would turn its attention to the west."

In fact, "al-Qaeda" was a product of monumental intelligence agency calculation and it was methodically unleashed in the Middle East, Bosnia, Kosovo, Chechnya, Indonesia, and now Palestine "for political ends."
It makes perfect sense for Israel to expand on the CIA-ISI "al-Qaeda" contrivance, so effective in scaring the pants off somnolent Americans.

Israel has a long and sordid history of false flag terrorism, most notably the Lavon Affair in 1954 when Israeli operatives planted bombs in a United States diplomatic facility in Egypt (and planned to blame it one Arabs) to attacking the U.S.S. Liberty (and attempt to blame it on Arabs) to fooling the United States into believing Libya was responsible for killing U.S. soldiers in Germany (resulting in Reagan bombing Libya, killing civilians, including Khadaffi’s daughter).

[faye]

i found this interesting. i read on 'the intel hub' "wikileaks-cognitive infiltration", claiming that wikileaks has not revealed anything that has harmed u.s., england or israel, so far. the author is speculating that assange is being used by cia to just do controlled leaks to lead people astray. after reading this i then saw that there has been some new papers leaked revealing israel and palestine government dealings. this is not from wikileaks but makes me now more dubios and analytical on these 'so called' leaks.

[faye]

wall st and the rise of hitler is on the net.

[afghan]

So let me get this straight, does this mean we should not trust anyone with a Jewish past?

i guess here is the same case as india is creating the taliban against pakies, the same way isreal is creating the alqaeda. seems very easy to turn the things around the way we want it.

[graveyardofempires]

and these posers are always heard talking abotu killing innocent civilians

[KhyberKhan]

I believe that Mossad had some hand in furthering Al-Qaeda.
No one can say obviously for sure, for we weren't there

Well then! How wonderful! Since Catya believes it - let's write it in the scrolls of history, shall we? Oh wait, you're not so sure... as you "weren't there". So, what's to stop you doubting the apple dropping on Newtons head?

How about we end your game of *speculation* right here and play a different one. If you cite any evidence to the effect that Mossad actually has anything to do with AQ let alone "furthering" it (whatever that means, Btw, you'll have more chance convincing me that pigs are flying outside my window), then you'll have a logically-premised foundation upon which to proceed to a conclusion. Otherwise, you're trying to sell me hot-air and I'm not buying, Ma'am.

This is what I mean about the CIA using Mossad expertise in
the Arab world. The CIA doesn't know what it's doing, honestly.
But Mossad has Arabic speaking agents or Arabs who have agreed to work for it.

Mossad recruits aggressively for these.

So who can provide all background to make something like Al-Qaeda look fearsome ? It's Mossad.

But even they don't do a good job.

Let’s peel back the layers of stupid in that statement. Again, avoiding your groundless, baseless and unsupportive conjecture and putting aside your imaginative Hollywood-esque script for a spy movie for a second, why on earth have the CIA been practically chasing AQ for the last 11 years from across the arctic wilderness of Siberia to and blazing wastelands of Nigeria to dunk them in buckets of water repeatedly till they squeal? Or have you not factored this little gem of a fact into your fairytale?

BREAKING NEWS: Nearly every frikkin' intelligence agency has arabic speakers, from MI6 to the NSS of Armenia. You'd have to have a head full of stone not to. The arabic speakers are sometimes even non-arabs, heck, there's even red-headed, freckle-faced, English women who have a fluent command of Pashto that work for the security agencies.

I hardly know all the details.

Famous last words.

[KhyberKhan]

Back for a moment to Khyber Khan's earlier question, I happened upon this article which is from 2006 but taps into this very question of how Al-Qaeda benefits Israel.
There are some perhaps useful insights here, though I have no idea who the author is.

That article, which has quotes from WorldNetDaily (say no more)...tells me how Israeli spin-doctors are weaving their agit-prop.

Try again.